Hello!
This is my first time here, but I need some help. I am in day 2 of w/d.
I can't stop sweating, I feel so sick. I have been on pills ever since my daughter was born 2/5/04. I don't want to take them anymore because of how I feel when I don't have them, but what I need to know is what is in store for me over the next days- weeks - months??? I hope someone can tell me how long this will last, and what I am going to go through.
I tried to look up different ways to get off of this for good, but all the different "rehab" places are way too expensive.
I really feel like I am dying, but I have two young kids at home, as well as a loving husband who knows NOTHING about my problem.
please someone help...
Hey,
Before anyone can help you you have to tell us what you were taking......how much a day........Hang tight.....
Tina
Before anyone can help you you have to tell us what you were taking......how much a day........Hang tight.....
Tina
Hi, i just got your post, how many were you taking, and what were the mgs??
you havent been on them to long, i was on Vics for 6 in a half years!
you havent been on them to long, i was on Vics for 6 in a half years!
I have been taking moslty vico-prophen with a few pecocets here and there.
But I would take usually 6-8 pills per day 7.5/500. Some days it was fewer, it just depended on how many I had.
Also this is very hard for me to go into a holiday without anything. I can't even remember the last holiday I had without pills.
thanks - anything will help!
But I would take usually 6-8 pills per day 7.5/500. Some days it was fewer, it just depended on how many I had.
Also this is very hard for me to go into a holiday without anything. I can't even remember the last holiday I had without pills.
thanks - anything will help!
Hi, well in order to help you I would have to know what pill you were taking and how many of what mg a day? If you were on a high amount of mg per day and then just ran out or what will depend on your withdrawl process for sure but I couldn't exactly tell you what to expect until you tell us that. Good luck to you and I will help you get through it as will everyone here if you just let us know.. Rae
ok, i was on 20-30 pills daily for 6 years!! and it took me 3 days to detox in rehab, but that's me, see everyone is diffrent? dont worry it gets better, drink water, baths, vitamins, motrin for any pain, Bendryl for sleeping, and stomache stuff, ummm ,,cant think of the names right know, but u get it and keep your mind busy, i know eaiser said that done, bit i did it and i actully had to quit my job because I was a nurse and that is way to big of a trigger 4-me! please take care and hang in there, jasmine
Hi there. The worst of it will probably be over in 7 to 10 days...days 2 to 4 are usually the worst.
You might want to tell your husband, or someone else, just to get some support.
The sweating, nausea, pupil dialation, electric feeling throughout your body is all part of it.
Then there will probably be some depression and fatigue, followed by mental cravings.
I have little ones as well. There are meds that can help; bupranex was given to me in treatment. I think it is also refered to as suboxone...maybe someone else here can help with that info.
But hang in there. It is better sober, I promise.
kerry
You might want to tell your husband, or someone else, just to get some support.
The sweating, nausea, pupil dialation, electric feeling throughout your body is all part of it.
Then there will probably be some depression and fatigue, followed by mental cravings.
I have little ones as well. There are meds that can help; bupranex was given to me in treatment. I think it is also refered to as suboxone...maybe someone else here can help with that info.
But hang in there. It is better sober, I promise.
kerry
I know it seems rough right now, but hang in there. The short length of your usage will help you immensely. At the end of the week, you will feel so much better. When it is happening to you, it seems like you are all alone. You are not. In fact, if you think about it, there are many people going through the same thing, only amplified 100 times. Take loperamide(immodium) for the stomach and take as many hot showers as you can. Drink plenty of liquids also. It is so tough, but it will pass.
I have been thinking about telling my husband for a while, but every time I get about 2 days in w/d, I usually make myself believe I am so sick that I need to see a doctor. So I go to the doctor an usually end up with more pills.
I went to the E.R. about 1 1/2 weeks ago because my back was hurting so bad. I thought it had to do with my kidneys or lungs. So I went to the E.R. where they did a whole bunch of tests - found NOTHING. So they gave me a RX for percocet. After I took 2 of those I felt completly better. So i know that whole thing had to be related to w/d.
