Sos...sos...

hi and help... day 4 off the weed and i'm in a bad way. is it possible to have physical withdrawls? can the chemicals in the weed these days induce this, do you think? i.e. vomiting and other bathroom related woes? i'm also having panic attacks and depression...(which i am prone to and take meds for) i didn't sleep much last night, technicolor disturbing dreams and whatever sleep i had was like twighlight sleep, every sound woke and annoyed me. i took my daughter to school this morning and i have been sitting here crying since...
then my mother called to tell me the doctor found a mass in her lung. my father died last month. not a good time for me.... i feel so self aborbed and then realize that's what 'this' is all about.

any thoughts suggestions will help....
thanks.
jane
Jane,

I am sorry to hear your having a bad day. Yes I too experiance an upset stomach and other woes while trying to stay away from pot. I just don't have an appetite anymore and I feel naseous around food but hey I figure I could lose a few pounds anyway. I know things are never that easy especially at such a trying time as you are experiencing now and I commend you on moving forward with your sobriety. Hang in there we are all fighting the same fight. If you are prone to depression just remind yourself of all the good things you are doing for your family by trying to stay clean. Think positive things about your daughter, write inspirational things down and tape them where you need them. One other trick I've been using ALOT is I just sit down and sing my heart out. It feels so good to sing with a clear voice and uplifts my spirit in ways I never thought possible. Even if you don't think you sound good just concentrate on how good it feels to sing with no throat hoarseness. I pray for your mom and the rest of your family too but most of all I pray for you. Sending all my warmest wishes.
Me
thanks AEA... your words are so comforting and warm... so good to know i'm not alone in this...i've been reading and following your posts, you are doing so well!
i've stopped weed many times (been hooked for almost 20 years) but never stopped with this kind of sense of wanting to/needing to for me and my family (my husband doesn't know about it- a long stupid secret story) ... and yet i never have had the physical side effects before... just the dreams that freak me out to begin with and also have kept me from staying clean in the past. yet this time i am ready to face the dreams but i feel like i'm falling apart. no i am falling apart. in the past i would have just called my weed dude but today i turned to this board. you have truly helped me.
do you think the nausea is upset or the chemicals or both?
hang in there, you are an inspiration to me.
jane
Jane,

I truly think we have used pot so long that we need it to feel hungry. We will have to relearn how to trust our bodies and listen to its signals but I'm hoping to lose 15 lbs in the process.LOL I know this isn't a laughing matter. Actually I must confess that I did take a hit a few days ago , it was just one and I felt so freakin guilty and dirty and I started coughing immediately and then wondered what the hell am I doing so I Threw the stupid pop can away and i searched for every last little roach so I wouldn't be tempted again. I also bought a ton of candles and good smelling stuff so I can enjoy nice smells and remember that I HATE the way bud smells. Its working for me this time and I'm really not sure why except for the fact that I guess I really made up my mind this time. Before I would have been right back to smoking everyday cause I would beat myself up about slipping but there is a slip and then there is going completely back into it all . I am not using my weakness as an excuse to go back to using this time. I hope you are feeling alittle better and I must prescribe ginger snaps for your stomach. I've been living on them for the past 3 days. wishing you all the best,
Me
Jane, what you are describing sounds pretty par for the course for stopping pot. I am providing a link at the bottom of this post that discusses marijuana detox. You may be able to get some tips for relieving some of your symptoms there.

What I say next I offer as someone who has detoxed from marijuana, and more recently in connection with my cancer related ailments, from a synthetic opiate 50 times more addictive than morphine: Yes, you are going to be uncomfortable. Sleep may be difficult for a while and the dreams are likely to be bizarre. You are going to go on an emotional roller coaster. If you remain committed to getting clean, your discomfort will eventually pass. If, however, you waver and cave to the desire to smoke, you will eventually find yourself right back in this state of discomfort, and if you are like me, you will return there again and again and again as you repeatedly cycle between a desire to stop and the craving to use.

You might search with every fiber of your being for an excuse to smoke marijuana: my timing is bad due to my parents health problem; I do not want to visit my problems on my child, I cannot afford the lack of stability due to my hectic work schedule. You will find that any of these explanations are plausible reasons to resume your smoking. I also promise you that a similar set of rationalizations will be awaiting you the next time you choose to quit, and the time after that.

