Sad That My Post Was Ruined.....

Pain Pills
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What happened? Yesterday I posted a thread about the 'disease' of addiction and I 'thought' we had a good thing going, then all of a sudden it locked/closed?? What did that person who was responsible say or do? Annoying really. We are all here for recovery, for ourselves, the people coming back, the newcomers, family, the addicts who still suffer, etc. etc. - just sad that some peeps don't seem to be. Oh well? From what the last person posted, I think in a nutshell she (MissKate?) could have said as its' said in meetings...."what said here, who you see here, etc. - stays HERE" (or something to that effect)

Oh well, hope you all have a great day, and thank you all who contributed to yesterday's excellent post. Awesome guys.

Love you all, and God Bless.
Chris
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I missed it but I think that she was copying and pasting posts from another site, which some members here participate in......

Sad... Hate that one for you Matt. Dang, what are you tring to doo? Trying to break the current record for locked threads.......lol...

Maybe DOO is back under another alias. We'll see.

Take Care.
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Chris,

Dont sweat it, just stary another. The funny thing is, we even have arguments from "OTHER" boards that are brought here. As if we didnt have enough..lol

Regards,
Tom
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Oh shoot, I meant Chris..........lmao.........Sorry.......
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chris,

i was sad to see your post locked, from what i read some people that belong to another board have thier own drama going on and copied and pasted to ours as if we dont have enough of our own huh? hehe its all good though it wasnt directed at you or to anyone on this board i dont think. i personally was enjoying the info on that post you had started. even the removed post.

terrianne
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Thanks Tom. I am kinda surprised there are as many arguments as there are around here. Lately it "seems" to have slowed down, but a while back - wow, seemed it was quite frequent......

Okay, off to think of something else I'd like to learn......

Have a good one bud. Chris
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No problem Florida girl......lol

Thanks Terrianne, really appreciate it.

I love this site, how even if it's only through cyberspace, and we can be countries apart (or on other sides of country) how I feel we get to really know each other and build that bond. My cyber-family......
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Heres a topic. Abuse vs. addiction.....
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chris,

your an awesome asset to this board :)

tom,

pinch poke you owe me a coke :-P

terrianne
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Drug abuse vs drug addiction?? Wow Tom, where do you come up with these? lol Is there a difference? Or is the difference be when you start NEEDING the drugs??? People can abuse something but stop c/t and not need it - obviously not us. Quickly thinking about if, that would be my quick/short answer............will go ponder..........
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Ter,

Nope, sorry, my fingers were crossed. (that gives me protection from just about everything) including being "it"

Regards,
Tom
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Thanks Terrianne, you're a very warm soul.

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Chris,

I think abuse most definately leads to addiction, but its not the same.

Regards,
Tom
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Tom, but do you think abuse ALWAYS leads to addiction?? Bet in some (most?) cases, but not all. Heck, back in my day I have tons of buddies who drank and used with me, but now they are fine. Still drink socially, but their party days are behind them withfamilies etc. Just me the sorry sap who got all messed up.....lol (but with all fairness, I can totally accept that my 'non-party' ways contributed to my addiction - from the way I was raised, to my lack of self-worth and self-esteem, etc. etc)
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That's a good question,

I'm not sure if abuse always turn into addiction. I've seen people abuse drugs in their younger days and was able to stop and live a normal life.
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Chris,

No, I dont think it always leads to addiction, like your examples have shown. But I think every addiction started as abuse, if that makes sense. There is something in our brains that turns abuse to addiction, maybe someone else knows more of what that is. Was it abuse as children? is it genetic? or it it a combination of alot of things.. I just dont know.

Regards,
tom
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Good point Tom, just wish their were some concrete answers. I know my addiction started by abusing my pills.....but why can some people stop and some people enter the horrible world of addiction? Personally, and ONLY my two bits......I think a lack of self-worth and esteem play a large part, almost the same if not more than genetics or anything like that. Why I say that for?? Show me one addict, still using or in their using days who loved/loves themselves. I am sure, almost positive, if we did love ourselves and think anything of ourselves, we wouldn't torture or try kill ourselves like we did. We would have no reason to hide, run away or isolate. We could have all been raised differently, come from different backgrounds, have different stoires, but definintely one thing we all had/have in common. No self-esteem, self-worth, self-love, etc. etc.

Again, only my two bits......
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Hmmm, Maybe it has something to do with availability? I was off and on pain pills for 15 years just before and after my fusion. No problems, took as needed. But when the disks above the fusion ruptured, I was put on large doses of o.c., and lortab. I'd had the same Dr. for 15 years and he totally trusted me. And away I went. Knowing it would be available every month definetly had something to do with it.
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Here's a thought...and I hope you don't mind me adding to your thread, Chris, but what is considered abuse? In my younger days, I would take ONE hit of acid for the night. Was that abuse? Was it abuse because it was illegal?
If I take a pill as prescribed, say a xanax, knowing it is my DOC, but intending to take it as prescribed (don't worry, I know i can't) am I abusing it or if I tell my doctor ahead of time that I am an addict and he prescribes it anyway does that mean its ok for me to take it?
At what point do we consider legitimate pain meds to go from being legit to being abused?
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Interesting intoodeep.......like why were you okay (or were you?) early on, then got in trouble (for lack of better term) when doses etc went up? Could it be other things were going on in your life? (tired of being in pain, sick or whatever?) Tired of all the medical stuff? I have no idea, but it's interesting. Maybe it has to do with a different drug? Dunno, but good question......