While just checking out the board it made me think back to detox, and rehab.
Anyone ever notice how different addictions effect different people? How we actually get judgemental by what specific substance someone uses? This has always really peaked my interest.
Such being all the heroin addicts group together. You might be in group, and a crystal meth user speaks. You see all the faces of heroin addicts scrunch up, and eyes roll. Same thing with the vice versa. You can cry about your withdrawl, and the rock addicts tell you to knock off that crying.
Personally I remember saying "Oh, llok at thos crack heads. I don't trust them for as far as spit. They'll rob you blind". Ummmm. I robbed my own mom. Like where does that come from? Now clean for over a year, and some I don't judge anyone at all for anything, but in the begining I was all ready to slam the crack addicts, and crystal meth users. That's not nice. LOL
PCP/Wet
Bryn, You replied to my post about my son. I'm new to this. How do I reply to that post. I can't seem to get back to it. When I first logged on, I went to new posts. Read your response & by the way, thank you, and just got back on the computer to reply & I'm lost.
Barb
Bryn, You replied to my post about my son. I'm new to this. How do I reply to that post. I can't seem to get back to it. When I first logged on, I went to new posts. Read your response & by the way, thank you, and just got back on the computer to reply & I'm lost.
Barb
go back to the "Other Drugs" Forum on the Main Screen.
Click on the title of your post "pcp/wet"
and than in the top right hand corner click on the "post reply" button.
type your response and click "post" at the bottom of the page
Click on the title of your post "pcp/wet"
and than in the top right hand corner click on the "post reply" button.
type your response and click "post" at the bottom of the page
Hey, Barb. I was looking for you. I guess you didn't find the post or had trouble with it.
Just respond here if you can't get to it. BTW I'm computer illiterate myself so don't worry about it.
Thank you, guest. That was kind of you to try to help Barb. Hoping Barb's son is O.K. today.
Just respond here if you can't get to it. BTW I'm computer illiterate myself so don't worry about it.
Thank you, guest. That was kind of you to try to help Barb. Hoping Barb's son is O.K. today.
Bryn,
My daughter feels the same way you did. She has been clean for 15 days now and feels that because she is a herion addict, it is harded for her to kick this than anyother drug addiction. As if hers is the worse. I told her, because we talk often now that she's clean, that any addiction is just that, an adiction. An addict is an addict and your "DOC" doesn't matter. She is young and still new to recovery. Maybe this is normal to feel this way?
Hermom
My daughter feels the same way you did. She has been clean for 15 days now and feels that because she is a herion addict, it is harded for her to kick this than anyother drug addiction. As if hers is the worse. I told her, because we talk often now that she's clean, that any addiction is just that, an adiction. An addict is an addict and your "DOC" doesn't matter. She is young and still new to recovery. Maybe this is normal to feel this way?
Hermom
Hermom,
Your daughter may be trying to explain the physical part of withdrawl being tougher than the other drugs. Maybe that's what it is.
You're educating yourself. That's awesome. I know my mom would see something on a movie or TV, and then relate it while helping in a detox. Or maybe like a few weeks into it she'd mean very well, but I'd scream "It ain't like that". Plus hey we're addicts, and only WE have it the worst. LOL
You're doing the right thing by just listening to her. Encourage her by just saying "You're doing great". Your daughter trusts you because she asked you to come help her. Not everyone can do that asking their mom's help.
She's got a little bit of time in now. Ya know too you often do actually catch stuff when you get clean. Alot of addicts will tell you that. Seriously. We joke that the dope preserved us. Probably more like we were so toxic some flu wasn't going to come near us. She might get fever blisters, and stuff too.
You just hang in there. I know you worry so much. Policing don't help at all, and I know you're not doing that. Right now too she's going to be super emotional. She wants this though. She can do it.
Your daughter may be trying to explain the physical part of withdrawl being tougher than the other drugs. Maybe that's what it is.
You're educating yourself. That's awesome. I know my mom would see something on a movie or TV, and then relate it while helping in a detox. Or maybe like a few weeks into it she'd mean very well, but I'd scream "It ain't like that". Plus hey we're addicts, and only WE have it the worst. LOL
You're doing the right thing by just listening to her. Encourage her by just saying "You're doing great". Your daughter trusts you because she asked you to come help her. Not everyone can do that asking their mom's help.
She's got a little bit of time in now. Ya know too you often do actually catch stuff when you get clean. Alot of addicts will tell you that. Seriously. We joke that the dope preserved us. Probably more like we were so toxic some flu wasn't going to come near us. She might get fever blisters, and stuff too.