If there was any doubt in your mind as to whether you are dependent on marijuana, your current state of emotional and physical discomfort should offer a very clear answer. It is the nature drug dependency, addiction, if you will, that there is never a convenient time to cease our use and turn our lives on end. There will always be a plausible reason to use. This is one reason why most people drift on, year after year, steeped in their dependency, often working hard to convince themselves that they do not have a problem, that everyone uses it, that their personal circumstances are such that they deserve to use, or need to use. This is the nature of our disease.

Reaching a decision stop takes a lot of courage. It takes an acknowledgement that the pot is no longer working well in our lives. I am sure that you will agree that there is a price to be paid for the years of comfort that we enjoyed with the pot. Following through on the desire to quit takes an enormous amount of commitment, and it is especially tough when you realize that it only takes a moment of wavering from ones commitment to slip. It only takes a simple thought, doing it just one more time will not hurt, to obliterate our commitment and essentially return to square one.

The good news is that you will survive your current discomfort and there is a time when you will feel much better than you have in years. To reach that point, it is imperative that you remain steadfast in your commitment to end your dependency. For me, I had to seek help, but each of us must journey this path in his or her own way.

Good luck, hang in there, and let us know how you are doing.

August

http://www.marijuana-anonymous.org/...ages/detox.html
bless you august west!
all day i had you in mind of an example of what can be if one sticks to a plan - yes i know about the bad timing thing. at the age of 47 (as you are too, i believe) i know all too well that timing is never good."if it's not one thing it's another" i'm being careful of that. careful of everything. i hate what i've done to myself and look forward to what a change will bring. i'm just so uncomfortable and depressed. hard to look onward when i feel so blue....
thank you again and again.
and i'll check out the link too.
hold onto your hat but i even checked out where the marijuana annon. meetings are here.
peace-
jane
Good for you, Jane!

Rubie just went through this. I think she around 100 days clean now. She is much younger than us, and as you might suspect, it only gets harder to clean up our act as we get older, but she might be able to offer you some insight as to how long her mood swings were in play before they evened out.

Good luck, let us know how you are doing.


August
august,
yes i've been following rubie's posts... i'll ask her tonight. but now i must run to pick up my daughter...
wondering how long (and i know it differs) the technicolor dreams lasted for you?
for me, it's just the worst. takes me the entire day to recover from them.
thanks for the support, i appreciate it.
jane
Jane, I detoxed from marijuana nearly fifteen years ago. I honestly do not remember too many specifics other than being quite miserable for about three weeks. After that, I began to enjoy some relief, primarily due to some things I was doing in AA. I had rough patches where I thought about relapsing at three months, six months, and nine months. After that, I realized that using again was not an option for me. Nonetheless, the process of growth and recovery from the damage I had done to my thinking (or more likely, the process of growing to maturity because I had spent my youth behind the barn getting stoned) continued for many years following that.

During my recent withdrawal from fentanyl, I tapered in stages for five weeks. The mood swings and dreams lasted about 4 or 6 weeks after I completely weaned the drugs out of my system. Depression lasted longer than that, but depression is also a side effect of chemo therapy, so it is difficult to draw comparisons.

Hope some of that helps.

August
august-
it does help, it all does.
cancer, chemo and detox you are amazing and i thank you for sharing your story and advice!
jane
ps. that link you gave me to m.a. is right on and explains why i feel soooo lousy to the letter! wow!
Jane, I know it is a platitude, but I urge you to take this One Day at a Time. It will get better, but you have to give your body time to work the THC out of your system, and then more time for your mind and body to adjust.

I suggest trying to stay active and busy. If you have too much time on your hands, well, that will lead to thinking, and you know what thinking can lead to :-)

Hang in there,

August
hi august, i'm so very tired after another bad night last night. i'm hoping for a better night tonight. i want you to know that your link to the detox page saved me. truly did. just knowing that all these symptons and woes are common and experienced by others was both a comfort and made me feel stronger and able to deal with it all a bit better. thank you.
hope all is well with you...
jane