Carrie and August -
Even though off topic I think this is very important. I have had a recent scare and have an appt for a mammogram and sonogram on the 16th. I found 2 small lumps under my left arm(pit). Also - when I had a throat infection a couple of weeks ago, seemed that the left side was very swollen. This scares me because I lost a cousin a couple of years ago to lymphoma. I always think of the worst case scenario - hope that its me being a hypocondriac (sp?).
God bless,
Marie
I just read Lady M's post that was locked and although I know it was with only good intentions on her part to provide help for people, one little thing was over looked..donating bonemarrow hurts. Like hell. Would require pain meds. Kind of an oxy moron for this board... so yes, StaceySometimes...you had a good point.
Cowgirl
Cowgirl
I just read that the thread that got locked...
although I agree in some small degree with the point that cowgirl makes on behave of Stacy {what ever or sometimes....} the way in which it was made (and I am sorry I dont feel like for one minute that was the real point that was being made..) sort of ilitist and well just not really the most compassionate post I have ever read.... I was sadden.
As far as the issue of it being painful so isnt giving birth or getting teeth or even going to the denist but just because we are addicts we dont shy away from these things. It is an abstical that others may not have to deal with but be that as it may... just my two cents...
Carrie... your post didnt bother me at all and it took quite a bit of courage to post it... our lives as addicts are not just about using or not using drugs . .. it often is about real life issues and sharing about them. Bone marrow issue certainly falls into that category. If those on here dont wish to read such a post they should have skipped it... You wrote it in such a way to let the reader know in the first two sentences if not in the subject line what the post subject matter was about...
again just my two cents..
Love and peace to you all...
Teresa
although I agree in some small degree with the point that cowgirl makes on behave of Stacy {what ever or sometimes....} the way in which it was made (and I am sorry I dont feel like for one minute that was the real point that was being made..) sort of ilitist and well just not really the most compassionate post I have ever read.... I was sadden.
As far as the issue of it being painful so isnt giving birth or getting teeth or even going to the denist but just because we are addicts we dont shy away from these things. It is an abstical that others may not have to deal with but be that as it may... just my two cents...
Carrie... your post didnt bother me at all and it took quite a bit of courage to post it... our lives as addicts are not just about using or not using drugs . .. it often is about real life issues and sharing about them. Bone marrow issue certainly falls into that category. If those on here dont wish to read such a post they should have skipped it... You wrote it in such a way to let the reader know in the first two sentences if not in the subject line what the post subject matter was about...
again just my two cents..
Love and peace to you all...
Teresa
Carrie,
I just wanted to post real quick in support to let you know your post didn't bother me either. The problem is when someone doesn't agree they should just let it go. Theres no need for name calling. Anyway, I think it's sometimes needed to bring things to peoples attention that most of us don't think about normally.
Take care....................................God bless.........................................Bob
I just wanted to post real quick in support to let you know your post didn't bother me either. The problem is when someone doesn't agree they should just let it go. Theres no need for name calling. Anyway, I think it's sometimes needed to bring things to peoples attention that most of us don't think about normally.
Take care....................................God bless.........................................Bob
Well, the post got locked because I let go with a lot of fury on that thread. The moderators were kind enough to delete my last post when they locked the thread.
Perhaps it is my southern sensibilities, but I get deeply offended when people behave rudely, particularly when the vitriol is directed at someone who needs positive energy and support during difficult medical treatments. While addiction is a disease of self centeredness and myopia, it should not be an excuse to be bereft of compassion and empathy. Of the 4 posts that this person has posted, all have been somewhat inflammatory, one has been deleted by the moderator, two were locked out last night. It is pretty clear to me that this person's post was intended to stir up trouble. While she may beleive that her opinion is equal to mine, I will give it all the weight it oh, so richly deserves. It is not only what you say, but how you say it.
I have had bone marrow asperated and while it is not the most pleasant exeperience in the world, it can be done without pain meds, though I would highly recomend a local. I did it and I am still alive to talk about it. The addictive personality is largely about pain avoidance. Pain is rarely all that it is chalked up to, and the fear of it is often worst than the reality. I have been more sore after a hard day pumping iron in the gym.