I ran out of those 3 days later - was off for 1 day - then had another rx filled for vicodin 7.5/500 for 30pills. I finished those in 4 days.
I am out now, and can't stop my mind from thinking of ways to get more.
But I feel so sick - I keep thinking somehting must be wrong - or I must be dying???
I went to the E.R. about 1 1/2 weeks ago because my back was hurting so bad. I thought it had to do with my kidneys or lungs. So I went to the E.R. where they did a whole bunch of tests - found NOTHING. So they gave me a RX for percocet. After I took 2 of those I felt completly better. So i know that whole thing had to be related to w/d.
I ran out of those 3 days later - was off for 1 day - then had another rx filled for vicodin 7.5/500 for 30pills. I finished those in 4 days.
I am out now, and can't stop my mind from thinking of ways to get more.
But I feel so sick - I keep thinking somehting must be wrong - or I must be dying???
WOW, YOU SOUND LIKE ME WHILE I AM IN W/D, ITS A CATCH 22.. they make you feel so good, but they also are the cause of you feeling so sick?? ahhh.. wow i can not beleive they gave you a rx for perc's, that a triplacate, normally they , or our er gave vics, anyways thats besides the point, i am at a loss for words right know, what r u going to do??, you have to break that vicious cycle of using, "use to live, and live to use".. thats us... so what can you do, what about a meeting??, they reallly helped me, they are not for everyone but none the less its worth a try, there is a lot of luv there, TRUST ME!!.. take care jazzy
That is the symptoms of withdrawl. It will be rough, but if you ride it out, you won't have to do it again.
The madness of getting pills, having enough to feel normal, etc. etc. is a nighmare.
I think that if you can tell someone what is going on, they can help. You aren't alone; alot of people have gone through what you are now.
You have 2 days now; if you hold out just a little longer it will be over..
hang in there, I know it isn't easy.
kerry
The madness of getting pills, having enough to feel normal, etc. etc. is a nighmare.
I think that if you can tell someone what is going on, they can help. You aren't alone; alot of people have gone through what you are now.
You have 2 days now; if you hold out just a little longer it will be over..
hang in there, I know it isn't easy.
kerry
Hi
I am so sorry to here what you are going through especially alone. If you have truly made up your mind to quit, which I believe you have, then you have to tell people incuding your husband and Dr. This will be hard but if you don't you will always have an escape route and give yourself excuses to use again. I believe decisions points are cyclical and that you may be at that point when you have to act or else you may get stuck in the madness again and who knows where that will lead, just read some of the stories on here. Have you thuoght of going to Narcotics anonymous or if you have one your religious minister, whatever faith you are.
I think its awesome to have got this far alone and having to look after children.
Please keep coming back here and reach out to who you feel comfortable with, read some posts and you will get a feel for what you are in for
Warmly
Paul
I am so sorry to here what you are going through especially alone. If you have truly made up your mind to quit, which I believe you have, then you have to tell people incuding your husband and Dr. This will be hard but if you don't you will always have an escape route and give yourself excuses to use again. I believe decisions points are cyclical and that you may be at that point when you have to act or else you may get stuck in the madness again and who knows where that will lead, just read some of the stories on here. Have you thuoght of going to Narcotics anonymous or if you have one your religious minister, whatever faith you are.
I think its awesome to have got this far alone and having to look after children.
Please keep coming back here and reach out to who you feel comfortable with, read some posts and you will get a feel for what you are in for
Warmly
Paul
Britney ,My suggestion ,and its only that you might want to tell your husband, theres a lot of shame involved about being an addict but if you have the love of your life on your side it can make all the difference in the world . Ive personally havent taken any MS cotin in over a wek I was on for several years , I switched to methadone till jan 3rd when I will use bupranex to get off I found it much easier just being honest with my wife as it takes so much energy to hide pills and make up reasons why your not feeling well . Luckily it sounds that you were on class 3 drugs which are in my opinion mabey not others a little easier to get off of. Bottom line is withdrawls suc_ no matter how you look at it . You might also check to se if there is an adiction MD in town that could give you something non addictive to take the edge off and make it a little more berable. My heart goes out to you as this is no easy process but It can be done much luck sincerely Ray
Ramon is right. Having your love at your side makes ALL the difference in the world.
