I have been lurking on these boards for quite some time, and cannot believe the amount of comfort you feel at least knowing your not in this horrible addiction roller coaster alone.
I am 29 yrs old and am in the fight for my life from an opiate addiction that has ruled my life for 3 long years. My love for the drug hydrocodone began when I had my wisdom teeth removed ..............I remember I thought it was some wonderful "miracle" drug. Well, little did i know what destruction it would cause me or my family.
I began taking it very casually, sometimes one or two pills a week, if i needed the "energy" boost. Then, over a long period of time this use slowly escalated. I was in a car accident in 2003 which left me with metal rods surgically put in my right hand and that is when things began going out of control. I did not have pain that couldnt be controlled but I quickly learned after the accident how easy it was to obtain hydro's perc's etc. by saying the pain was way worse than it actaully was. (I can control it with OTC meds)
When I finally began taking so much of the hydro that there was no effect at all from it, just took it to feel human and barely that, I then finally talked "one" of the doctors into prescribing percocet. I became completely out of control so quickly with Oxy's. I could easily hit the 200mg a day mark ( I am only 120lbs.) and still think I needed more, I counted my pills contstantly and would literally not want to die and have SEVERE anxiety if I had to go to bed at night knowing I had nothing to take upon waking in the a.m.
I went to an impatient detox in 2004 voluntarily trying to stop, I was kept impatient for 5 days but left feeling like i really did not learn any coping skills or anything regarding how to "stay clean". I relapsed after 4 weeks.
I have tried to stop so many times, gone through the horrid withdrawls and anxiety only to find out as usual that I am my own worst enemy and would always end up using again. When I am not taking anything even after 3 weeks I still felt so abnormal and so horribly anxious that everytime I have given up and thought if i just take on pill I could feel normal for a little while.
I have finally come to the conclusion that I have to stop this, I have to win this battle or it will kill me or leave me somewhere I never want to be.
I have lost so much including myself to this addiction, and when i think of the pain i have cause my family it makes me feel physically ill. I have two young children whom I adore but who deserve a mommy who dosent need her pills just to get out of bed.
I have an appt. tomorrow afternoon with a suboxone doctor to begin treatment, they told me I would be a good candidate considering my many failures trying to quit on my own. The last three days I had been taking no pills at all except 3-4 darvocet a day, and I was in full blown withdrawl...................well today, I "found" (I used to hide my pills everywhere in the house) a few oxy10mg tabs, I was so miserable and could not even take a shower that tonight I have taken three. I am scared to death now and cannot believe myself because the dr. office told me to start the suboxone I needed to be in at least mild withdrawl. Does this mean I cant go to the appt? Will they send me home if I tell them the truth???? I know that by morning tomorrow I will already be in withdrawl but I guess i am afraid because I told the nurse all i had taken was the darvocets, and she said it was important to keep it that way until my visit. Once again I am so mad at myself. I want to get better, and it means everything to me to get to this appt tomorrow and at least start on the recovery road with suboxone and the help of NA.
Please if anyone has any insight or anything at all please post, I am awake and cant sleep because I am a nervous wreck about tomorrow.
Thanks for listening to me go on and on............and on.
Hi Jody,
I have been exactly where you are...and just wanted to die because I felt so hopeless. That's your disease talking...because there IS hope and you CAN change, but no one can do it but you. I have been on suboxone 2 years and am finally getting off of it. That carries it's own problems , but NOWHERE near as bad as getting off oxys. In fact, this is a "walk in the park" by comparison.
I'm glad you're starting sub., because your life will quickly attain a semblance of normalcy. I stopped neglecting everyone as soon as I started sub., and started feeling better about myself right away.
Now, though, it's time to get off these...and that's where I'm at now. Day 3 w/out suboxone..or anything else...and I feel....OK. Not great, not too bad either.
If I can do it, I know you can!
My very best wishes...and a prayer go your way!
S
I have been exactly where you are...and just wanted to die because I felt so hopeless. That's your disease talking...because there IS hope and you CAN change, but no one can do it but you. I have been on suboxone 2 years and am finally getting off of it. That carries it's own problems , but NOWHERE near as bad as getting off oxys. In fact, this is a "walk in the park" by comparison.
I'm glad you're starting sub., because your life will quickly attain a semblance of normalcy. I stopped neglecting everyone as soon as I started sub., and started feeling better about myself right away.
Now, though, it's time to get off these...and that's where I'm at now. Day 3 w/out suboxone..or anything else...and I feel....OK. Not great, not too bad either.
If I can do it, I know you can!
My very best wishes...and a prayer go your way!