Marie, you hang in there. A cancer scare is truly terrifying, and we tend to engraft upon it the experiences that we were closest to. When we have lost someone to cancer (I was in the midst of losing a dear friend to leukemia even as I was being diagnosed) we transfer all of that fear over to our personal circumstance. It is important to understand that cancer is a broad term that includes an entire host of ailments. No two cases are exactly alike, and it is unwise to make broad generalizations.
My oncologist works with a breast cancer specialist and I know many, many survivors. Even with a worse case scenario, you can get through this and you can survive it. Just look at John Edwards's wife--her type of cancer has a projected survival rate of 87%. Look for the positives amidst the fear.
The worst phase is the initial one, where so much of it is "hurry up and wait." Fear runs rampant while you wait to see if your entire life is going to be upended by treatments. FWIW, working the steps can really help.
I will close by saying that I initially located this board in December of 2003 and posted something about my concerns about pain med use and cancer treatments. No one on this board responded to my post, at all. Two months later in early February 2004, I took the approach of trying to fill that vacuum myself, with a focus toward trying to understand the complexities of pain med use and cancer treatments. I am fairly committed to that aspect of the addiction issue and I believe that it is as relevant as those aspect that relate to more recreational uses of the the meds.
Marie, good luck and let me know how your diagnostic procedures go. So long as I am present on this board, you can count on my support.
August
Perhaps it is my southern sensibilities, but I get deeply offended when people behave rudely, particularly when the vitriol is directed at someone who needs positive energy and support during difficult medical treatments. While addiction is a disease of self centeredness and myopia, it should not be an excuse to be bereft of compassion and empathy. Of the 4 posts that this person has posted, all have been somewhat inflammatory, one has been deleted by the moderator, two were locked out last night. It is pretty clear to me that this person's post was intended to stir up trouble. While she may beleive that her opinion is equal to mine, I will give it all the weight it oh, so richly deserves. It is not only what you say, but how you say it.
I have had bone marrow asperated and while it is not the most pleasant exeperience in the world, it can be done without pain meds, though I would highly recomend a local. I did it and I am still alive to talk about it. The addictive personality is largely about pain avoidance. Pain is rarely all that it is chalked up to, and the fear of it is often worst than the reality. I have been more sore after a hard day pumping iron in the gym.
Marie, you hang in there. A cancer scare is truly terrifying, and we tend to engraft upon it the experiences that we were closest to. When we have lost someone to cancer (I was in the midst of losing a dear friend to leukemia even as I was being diagnosed) we transfer all of that fear over to our personal circumstance. It is important to understand that cancer is a broad term that includes an entire host of ailments. No two cases are exactly alike, and it is unwise to make broad generalizations.
My oncologist works with a breast cancer specialist and I know many, many survivors. Even with a worse case scenario, you can get through this and you can survive it. Just look at John Edwards's wife--her type of cancer has a projected survival rate of 87%. Look for the positives amidst the fear.
The worst phase is the initial one, where so much of it is "hurry up and wait." Fear runs rampant while you wait to see if your entire life is going to be upended by treatments. FWIW, working the steps can really help.
I will close by saying that I initially located this board in December of 2003 and posted something about my concerns about pain med use and cancer treatments. No one on this board responded to my post, at all. Two months later in early February 2004, I took the approach of trying to fill that vacuum myself, with a focus toward trying to understand the complexities of pain med use and cancer treatments. I am fairly committed to that aspect of the addiction issue and I believe that it is as relevant as those aspect that relate to more recreational uses of the the meds.
Marie, good luck and let me know how your diagnostic procedures go. So long as I am present on this board, you can count on my support.
August
Hello August,
I'm sorry but to think you had a post deleted made me laugh. lol Nice to see you, I hope your doing well and I agree with your above post 100%. Have a great day, I'll talk with you soon. I've been feeling a little under the weather, upset stomache, headache etc.. Feeling a bit better today, see ya' later.