Thank you all for all of your thoughts and recomendations. I am currently at work, and even thinking about doing paperwork is making me feel sick. My legs ache, my back hurts, and when I think about going home to take care of the kids, I really wonder if I will be able to do anything other than sit on the couch and think about the fact that I am out of pills.
When I think about doing things ( as stupid as this may sound it is the truth) like writing a letter, or going to the zoo with the kids, I feel like I need to be on something. And if I am not on anything I can't go. I don't feel like I enjoy anything unless I am on something. My marrage has been affected by this. With my mood swings, and being happy and then so mad, throwing things (not at anyone) But I feel like nothing will ever be okay again with out pills.
I really need someone to tell me I am not going to feel like this forever. Because if this is what forever is going to be like, I would rather try to get the meds. Thanks.
When I think about doing things ( as stupid as this may sound it is the truth) like writing a letter, or going to the zoo with the kids, I feel like I need to be on something. And if I am not on anything I can't go. I don't feel like I enjoy anything unless I am on something. My marrage has been affected by this. With my mood swings, and being happy and then so mad, throwing things (not at anyone) But I feel like nothing will ever be okay again with out pills.
I really need someone to tell me I am not going to feel like this forever. Because if this is what forever is going to be like, I would rather try to get the meds. Thanks.
Britney,
I know what you mean I can totally relate alothough I am in a different situation as you right now, I have been in your shoes in the past-trust me I know first hand what methadone,percocet and hydro can do to your life. It is a horrible MENTAL cycle. Which in my opinion is worse than they physical withdrawl. It won't last forever huh,hang in there be strong and I nkow you think about it and ot feel like doing much of anything for a few days or longer,everyone is different but it's just the way it has to go,even though it stinks. I know some people say they took as many pills or more per day than you,however, with me the taper thing does work and then stopping altogether helps. I would get my body used to a lower dose daily and then stop or just stay at 1 pill per day for a while and just knowing I have more play mind games with yself. i think it is easier for some people just to get rid of the pills and deal with what lies ahead and not look back. It may look easier said than done at this point in your life. Things WILL get better and life will look differnt and the physical and mental will ease up over time. How long I can't answer that because everyone is different. Try and take lots of vitamins and like someone else said Benadryl does work for a good nights sleep or at least some sleep. Motrin and tylenol extra strength is good too throughout the day.. If things get real bad Comtrex cold and flu helps and they have pills in night and day time form. Hope you feel better very soon. Hang in there girl-you CAN do it!!! It has been done!!!! It's so worth it and you should be proud of yourself for getting this far! Best of Luck to you and Happy Thanksgiving-sounds like you do have a great family to be thankful for....
I know what you mean I can totally relate alothough I am in a different situation as you right now, I have been in your shoes in the past-trust me I know first hand what methadone,percocet and hydro can do to your life. It is a horrible MENTAL cycle. Which in my opinion is worse than they physical withdrawl. It won't last forever huh,hang in there be strong and I nkow you think about it and ot feel like doing much of anything for a few days or longer,everyone is different but it's just the way it has to go,even though it stinks. I know some people say they took as many pills or more per day than you,however, with me the taper thing does work and then stopping altogether helps. I would get my body used to a lower dose daily and then stop or just stay at 1 pill per day for a while and just knowing I have more play mind games with yself. i think it is easier for some people just to get rid of the pills and deal with what lies ahead and not look back. It may look easier said than done at this point in your life. Things WILL get better and life will look differnt and the physical and mental will ease up over time. How long I can't answer that because everyone is different. Try and take lots of vitamins and like someone else said Benadryl does work for a good nights sleep or at least some sleep. Motrin and tylenol extra strength is good too throughout the day.. If things get real bad Comtrex cold and flu helps and they have pills in night and day time form. Hope you feel better very soon. Hang in there girl-you CAN do it!!! It has been done!!!! It's so worth it and you should be proud of yourself for getting this far! Best of Luck to you and Happy Thanksgiving-sounds like you do have a great family to be thankful for....