You just hang in there. I know you worry so much. Policing don't help at all, and I know you're not doing that. Right now too she's going to be super emotional. She wants this though. She can do it.
hermom,,hi ya..the thing with heroin,,it,s not the drug itself,,it,s the way we use it..i was a foil smoker,,that was my buzz,,rolling up the tube,,smoothing the foil out..having a few lines..putting it away in the draw..going out ..coming back have a few lines..sort the dinner out,,put the washing in have a few lines..have something to eat cup of tea a few lines..hang the washing up . watch a bit of telly . a few lines go to bed.. wake up ring the dealer...it, a vicious cycle..fixers tell me the same how they do theirs,,the day ain,t the same without it..that,s the addiction..hope i could help..bye...robbie.
hermom..sorry just also wanted to ask what she does with her time..does she work.or is she at home allday..it,s easy to stop heroin..the hard part is staying off it..it,s a life sentence for us..sorry to say it but it,s the truth..hope your daughter keeps up the good work..and you live a trouble free life...robbie
I wish the best for your daughter but I never saw anyone get it right the first time. With herion its seems like everyone relapses eventually. Unless your on something to control the craving for a long period of time (methadone, suboxone, naltrexone) I can't see anyone making it long term on there first few times getting clean.
Hi Robbie,
My daughter works at night and attends college during the day. She has not been to school since detox. She was there before, during the drug use, but probably not often.
She didn't live with me then, she moved in with her boyfriend in August of this year. As I look back, she probably moved in with him to avoid me.
I think she's embarassed to return to school because she has not done so well and now doesnt know what to do. I keep telling her not to put it off, go find out what you need to do to continue, if that what you want to do. I am paying for her college and she has messed up her first semester. I am willing to pay for one more semester,even if she has to repeat it, but if she doesn't do well, I am done. She is the oldest of my 4 children and this is a great expense for my husband and me. I think it makes her feel good about herself because she's a "collage student".
I don't think her herion addiction has been that long. She may have been using for 8 months or so, but I think she came to me for help when it started to get out of control last month.
I now relize that addiction to the drug is only part of the addiction, the other is the daily pattern of finding the money for drugs, using the drugs and then searching for more drugs.Something to do all day i guess. She can get out of the daily cycle or pattern, Do you know what I mean?
She has said to me that she has nothing to get up for in the mornings.I have my younger children to care for, and so have something to do. I don't know from experience, but I would rather have nothing to do than have to look for a fix, and I have told her this.
I do try to keep her busy if she looking "antsy". I will offer to go shopping with her or something. This is a good time of the year for shopping, not that I need an reason!
Thanks for asking Robbie, I appreciate it.
My daughter works at night and attends college during the day. She has not been to school since detox. She was there before, during the drug use, but probably not often.
She didn't live with me then, she moved in with her boyfriend in August of this year. As I look back, she probably moved in with him to avoid me.
I think she's embarassed to return to school because she has not done so well and now doesnt know what to do. I keep telling her not to put it off, go find out what you need to do to continue, if that what you want to do. I am paying for her college and she has messed up her first semester. I am willing to pay for one more semester,even if she has to repeat it, but if she doesn't do well, I am done. She is the oldest of my 4 children and this is a great expense for my husband and me. I think it makes her feel good about herself because she's a "collage student".
I don't think her herion addiction has been that long. She may have been using for 8 months or so, but I think she came to me for help when it started to get out of control last month.
I now relize that addiction to the drug is only part of the addiction, the other is the daily pattern of finding the money for drugs, using the drugs and then searching for more drugs.Something to do all day i guess. She can get out of the daily cycle or pattern, Do you know what I mean?
She has said to me that she has nothing to get up for in the mornings.I have my younger children to care for, and so have something to do. I don't know from experience, but I would rather have nothing to do than have to look for a fix, and I have told her this.
I do try to keep her busy if she looking "antsy". I will offer to go shopping with her or something. This is a good time of the year for shopping, not that I need an reason!
Thanks for asking Robbie, I appreciate it.
hermom..sorry i ain,t been about over here since saturday morning<londoner> and i was looking for this post but could,nt find it...i am clean from all drugs<heroin my last drug> for 11 days now...so i just wanna say to ya...you can look me up anytime on the heroin board..and i will talk to ya...people forget..the parents are also victims of drug abuse aswell...very nice to speak to you..you seem like a wonderful mother..you deserve to be happy so does your daughter..robbie,, good luck..
HI Robbie,
I am sorry it took me so lomg to reply. Christmas and all.
It was very nice,what you said to me. Us Moms don't know the "right " thing to do sometimes, and I know I can't ask my friends, they haven;t been there.
It is nice to know that ex addicts, like you, are there to help someone like me. You all have something to offer, advice, experiences or just kind words, and it is all important to all us Moms and others like me.
Thank you and keep up the good work, I know its not easy.
Hermom
ps Merry Christmas
I am sorry it took me so lomg to reply. Christmas and all.