Take care..................................God bless........................................Bob
I'm sorry but to think you had a post deleted made me laugh. lol Nice to see you, I hope your doing well and I agree with your above post 100%. Have a great day, I'll talk with you soon. I've been feeling a little under the weather, upset stomache, headache etc.. Feeling a bit better today, see ya' later.
Take care..................................God bless........................................Bob
I wasn't going to post under this thread because of how it would be perceived, but sometimes you have to leave things that happened in the past and speak out.
As most of my friends know, past ones and present ones, I have a big family history of cancer. 3 brothers (2 of which I lost) and 3 sisters (one of which I lost) and my Mother and Father. My father died when I was 6. The rest of the family has this hanging over our heads all the times, just waiting to be given the same news. I take cancer very seriously, it is not a joke. And with that said, I feel that we should all do our part to help others, such as giving blood, platelets, and bone marrow. You never know when you or one of your family may need a donation of these. If you can help just one person wouldn't that be worth the pain that you may go thru. And like August said, they will use a local so the paing will be diminished. You really shouldn't feel pain at all.
And as far as this subject being off topic, I disagree. WE help people here, that is the goal. If we can save just one addict with our advice, why not take it a step further and help someone with cancer. Cancer is like drug addiction, it does not discriminate, doesn't care if you are a Big Joeblow or just one of the little people like us. I urge everyone to do what they can to fight this disease.
Cowgirl, I also see your point very clearly.
Thanks for listening to me, as you can see it is a very personal subject.
God bless,
As most of my friends know, past ones and present ones, I have a big family history of cancer. 3 brothers (2 of which I lost) and 3 sisters (one of which I lost) and my Mother and Father. My father died when I was 6. The rest of the family has this hanging over our heads all the times, just waiting to be given the same news. I take cancer very seriously, it is not a joke. And with that said, I feel that we should all do our part to help others, such as giving blood, platelets, and bone marrow. You never know when you or one of your family may need a donation of these. If you can help just one person wouldn't that be worth the pain that you may go thru. And like August said, they will use a local so the paing will be diminished. You really shouldn't feel pain at all.
And as far as this subject being off topic, I disagree. WE help people here, that is the goal. If we can save just one addict with our advice, why not take it a step further and help someone with cancer. Cancer is like drug addiction, it does not discriminate, doesn't care if you are a Big Joeblow or just one of the little people like us. I urge everyone to do what they can to fight this disease.
Cowgirl, I also see your point very clearly.
Thanks for listening to me, as you can see it is a very personal subject.
God bless,
As a health care professional I have taken care of countless patients with cancer in the past. I was deeply saddened by the insensitive post which was made in reference to Carrie's good intentions...........Bone marrow transplants have helped many people fight the disease of cancer.......There is nothing wrong with getting the word out on this procedure. This information my just save someone's life..........
God Bless, Rus
God Bless, Rus
Hi,
Well, for Cowgirl to say Stacy had a good point with her post, when saying, "I thought this was a recovery board not a body part donation board", I don't see how that was taken as a good point. I think it was a rude post on Stacy's part,
and not a very thoughtful post on Cowgirls part. Just my opinion, guess I'll be slammed but oh well. Like Sharon I've had alot of deaths by cancer in my family as well and friends, so I think Carries post was thoughtful, well meant and loving,
especially with all that shes going through at this time.
Take care......................................God bless......................................Bob
Well, for Cowgirl to say Stacy had a good point with her post, when saying, "I thought this was a recovery board not a body part donation board", I don't see how that was taken as a good point. I think it was a rude post on Stacy's part,
and not a very thoughtful post on Cowgirls part. Just my opinion, guess I'll be slammed but oh well. Like Sharon I've had alot of deaths by cancer in my family as well and friends, so I think Carries post was thoughtful, well meant and loving,
especially with all that shes going through at this time.
Take care......................................God bless......................................Bob
Well, you all know my history with cancer and it is without question a tender spot with me. When I was facing cancer, I found that I transferred a lot of my fears regarding cancer to my pain med use. This was borne of the fact that I had some control over the use of the meds but no control over the cancer.