Oh Britney, as i reed your post it freaked me out, because it was as if you were me, we were the same exzact person!!! freaky man. look it passes with time and that little white pill with a V on it, will help you for a few hours and u will go back to feeling again , this time even worse!! please beleive me when i tell you this, you have came so far, have you ever been to a meeting??, try it, it worked for me, get numbers , hell i was despericte i would of tryed anything to stay clean and i did and u can as well.. i am here for you and if u need to talk personally, my e-mail is (jasmine49@comcast.net) ok,, good luck.and its only an hour , it is my 60 min miracle!!
luv jasmine
luv jasmine
Britney, I can so relate.
The withrawls really won't last that long, I promise.
You got some good advice and I guess I am posting again because I feel your pain...I was there.
It will get better, and it is better without pills. It isn't easy, but it really is easier than doing life WITH THE PILL NIGHTMARE...Now you just get the life part. The getting, taking, getting over, hiding, of pills is a nightmare.
Hang in there.
And be kind to yourself.
Oh, and I throw things sometimes too, so don't feel alone..
kerry
The withrawls really won't last that long, I promise.
You got some good advice and I guess I am posting again because I feel your pain...I was there.
It will get better, and it is better without pills. It isn't easy, but it really is easier than doing life WITH THE PILL NIGHTMARE...Now you just get the life part. The getting, taking, getting over, hiding, of pills is a nightmare.
Hang in there.
And be kind to yourself.
Oh, and I throw things sometimes too, so don't feel alone..
kerry
Britney
You will not feel like you do now forever, promise. Its just that your body has got used to the pills so you do not feel *normal* without them. I think it is very common for addicts to feel they cannot enjoy anything without pills. what you say dosnt sound stupid, I never wanted to do anything then I would drop a handful of pills and then I would want to do everything and more. I thought just like you that I would rather take opiates forever than feel this miserable off them but where will it end? You will have to take more and more to feel *normal*. You eventualy not get a buzz of them then you get in deeper ordering stronger pills maybe. Things will get better its just that at the moment your body dosnt produce enough endorphines (they give you pleasure) because the opiates you take does the job for you. It just takes time. You could look at taking an anti depressant for a while that helps some. I hope you get help, you cannot do this alone. please believe me, think of your children. things can only get worse. Like I said before you are doing so well having done 2 days you have *broken the back* of the withdrwals a few more days is worth it as opposed to a life as a junkie.
Hope it goes well
Paul
You will not feel like you do now forever, promise. Its just that your body has got used to the pills so you do not feel *normal* without them. I think it is very common for addicts to feel they cannot enjoy anything without pills. what you say dosnt sound stupid, I never wanted to do anything then I would drop a handful of pills and then I would want to do everything and more. I thought just like you that I would rather take opiates forever than feel this miserable off them but where will it end? You will have to take more and more to feel *normal*. You eventualy not get a buzz of them then you get in deeper ordering stronger pills maybe. Things will get better its just that at the moment your body dosnt produce enough endorphines (they give you pleasure) because the opiates you take does the job for you. It just takes time. You could look at taking an anti depressant for a while that helps some. I hope you get help, you cannot do this alone. please believe me, think of your children. things can only get worse. Like I said before you are doing so well having done 2 days you have *broken the back* of the withdrwals a few more days is worth it as opposed to a life as a junkie.
Hope it goes well
Paul
dear britney -
this feeling that you are experiencing while detoxing is not going to last forever, although at this point it may feel so. as well intentioned as the suggestions you are receiving online, it's best to find a doctor who specializes in addiction medicine to monitor your detox.
there are so many things that can go awry when we detox. our past medical history, co-morbidities, or any other medications we may be taking (non addicting) come into play here too. i can only speak for myself but i was never one to volunteer all of the pharmacological agents that i was addicted to. at the height of my addiction, your drug was my drug and it really didn't matter what the drug was, as long as it took me out of me, i abused it. i filled an entire page of prescribed and otc medications that i was using when i went to detox. stuff that i never considered because it wasn't my drug of choice. although this may not the circumstance with you, i needed the help of professionals who knew a little more about detox than i did to prompt my memory about the drugs i abused.