S
Welcome Jody,
Welcome to the Board. Your story sounds alot like mine. Car accident and addiction to Oxycontins etc. I am running out the door, but wanted to say "hello". It sounds like you are doing the right thing. I have been on Suboxene for over 90 days. I have been able to get my life in control. I have seeked outside help. I have learned to deal with the pain. My life is so much better. It was the best decision I ever made. I began at a lower dose, then up to 20mg a day, now I have been able to taper down to almost 8mg a day, very little side efffects. I taper every 2 weeks, 2mg. Whatever works for you and your Dr., I wish you the very best. Keep posting with any questions or support you need. Take care, Best Wishes
Welcome to the Board. Your story sounds alot like mine. Car accident and addiction to Oxycontins etc. I am running out the door, but wanted to say "hello". It sounds like you are doing the right thing. I have been on Suboxene for over 90 days. I have been able to get my life in control. I have seeked outside help. I have learned to deal with the pain. My life is so much better. It was the best decision I ever made. I began at a lower dose, then up to 20mg a day, now I have been able to taper down to almost 8mg a day, very little side efffects. I taper every 2 weeks, 2mg. Whatever works for you and your Dr., I wish you the very best. Keep posting with any questions or support you need. Take care, Best Wishes
jody,
As long as you are in at least mild w/d's, you can start the Sub. If you are not yet into w/d's, then the Sub will put you there & you'll feel pretty crappy for a bit and then start to feel better later. If you ARE in w/d's when u take the first Sub, then you will start to feel better quickly - within 15 - 30 minutes.
My advise (as an experienced & knowledgable Sub user) is to take a very small dose of Sub to start - 2 mgs max - when you are in w/d - yawning, watery eyes, runny nose, stomach issues starting, etc
After the 2 mg dose, you should start to feel a little bit better or a lot better - then can take more as needed. If you start feeling a lot worse within the first 15 - 30 minutes, then DO NOT take any more Sub cause you were not yet in w/d's.
Sub is a very strong & powerful med - a little goes a long way!!!
It is also opposite of other opiates where taking more Sub will make you feel worse than taking less!!! It also has a ceiling of 16 - 24 mgs per day (32 mgs is the highest dosage the drug company says to use - though NO ONE should ever take 32 mgs/day!!!!)
Depening on how much, how long & what you are detoxing from, typically most can start with 8 - 12 mgs per day and drop down to 4 - 6 - 8 mgs/day within the first week & feel comfortable.
If used for less than 3 or 4 weeks, u won't get physically dependant on the Sub, but should still taper dosage to jump off.
If used for longer than a month, u need to do a slower taper to a very small amount before jumping.
Unfortunately, most Dr's giving Sub do not know enough about it and tend to give people too high of doses for too long, say that it is not addicting, there are no w/d's from Sub, etc, etc Subutex / Suboxone is fairly new in the US for treating opiate addiction. Dr only has to take an 8-hour on-line course to be able to script it. Very dangerous, considering that most people follow Dr instructions & can end up suffering cause the Dr does not know enough about this med to use it properly.
Sorry for the really long post, but wanted to share some info with you....
Also - please get f2f support such as NA/AA, counseling, etc - it makes a huge difference!!
Something I was told that stuck with me as it is very true:
"Getting clean is the easy part, it is STAYING clean that is so hard & takes work!!"
I hope some of this helps you....
Swizzle
As long as you are in at least mild w/d's, you can start the Sub. If you are not yet into w/d's, then the Sub will put you there & you'll feel pretty crappy for a bit and then start to feel better later. If you ARE in w/d's when u take the first Sub, then you will start to feel better quickly - within 15 - 30 minutes.
My advise (as an experienced & knowledgable Sub user) is to take a very small dose of Sub to start - 2 mgs max - when you are in w/d - yawning, watery eyes, runny nose, stomach issues starting, etc
After the 2 mg dose, you should start to feel a little bit better or a lot better - then can take more as needed. If you start feeling a lot worse within the first 15 - 30 minutes, then DO NOT take any more Sub cause you were not yet in w/d's.
Sub is a very strong & powerful med - a little goes a long way!!!
It is also opposite of other opiates where taking more Sub will make you feel worse than taking less!!! It also has a ceiling of 16 - 24 mgs per day (32 mgs is the highest dosage the drug company says to use - though NO ONE should ever take 32 mgs/day!!!!)
Depening on how much, how long & what you are detoxing from, typically most can start with 8 - 12 mgs per day and drop down to 4 - 6 - 8 mgs/day within the first week & feel comfortable.
If used for less than 3 or 4 weeks, u won't get physically dependant on the Sub, but should still taper dosage to jump off.
If used for longer than a month, u need to do a slower taper to a very small amount before jumping.