This board really helped me place those mixed feelings in perspective and it helped me approach my pain med use in a pragmatic manner relative to the twin goals of aggressively fighting my cancer and coping with the resultant pain, and avoiding slipping over the edge of the precipice into active addiction.
Sharon, I am looking forward to a huge celebration this December 12th and similar ones for Bob, Gina and Cowgirl soon thereafter. I went back and looked at some of your posts around 90 days Sharon, and I plan to share them with others on Dec 12 to demonstrate how some of us come right up to brink and then decide not to use and to live sober. Speak now if this would embarass you.
I thank all of you for your support, not only on this thread but in the months that have passed since I began frequenting this board. Each of you has helped save my life, and I hope that others will be able to benefit from the experience we are all gaining here.
BTW, it is a bit of a stretch to refer to bone marrow donation as "body part donation." No one is asking for something that a healthy person does not replenish naturally.
Thanks again,
August
This board really helped me place those mixed feelings in perspective and it helped me approach my pain med use in a pragmatic manner relative to the twin goals of aggressively fighting my cancer and coping with the resultant pain, and avoiding slipping over the edge of the precipice into active addiction.
Sharon, I am looking forward to a huge celebration this December 12th and similar ones for Bob, Gina and Cowgirl soon thereafter. I went back and looked at some of your posts around 90 days Sharon, and I plan to share them with others on Dec 12 to demonstrate how some of us come right up to brink and then decide not to use and to live sober. Speak now if this would embarass you.
I thank all of you for your support, not only on this thread but in the months that have passed since I began frequenting this board. Each of you has helped save my life, and I hope that others will be able to benefit from the experience we are all gaining here.
BTW, it is a bit of a stretch to refer to bone marrow donation as "body part donation." No one is asking for something that a healthy person does not replenish naturally.
Thanks again,
August
Ok guys..I guess I should have waited to throw my 2 cents in AFTER I had a cup of coffee this morning. I didn't explain my view very well and for that I apologize. In no way did I think that Stacey wasn't rude, I guess I was just trying to get around that without starting something with this person. I feel that like Carrie, this person is hurting as well and we all know that in active addiction or early withdrawal, we lash out and don't always say things the way we mean them. None of us are perfect, no matter how long we've been clean or how long we've been on this board. I say some pretty dumb things. But like a dear friend pointed out to me this morning... we are faceless on this board and can't see eachothers faces while writing. We don't see expressions which can speak a thousand words in one look.
With that said... MY point to the post was this... anything that requires ANYTHING to do with doctors or surgery is a huge trigger for me. I would questions my motives about giving bone marrow because for me it would be an excuse to use and milk it for all it was worth. I have questioned every surgery I have had... I don't know how many were necessary and how many I made into a crisis just so I could get meds. I'm being honest with myself these days and this is something that comes up. With that said..I meant no disrespect to Carrie and her situation. While I don't have the degree of health issues that she has, I have my own crap to deal with. So in a way I know where she's coming from.
It's important to me that you all understand what I mean, so please let me know if I need to explain myself further....
Hope all of a great day..
Cowgirl
Bob and David... I depend on you guys to call me on my bulls***..it got me clean and keeps me clean...please don't p**** foot around me.
With that said... MY point to the post was this... anything that requires ANYTHING to do with doctors or surgery is a huge trigger for me. I would questions my motives about giving bone marrow because for me it would be an excuse to use and milk it for all it was worth. I have questioned every surgery I have had... I don't know how many were necessary and how many I made into a crisis just so I could get meds. I'm being honest with myself these days and this is something that comes up. With that said..I meant no disrespect to Carrie and her situation. While I don't have the degree of health issues that she has, I have my own crap to deal with. So in a way I know where she's coming from.
It's important to me that you all understand what I mean, so please let me know if I need to explain myself further....
Hope all of a great day..
Cowgirl
Bob and David... I depend on you guys to call me on my bulls***..it got me clean and keeps me clean...please don't p**** foot around me.
Thanks August for your kind words. My year after I got 6 months clean has flown by. You can post anything you want of mine, I've embarrassed myself too many times on this board to be embarrassed by what you would post.