if going inpatient is out of the question, i suggest you check with your local community mental health and substance abuse agency. there are psychiatrists, social workers and entire team who can assess you properly and most of these places will work with you on a sliding scale according to your income.
the substance abuse facility for the city i live in has funds set aside for people who require inpatient detox and cannot afford to go on their own. perhaps, they do in your community too. the bottom line is that you remain physically safe while detoxing. physical safety is of utmost importance.
additionally, when seeking help from these professionals and going inpatient, it put a distance between me and the drugs. i needed this because i had this uncanny way of justifying, minimizing, and rationalizing (rational-lies) using drugs again. i would amass about 5 or 6 days of clean time under my belt and could convince myself that i was not an addict - say silly stuff like "see sammy, if you were an addict you would not have gone 5 days without using" or then there was the "see - you can go 5 or 6 days without using, therefore you deserve to be able to use on weekends or a few days out of the week." blah blah blah - controlled using never proved successful to this addict because as it turned out, one pill was always too many and one thousand was never enough.
the other point of interest that consulting with medical professionals is that this was my first introduction to the 12 step program of recovery. i never had a problem quitting drugs; it was staying quit that always appeared to trip me up. the 12 step program of recovery offered a solution to learn to live life on life's terms without having to pick up again.
i hope something i have said has helped you and i pray you will reach out and get the face to face support you need.
i'm sending you much love and encouragement as you start your journey of healing. you are so worthwhile, my friend and like most things of worth, it is going to take some work on your part.
please write more. i need you here.
namaste'
sammy
this feeling that you are experiencing while detoxing is not going to last forever, although at this point it may feel so. as well intentioned as the suggestions you are receiving online, it's best to find a doctor who specializes in addiction medicine to monitor your detox.
there are so many things that can go awry when we detox. our past medical history, co-morbidities, or any other medications we may be taking (non addicting) come into play here too. i can only speak for myself but i was never one to volunteer all of the pharmacological agents that i was addicted to. at the height of my addiction, your drug was my drug and it really didn't matter what the drug was, as long as it took me out of me, i abused it. i filled an entire page of prescribed and otc medications that i was using when i went to detox. stuff that i never considered because it wasn't my drug of choice. although this may not the circumstance with you, i needed the help of professionals who knew a little more about detox than i did to prompt my memory about the drugs i abused.
if going inpatient is out of the question, i suggest you check with your local community mental health and substance abuse agency. there are psychiatrists, social workers and entire team who can assess you properly and most of these places will work with you on a sliding scale according to your income.
the substance abuse facility for the city i live in has funds set aside for people who require inpatient detox and cannot afford to go on their own. perhaps, they do in your community too. the bottom line is that you remain physically safe while detoxing. physical safety is of utmost importance.
additionally, when seeking help from these professionals and going inpatient, it put a distance between me and the drugs. i needed this because i had this uncanny way of justifying, minimizing, and rationalizing (rational-lies) using drugs again. i would amass about 5 or 6 days of clean time under my belt and could convince myself that i was not an addict - say silly stuff like "see sammy, if you were an addict you would not have gone 5 days without using" or then there was the "see - you can go 5 or 6 days without using, therefore you deserve to be able to use on weekends or a few days out of the week." blah blah blah - controlled using never proved successful to this addict because as it turned out, one pill was always too many and one thousand was never enough.
the other point of interest that consulting with medical professionals is that this was my first introduction to the 12 step program of recovery. i never had a problem quitting drugs; it was staying quit that always appeared to trip me up. the 12 step program of recovery offered a solution to learn to live life on life's terms without having to pick up again.
i hope something i have said has helped you and i pray you will reach out and get the face to face support you need.
i'm sending you much love and encouragement as you start your journey of healing. you are so worthwhile, my friend and like most things of worth, it is going to take some work on your part.
please write more. i need you here.
namaste'
sammy