It was very nice,what you said to me. Us Moms don't know the "right " thing to do sometimes, and I know I can't ask my friends, they haven;t been there.
It is nice to know that ex addicts, like you, are there to help someone like me. You all have something to offer, advice, experiences or just kind words, and it is all important to all us Moms and others like me.
Thank you and keep up the good work, I know its not easy.
Hermom
ps Merry Christmas
...hermom..i,ve just read this post..and thank you..i hope you enjoyed yesterday too..its the first xmas for me in 11yrs that i awoke without having to reach for the phone to ring my dealer.?..is everything ok with your daughter?? an addicts life can be so lonely..even though we have got people around us to guide us through the day...all the best to you and your famliy for the new year...may peace be at your door and be strong...good luck.xx..robbie..
Robbie.
I am glad that you and you son had a nice holiday. My family and I did too.
I was struck by your comment on lonliness and addicts. My daughter can be in a room full of people, and I can "see" her lonliness. What is this all about? I mean, even in a room of family and friends, i sense this. Does she feel uncomfortable, like she doesn't belong? Can you explain this lonliness to me?
Thanks, Hermom
I am glad that you and you son had a nice holiday. My family and I did too.
I was struck by your comment on lonliness and addicts. My daughter can be in a room full of people, and I can "see" her lonliness. What is this all about? I mean, even in a room of family and friends, i sense this. Does she feel uncomfortable, like she doesn't belong? Can you explain this lonliness to me?
Thanks, Hermom
..hermom..how are ya all doing..i,ve been up all night..decorating my flat...i was meant to do it from last week but kept putting it off ..but my son is coming back from his nans tomorrow[thurs] so i,ve had to get it done asap..so bare with me....its quite difficult to explain really..?...it,s just this emptiness i feel..as if im on my own in life..i,ve got lots of family and friends..but i feel distant from everyone...there conversations are flying over my head..i don,t feel in the same room as them even though im sitting beside them..their world seems a million miles from mine...its quite hard to explain as i said...but it,s the way i feel...maybe your daughter feels that way aswell..?....even though i,ve stopped using heroin..i still don,t feel part of their world..?..i hope that might help explai wot you were asking...robbie... how are you anyway...take care of yourselfs hermom...
Robbie,
Help me bring her back into "our" world, how can I make her feel included? Oviously, we don't ignore her, is her mind (heart) somewhere else? I hate the aloneness and guilt I "see" in her.
She is doing real well, as far as the heroin goes. I know she been clean from that, but I did just say to my husband, I am going to check her pocketbook for pills, benzos, I think. Sot of a far away calm effect in her lately. (not refering to the above lonliness.)
Thank for responding...and get that place lookin pretty! LOL
Hermom
Help me bring her back into "our" world, how can I make her feel included? Oviously, we don't ignore her, is her mind (heart) somewhere else? I hate the aloneness and guilt I "see" in her.
She is doing real well, as far as the heroin goes. I know she been clean from that, but I did just say to my husband, I am going to check her pocketbook for pills, benzos, I think. Sot of a far away calm effect in her lately. (not refering to the above lonliness.)
Thank for responding...and get that place lookin pretty! LOL
Hermom
...hermom..i just wanted to add..maybe its the guilt we feel..over the lies we told our family ..the stealing off our loved ones...the times we let everyone down..it could be because of the shame.we brought on all our family..that causes that distance...as they say the eyes never lie.....robbie..
...sorry ,,i was writing the above one as you were posting yours..haha...
...you can only give her as much love and support as you can..but try not to smother her with it to much...you have to trust her..even though you might have doubts where shes going.or what shes doing ..and whatever you do don,t let her catch you..checking about for any sort of evidence of anything....us addicts use any excuse to reuse.?...when we stop using...life can become boring somedays..thats why we need to keep occupied otherwise we start thinking about our old life..has she got any sort of social life away from her old one.?..does she go to n/a meetings or s/thing like that...robbie..
....bryn ..you know wot...i,ve been reading some post today...??...
ADDICT SEGREGATION....so so true sister.........i was talking to someone the other day...when i told em i was a ex heroin user...theyve just blanked.me.....some people are so up there own asses....they think they are the higher power.....i know where my loyalties lie now...i,ll tell ya.......i thought i was wrong about saying certain things to other.people..on here before...man im know im right now.....see ya later ....happy new year....robbie...
ADDICT SEGREGATION....so so true sister.........i was talking to someone the other day...when i told em i was a ex heroin user...theyve just blanked.me.....some people are so up there own asses....they think they are the higher power.....i know where my loyalties lie now...i,ll tell ya.......i thought i was wrong about saying certain things to other.people..on here before...man im know im right now.....see ya later ....happy new year....robbie...
