I'm new here and I posted a response to dee's post. So here I go again: I am a junkie just trying to get clean. I have tried everything so I have broken down and decided to go to a Sub Dr. and that's not 4 3 more days. I am in the beginning of WD and I don't think that I can go 4 three more days without using. Can anyone help?
I know very little about the "sub rules"- -Something like ,its better if you dont have any opiates in you for a day or 2 ?? Im not sure.
Of course if your habit isnt a monster habit- -& your going to fight it & stay clean for 4 days- maybe you wont need any medicine
Ive been on methadone a long time, but I would have went the dope -to- sub route if it was invented back then.
Stay focused and keep in touch, someone with sub knowledge will pop up with advise sooner or later.
best,
jack
Of course if your habit isnt a monster habit- -& your going to fight it & stay clean for 4 days- maybe you wont need any medicine
Ive been on methadone a long time, but I would have went the dope -to- sub route if it was invented back then.
Stay focused and keep in touch, someone with sub knowledge will pop up with advise sooner or later.
best,
jack
Hi Veronica....sorry; i havent been around too much latley....i truly hope your still with us....i was a junkie when i first arrived here...still active, still using...i used right up until i was in the docs office....i went into wd's upon transfer from H to methadone....lasted about 3 days or so until i leveled off...i dont know much about the sub route...know i think whats been said around here that you have to be in wd's before you get on it...try going for a 24 hour or so just before going into the doc...then you wont be so sick that you cant at least get there...you can do it !! ; we all have...its a rough journey...but it can be done...hang in there and please check back with us !!
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Veronica, I just posted to you on the sub board. If you can go 3-4 days wiith out H is there anyway you can do it without the sub? If you can't I understand. Just know the longet your on the sub the longer/stronger the sub wd will be once you stop taking it.
Oh and to start the sub you need to be atleast 15-24 hours without opiates they say the longer the better. I've always taken it around 16-19 hours. It really depends on you habit. If you could use it 7-30 days you would be in great shape. If you ever want to talk, I usually check in every day. I've been on sub a bunch of times since 2005. I put it in the other post
Oh and to start the sub you need to be atleast 15-24 hours without opiates they say the longer the better. I've always taken it around 16-19 hours. It really depends on you habit. If you could use it 7-30 days you would be in great shape. If you ever want to talk, I usually check in every day. I've been on sub a bunch of times since 2005. I put it in the other post
I just replied on the H board. Our detox is full, that's the way it goes here in the bitter winters in the midwest. I used today, oxy, and not IV. I just woke up in a panic and with having little sleep in the last 2 days, I felt I had to. I know that I actually didn't have to,,...but I felt I did. Using is what I do 1st thing, and I did, because I have a kidney infection also and there is just no way ;that I am going to WD and be in excruciating pain. Thanks so much to all of you that's replied. I feel better knowing that I am not going this alone.
V, In your last post you wrote "there is no way I'm going to go thru w/d." Do you mind if I ask why? If you go on sub and don't plan to stay on it forever you are going to have wd when you get off that or any opiate. I'm not in any way trying to be a b****, just wondering if your in for the long hall with the suboxone?
Hey Lynn, as a consequence of my being an IV user, unfiltered toxins entering the kidneys and liver and all that, my health is a little less than optimum. That is why I am choosing to do the sub. It was suggested by my family dr. as well as the sub dr. that she referred me to. We all know that opiate withdrawal is not fatal but is also not recommended when you have some of the health issues that some of us have. When my infections go away and I am starting to feel better physically, than I can choose to make some different choices concerning the sub. I know there is withdrawal with sub, and when my health is improved I can and will deal with it. Thanx for caring, and for asking.
Hi Veronica,
Man, I hear you. Thinking back the last thing I was going to do is go through withdrawl when I was in pain from a health issue. Physciall ya know?
You're taking a right step though. You have a plan.
We've all been there so please know we all care. I'm so sorry about the infection. There's only looking up now and getting better. The panic s*cks. The insomnia s*cks. Vicious cycle ain't it.
Feel better and congrats on prepapring to get clean.
Man, I hear you. Thinking back the last thing I was going to do is go through withdrawl when I was in pain from a health issue. Physciall ya know?
You're taking a right step though. You have a plan.
We've all been there so please know we all care. I'm so sorry about the infection. There's only looking up now and getting better. The panic s*cks. The insomnia s*cks. Vicious cycle ain't it.
Feel better and congrats on prepapring to get clean.