Love and best wishes,
Love and best wishes,
Cowgirl, I think we all agree that the process of sorting out one's motives in connection with any procedure is very important.
As for how healthy any of us are, if you would have seen the post that was deleted, you would know that I certainly have my anger issues around certain types of behaviour. I noticed that the thread was closed when I returned 20 minutes later to delete that post.
All the best,
August
As for how healthy any of us are, if you would have seen the post that was deleted, you would know that I certainly have my anger issues around certain types of behaviour. I noticed that the thread was closed when I returned 20 minutes later to delete that post.
All the best,
August
Cowgirl,
Hi and ya' know I love ya'. I like the way you usually shoot from the hip. I just didn't agree with the post that Stacy first made to Carrie. Anyway, your an important part of my recovery as well, and thankyou for not seeing what I said as an "attack" on you, I was a little worried thats how it would be taken. I too, like you, would have used any excuse to milk a pain issue for meds. It is a scary thing when the meds that are sometimes needed, happen to be our drug of choice as well. That means in some cases that what ever someone does to stay clean, if meds are involved in some way it's necessary to double up on our recovery, by staying accountable, having someone else hold the meds, double up on meetings, sponsor conversations etc... Thanks for your post, I hope your feeling ok these days. Talk to ya' soon.
Take care....................................God bless........................................Bob
Hi and ya' know I love ya'. I like the way you usually shoot from the hip. I just didn't agree with the post that Stacy first made to Carrie. Anyway, your an important part of my recovery as well, and thankyou for not seeing what I said as an "attack" on you, I was a little worried thats how it would be taken. I too, like you, would have used any excuse to milk a pain issue for meds. It is a scary thing when the meds that are sometimes needed, happen to be our drug of choice as well. That means in some cases that what ever someone does to stay clean, if meds are involved in some way it's necessary to double up on our recovery, by staying accountable, having someone else hold the meds, double up on meetings, sponsor conversations etc... Thanks for your post, I hope your feeling ok these days. Talk to ya' soon.
Take care....................................God bless........................................Bob
To all,
I am sooo proud of this thread.... I hope all who lurk here and read can not just see this issue that has been debated but look deeper into the some of the recovery that has taken place and that has been exhibited here.
A few short weeks ago this thread might have turned into a flame war or hurt feelings but because these wonderful recovering addicts can look outside themselves and inside themselves, today we work a little harder not to take offense as quickly. If something(s) gets said in haste being welling to offer to explain a position without harsh words or attacks, this might have been the fruits of the last few weeks of all the pain and transition this board has seen. This is growth my friends and it does wonders for my recovery and offers hope to me as well. I hope this wonderful maturity and humanity can continue and spread to others.
I know that I have a lot of work to do to reach to ultimate level that I want to be and staying teachable is the cornerstone of reaching those goals... I learn a new perspective from almost everyone that I come incontact with here... Thank you all.
Teresa
I am sooo proud of this thread.... I hope all who lurk here and read can not just see this issue that has been debated but look deeper into the some of the recovery that has taken place and that has been exhibited here.
A few short weeks ago this thread might have turned into a flame war or hurt feelings but because these wonderful recovering addicts can look outside themselves and inside themselves, today we work a little harder not to take offense as quickly. If something(s) gets said in haste being welling to offer to explain a position without harsh words or attacks, this might have been the fruits of the last few weeks of all the pain and transition this board has seen. This is growth my friends and it does wonders for my recovery and offers hope to me as well. I hope this wonderful maturity and humanity can continue and spread to others.
I know that I have a lot of work to do to reach to ultimate level that I want to be and staying teachable is the cornerstone of reaching those goals... I learn a new perspective from almost everyone that I come incontact with here... Thank you all.
Teresa
Well,
Wow is all I can say. I was going to pop in and apologize for this getting so far out of hand when I continued to read on and saw what truely wonderful opinions and the level of feelings that have rolled through here. This post is wonderful for many reasons to me now.
