Robbie Please.........

Aww....the hell.......I just read your thread........Robbie, Robbie.

You know it's not your fault........that's an easy one right......I understand you though.....we blame US.......of course it's our fault.....all the dope we did, and then we give it up, and LOOK what happens......shoplifting....might as well go get some brown, and smoke it up.

NO NO NO.......YOU helped me with the same exact thing.....it has not a damn thing to do with us in our addiction.....we could have been the Queen, and that husband of hers....shifty that one....anyway we could have been PERFECT, and they still will do what kids do.....the important thing here is as you did is stay calm....easier said than done, but you were so RIGHT for calling your sister....truth be told you right there and then made a wise decision, and we didn't be able to do that before......if we were high.....you'd still have been mad, but got lost in the dope.....of course....and mellowed.....you won't now.

PLUS.....if ya had gone around.....you'd have been locked up....you'd have strangled him.....I am sure also if one boy was the leader how he duped when they got caught.....this how we learn.....your punishment sounds perfect to me......NO ELECTRONICS......I am so sorry, Robbie.....it IS WORTH IT....he was being a boy.....boys as everyone said do this.....my brother was caught stealing so many times, and my dad was a cop.....it's a thrill....just a boy thing.

My brother at an older age stole bumper cars out of a amusement park....him, and friends, and they got in them, and others pushed right down a big avenue.
They got locked up.....and my brother told em....watch when I say who my dad is.....we'll be outta here...they called my dad from the police station, and my dad told them "Let him in there a few days".....let em rot....that was it, and he never stole again, and he's a dad of three boys now....and YES my daughter was there when one of them stole WITH MY BROTHER in the toy store with them......he was stupid enough to take out the extra expensive toy....and my brother saw it in the car....asked where he got it....LIED his A*s off, and my daughter said......I NEVER even heard Uncle T curse let alone beat the living crap out of the boys.....my brother went NUTS.....made him take it back too.

Sorry for long post, but what I mean is....my brother never done a drug in his life......this is kids, Robbie....they're feeling their way.....I mean were you at the club when you said you were.....I wasn't....same with Church....I was kissing some boy on Sunday morning in an alley.....wasn't sleeping over where i said I was....my dad.....he KNEW.....tracked us down.....you HAVE to....cause they will try anything to be their own person....it rebellion.

This was not your fault.....and if you were high....ya'd let it slip.....THEN there'd be a problem.....you will not slip.....you'll be a dad....the wonderful dad you are, and will continue to be....if you screw up now Charly will have no structure, and you may be recanting up the road when he's twenty why he got caught doing something bad....this way he will become a fine man....because of you.
..Bryn..
..Thanx mate..you know if truth be told..i did,nt think of actually using..but i thought if i was still using thats the first thing i would of done..even before the security guard finished speaking to me on my home phone..i would of been ringing my dealer with the other hand on my mobile phone..i know wot ya saying about kids..i was up there with the worst of em when i was his age..but it hurt so much to know he done that.(and he told me this morning he done it twice before.)..i did,nt see it in him to do that..i was obviously wrong..and his mate.(there was only 2 of em).is a really good kid aswell..his parents have taught him good values..thats why it was worse cos we never expected them to do that..but its done now..i can only hope hes learns from this and realise he may get away with it once of twice..even a hundred times..but there will come a day when he will get caught.and he found that out yesterday..in a way im glad he was caught..cos he would of just carried on stealing without me knowing..i had to call my sister bryn..i would of freaked if i had to go down meself...that bit about your brother nicking dodgems..quite funny to imagine them pushing that down the road.lol..but i understand wot ya saying...we never done as we were told as kids a.?..its just horrible to see our kids do it thou..but i,ve spoke to him this morning..and we,ve put it behind us..forgiven but not forgotten kinda thing..i hope things are well with you and your daughter mate..how have ya,ll been yourselfs..thanx for taking the time the post me..glad your back..missed ya while you was away aswell...have a good day bryn..all we can do is make the best of wot we,ve got..take care..Robbie..
EVERY boy should have a father as wonderful as you, Robbie, and I mean that sincerely....you talked it through with Charly....communication is the key.
From what I have learned of your boy just from your posts....he's a good kid.
Some people say "There's no such thing as a bad kid"....I don't agree with that.
I mean by the time they reach ten or eleven or twelve....they may do stupid things, and make mistakes some kids, but it doesn't make them "bad".....on the other hand unfortunately there's some out there who by this time just will be treacherous, and dangerous....unfortunately.....YOU as a DAD handled that situation extremely well.

Most IMPORTANTLY, Robbie....in your discussion Charly told you he took something two other times...he told the truth....he can't lie to you...that is so admirable, and indicates you have done a superb job parenting....definately.
He could have gotten away with telling you that was the first time....very easily could have lied, and even said "Well ONCE before".....plus as you said the one boys parents are good people, and have instilled values in their son as well.
He's on the right track, Robbie.....I also believe in my heart he felt worst that he disappointed you....not that you were angry at him....he feels awful that he disappointed you....I believe that.

Oh for sure...if you'd still been using...you'd have rung the man, and ordered that poison pronto....THEN tried to DEAL with it....also a positive sign is like you said....you didn't even think of using....that's a HUGE step...means you're getting the tools to handle emotions.

Now the BIG question.....why in all of this great, big world....did they take pens?
Pens?....probably the same reason my brother stole the Bumper cars....LOL
My ex-husband once stole a pair of sneakers....trainers....Converse brand as they were the good ones when we were kids....he got caught.....the dude who's idea it was to do it....did not get caught....to this day he said it taught him the lesson that the mastermind completely avoided him, and his other friend after that, and truly was not a real friend.....PLUS he'd had more than enough money for the Converse Chuck Taylor's High Tops....LOL.....he did it just to be cool in that one guys eyes....meanwhile he got grounded for a month as did the other boy, and the "friend" who got away with it was outside playing while they were inside grounded....another lesson learned.

Good fro you Robbie....I felt your pain though....some parents just would have found it easier to not even punish their kids....as that requires input, interest, and investment in our children.....YOU are an EXCELLENT dad....you are.
..Bryn..
..Thanx for your words..you always manage to say the right things to make me feel better about wot im doing as a parent..sometimes we feel like it us who are making the mistakes when our kids are getting in trouble..we try our best but when stuff happens we always blame ourselves..cheers for putting things in perspective..you have a good day..no crying on the bus..LOL...Robbie..

.ps..sorry bryn got you mixed up with someone else regarding the crying.?..