Rip - Pat - Ben

Hello all, I hesitate to write about this bc it is so sad, but it is part of what we are all going through. My son lost two of his friends from home in the past two weeks. first was OD, second was suicide.

Really sweet guys. very very sad. So sad for all they left behind. so many who loved them and are lost and heart broken.

My son is home for a few weeks. has been mostly with his best friend's girl friend, helping her get thru the days. My son's 27 birthday was 2 wks ago. I know that was a turning point for him. that he wanted to stop the addiction behavior and live a better life. the first death he did not tell us about, he did not come home for. My husband and I were on vacation. guess he did not want to tell us bad news. Then, a week ago, his best friend.

my son says he is not talking any drugs, and we believe him. but theres always a wonder.... if not now, will there be a next time... my husband believe him and he is the biggest skeptic.


NY--

So sad to hear about the loss of 2 lives that could have been a different outcome. I am praying your son sees the light and this would be a turning point for him.

Is he still working? Is he in a program?? Hopefully he is. because without that he probably won't succeed. Try to let him make choices and find solutions to his problems. I know the "food thing" is tough for us moms .cause we can't stand to see them hungry, but it is still coming to his rescue and keeping him from moving forward and providing for his own basic needs.

Stay strong and don't enable him anymore. I am praying for you and your son! Hopefully he is being truthful ,as I know that is all us parents ever want to hear --"mom-- I am sober and working a program to be free of this addiction".

(((HUGS))) Lori
NY - I'm sorry for the loss of Pat and Ben. Deaths such as these young men always seem to hit incredibly close to home. I hope that if your son was on the fence that he would take these deaths as a wake up call. Your son is the same age as my younger son is now, and the age that my oldest boy was when he died.

I hope that things are going well for you and your family. I hope your son has turned the corner and is ready to commit to sobriety.
Not being such a skeptic here. But my son had friends OD and die in front of him. YOU would think he would of change. He always said the right words, right things, convince us it's what he wanted. Out of the drug scene. A life , a wife, kids and home. But the drug addiction was stronger than his wants.

I will pray Z keeps it going and will turn him self around. XXX
Sue
The train keeps rolling.... thank you for your thoughts. yes my son is on the fence, and under the radar. he has been home for 4-5 days and it is like dejavu .... same as before he left 1.5 yrs ago. we cant wait to get him back on the plane. he seems perfectly normal and reasonable, and ok being around the house and around us, and is compliant, helped w yard work at our house and grandma's. But has been staying at someone's house over night most of the time - making himself scarce.... "I'll be home early" = early morning? not early evening when we are awake...
he is ok with going back to FL. has a new job lined up (maybe).... is a little confusing w details of anything.... and so on. It is amazing how he has such a poker face, and does not seem concerned about anything..... we don't know what's a lie and what isn't. the truth and lies are smugged together. not big lies, the little dumb ones that are not necessary.... anyway I'm sure this sounds like everyone's story.... I do know that if I am feeling this way, then things are not right, not good... not clean and sober.
I think if he was truly clean and sober, I would feel it to be true.
sometimes I think he is not very bright. but I'm now thinking he is capable of "being there for his friends" but not for us? not for himself? then I realize this statement is true -> he does know what he is doing, he's not that dumb, he's smart enough to elude us, tell us what we what to hear, and so on..... etc..... hopefully he will surprise us.... idk.
Sad.