The first is that the message whether or not it is agreed with is OUT THERE! Being discussed. Good or Bad, it does not matter to me, and that is because at least it is being talked about.
The second is that I have seen the names of so many people on here, who I would have never believed would even say two words to anything I posted, make a comment here. I want EVERYONE WHO HAS MADE A POST TO KNOW THAT I THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART! It touched me that people care enough about this subject to put other things away, if even for a moment. It warmed my heart, and it may not have been said to warm my heart, but it did.
August, my brother, I love you with all my heart. You have been one hell of a friend to have in my corner, and I thank you for what you did. This is a close subject to us, and I know that you have seen what I have, the people who are suffering, and WAITING! Waiting for that one person who would be a match. It is hard to watch, and it makes you want to be able to find someone suffering a match tomorrow. That is what I was trying to do here. I love ya! BTW thanks for mentioning the platelets. That is another thing that is important as well!
Bob and Gina, I always send you out my big ole smooches, you are always there to lend me a shoulder, or an ear. I would be lost without you as my friends and family. Thanks for the back up here Bob, you are always there when I need you both!
Marie, I am here for you if you need to talk. The waiting process is the hardest part, and trust me, I know. Don't ever think you are imagining, or being a hypochondriac, it is better to be safe than sorry sister! Early detection is the key! My prayers are coming your way.
Teresa, thank you for your words and your kindness. You have been a great friend to me through all I have been through. You have been there with a smile, a sweet word or two, and some prayers, all of which I value.
Rus, thanks for noticing that I am just working for the good intentions of others. I got lucky and have two who match. I was getting ready to have my transfer done the 17th, but have a hold up at this time. You are right, this can save a life maybe, and that is why I posted it.
Cowgirl, you are right on the fact that it can be pretty darned uncomfortable. I have learned that all good things are not without some kind of soreness. It can be that way, but trust me when I say that they will do whatever they can to make it as comfortable as possible. When I was checked, I was sore for two days, but it was livable. I know you are going through your own hell, and I would love it if you would send me some of the info on what stuff you are taking to help with yours. I am always on the look out for new treatments in the cancer realm. Hope all is well with you.
Sharon, I do know that you have played hell with this disease in your life, and family, and I do appreciate you speaking out on behalf of the donations. You know how much it is needed, and what a life safer it can be. Thanks again for your input.
I do hope that I have mentioned everyone here. If I missed any, please know that I do love you for speaking out. My your lives be filled with joy and happiness. You all deserve it! God Bless!
Huggles
Carrie
Wow is all I can say. I was going to pop in and apologize for this getting so far out of hand when I continued to read on and saw what truely wonderful opinions and the level of feelings that have rolled through here. This post is wonderful for many reasons to me now.
The first is that the message whether or not it is agreed with is OUT THERE! Being discussed. Good or Bad, it does not matter to me, and that is because at least it is being talked about.
The second is that I have seen the names of so many people on here, who I would have never believed would even say two words to anything I posted, make a comment here. I want EVERYONE WHO HAS MADE A POST TO KNOW THAT I THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART! It touched me that people care enough about this subject to put other things away, if even for a moment. It warmed my heart, and it may not have been said to warm my heart, but it did.
August, my brother, I love you with all my heart. You have been one hell of a friend to have in my corner, and I thank you for what you did. This is a close subject to us, and I know that you have seen what I have, the people who are suffering, and WAITING! Waiting for that one person who would be a match. It is hard to watch, and it makes you want to be able to find someone suffering a match tomorrow. That is what I was trying to do here. I love ya! BTW thanks for mentioning the platelets. That is another thing that is important as well!
Bob and Gina, I always send you out my big ole smooches, you are always there to lend me a shoulder, or an ear. I would be lost without you as my friends and family. Thanks for the back up here Bob, you are always there when I need you both!
Marie, I am here for you if you need to talk. The waiting process is the hardest part, and trust me, I know. Don't ever think you are imagining, or being a hypochondriac, it is better to be safe than sorry sister! Early detection is the key! My prayers are coming your way.
Teresa, thank you for your words and your kindness. You have been a great friend to me through all I have been through. You have been there with a smile, a sweet word or two, and some prayers, all of which I value.
Rus, thanks for noticing that I am just working for the good intentions of others. I got lucky and have two who match. I was getting ready to have my transfer done the 17th, but have a hold up at this time. You are right, this can save a life maybe, and that is why I posted it.
Cowgirl, you are right on the fact that it can be pretty darned uncomfortable. I have learned that all good things are not without some kind of soreness. It can be that way, but trust me when I say that they will do whatever they can to make it as comfortable as possible. When I was checked, I was sore for two days, but it was livable. I know you are going through your own hell, and I would love it if you would send me some of the info on what stuff you are taking to help with yours. I am always on the look out for new treatments in the cancer realm. Hope all is well with you.
Sharon, I do know that you have played hell with this disease in your life, and family, and I do appreciate you speaking out on behalf of the donations. You know how much it is needed, and what a life safer it can be. Thanks again for your input.
I do hope that I have mentioned everyone here. If I missed any, please know that I do love you for speaking out. My your lives be filled with joy and happiness. You all deserve it! God Bless!
Huggles
Carrie
It is very cool that this thread has gone the way it has..respect is so important. We haven't respected oursleves for so long and to learn to respect others is all part of this little carnival we call recovery.
I do understand what was said but I'm sticking to my guns on this one.. anything that puts an addict in pain on purpose isn't a good idea. We shouldn't choose elective surgeries either, at least until you have quiet a bit of clean time and a good strong recovery program that you are actively working. Yes, there are safe guards to prevent relapse, but just getting a taste of painpills and it's all over for me..I'm off and running. I feel that there are enough "normies" out there that can donate bone marrow without us addicts having to do it and put our recovery and clean time in jepordy. Of course (I knew this question would come up), if it was a family member such a child, that needed that bone marrow, then I would do it in a heart beat. If that sounds callous, I'm sorry. It's not that I don't care about strangers, it's that I care more about my family and they need a clean and sober mom.
Cowgirl
I do understand what was said but I'm sticking to my guns on this one.. anything that puts an addict in pain on purpose isn't a good idea. We shouldn't choose elective surgeries either, at least until you have quiet a bit of clean time and a good strong recovery program that you are actively working. Yes, there are safe guards to prevent relapse, but just getting a taste of painpills and it's all over for me..I'm off and running. I feel that there are enough "normies" out there that can donate bone marrow without us addicts having to do it and put our recovery and clean time in jepordy. Of course (I knew this question would come up), if it was a family member such a child, that needed that bone marrow, then I would do it in a heart beat. If that sounds callous, I'm sorry. It's not that I don't care about strangers, it's that I care more about my family and they need a clean and sober mom.
Cowgirl
Hi everyone, I really enjoyed this thread. Nice to see everyone's point of view without the spats. It's so cool. I think for me personally, I'm not in a position to donate bone marrow at this time. I think it's a noble thing to do, though. Where I'm at in my recovery, I just don't feel comfortable doing anything that would cause me to have to take a narcotic. I'm afraid that with one taste, I'd be off and running. I would not hesitate to take this chance for the sake of family or friends, but I have to put my recovery and my family over strangers. I hope that doesn't come off as selfish. My kids need a straight mom and I feel like they're my first responsiblity. I hope one day, later on down the road, when I have more clean time, I too will be able to do things like this. Much love, Kat
Hey Kat..looks like we were posting our last posts at the same time. Glad to know that I'm not the only one that feels that way..
Love you girlie
Cowgirl
Love you girlie
Cowgirl
Hey girl, I was a little hesitant to post. I know what a nice thing this would be to do. I thought though, if you were brave enough to give your opinion, I should too since I agreed. Whether a person decides to do it or not, they can at least consider all sides. And hopefully one day, all of us recovering addicts here will be able to show such courage!! I won't forget about this though, and perhaps will consider it in a few months. For all the people who are going to do it or have done it, I'd love to hear about it and how you managed the challenge. Maybe you could set an example. Nite all, much love, Kat