Unfortunately, most Dr's giving Sub do not know enough about it and tend to give people too high of doses for too long, say that it is not addicting, there are no w/d's from Sub, etc, etc Subutex / Suboxone is fairly new in the US for treating opiate addiction. Dr only has to take an 8-hour on-line course to be able to script it. Very dangerous, considering that most people follow Dr instructions & can end up suffering cause the Dr does not know enough about this med to use it properly.
Sorry for the really long post, but wanted to share some info with you....
Also - please get f2f support such as NA/AA, counseling, etc - it makes a huge difference!!
Something I was told that stuck with me as it is very true:
"Getting clean is the easy part, it is STAYING clean that is so hard & takes work!!"
I hope some of this helps you....
Swizzle
Hell,jodi
Welcome to the board.Im also a sub, user ...How long did yor doctor tell you to w/d?My doctor told me 24hours before appt. I like you used and i had 16 hours of w/ds..I took my last at 4pm than my appt was at 8am that morning .
I took my first dose at 9am.My sub. doctor asked me if i felt i needed to sat there and wait longer.He asked all these question like are you sweating ,hot then cold?is your stomach running?
Its was alot of the w/d sytoms questions.i know myself i would and alway in bad w/ds in 12 hours without my pain pills.But,this is just what i did and others will be here to help you with this as well.Many will have different responds to this question.Aslo i know ultracets is to help with the w/ds ......I used ultracet to go 2 months trying to get off DOC....They really helped......
I have a friend and she i had told her to ask if she could take the ultracets to help her through until her appt. he said it would be ok...So,she did and went in at 8 that next morning.Im not telling you to do what ive done.But, once you get on the suboxone you will feel like the old jody...Your life sounds alot like mine and many others here can relate with you very well.I have two kids and couldnt funtion until i got them in me at least 3.I have hurt my family so also.i look at my husband and wonder why he let me do all i have to hurt him like i have.He loves me very much im
just forture for him.Im
just happy i didnt end up out of the streets and w/o my kids ..I seen it happen so many times here.....And its like these woman dont care still running doing same damm crazy thing to get the pain pills.
.I have done some of the crazy things but,have not slept with anyone to get them.I hope you the best and please keep posting.When you do get on your sub. come back and post how you are doing.Many here can be really good suport....
Good luck,crystal
Hellcat,good to see you again,i havent been on much these past two days.ive got to leave in a few also.my husband has a doctors appt.he is so scared of a doctor.keeps saying they better not say put a gown on or bring out a neddle.lol.He has been to the doctor but,2 maybe 3 times for a phyical for his CLD's/ or always JOB related.In the 18 years we been together.
Also,scared of a dentist and i think its just crazy.But,i wish i were like that or i wouldnt of gotten in this mess.he has good reason
to feel this way.,When he was little he had to wear a body cast and had alot of shots.....The dentist his mom use to take his cousin and his cousin would scream like they were killing her and then it would be his turn and he would
do the same thing.lol.So,i fight with him to go hes got a tooth thats been hurting for 6 months maybe longer.It
stops then starts back again.I couldnt stay like that in pain .......I see you have taken the jump to come off the sub.Thats great and your feeling ok.How did you come off with the weening ?Im on my 4mg mark still and i really im planing on comeing off after christmas.I going to try and find someone that will treat specializes an depression.I dont know what they are called if anyone can tell me what kind on doctor i need to look for?my family doctor can treat me all the 3 she has its made me scared to even try any others.Then,she hasnt
been really trying to
help me with it.Well,i gotta go get dressed before he gets in will be back later.I hope you feel better and better everyday off sub.keep me posted.crystal
Welcome to the board.Im also a sub, user ...How long did yor doctor tell you to w/d?My doctor told me 24hours before appt. I like you used and i had 16 hours of w/ds..I took my last at 4pm than my appt was at 8am that morning .
I took my first dose at 9am.My sub. doctor asked me if i felt i needed to sat there and wait longer.He asked all these question like are you sweating ,hot then cold?is your stomach running?
Its was alot of the w/d sytoms questions.i know myself i would and alway in bad w/ds in 12 hours without my pain pills.But,this is just what i did and others will be here to help you with this as well.Many will have different responds to this question.Aslo i know ultracets is to help with the w/ds ......I used ultracet to go 2 months trying to get off DOC....They really helped......
I have a friend and she i had told her to ask if she could take the ultracets to help her through until her appt. he said it would be ok...So,she did and went in at 8 that next morning.Im not telling you to do what ive done.But, once you get on the suboxone you will feel like the old jody...Your life sounds alot like mine and many others here can relate with you very well.I have two kids and couldnt funtion until i got them in me at least 3.I have hurt my family so also.i look at my husband and wonder why he let me do all i have to hurt him like i have.He loves me very much im
just forture for him.Im
just happy i didnt end up out of the streets and w/o my kids ..I seen it happen so many times here.....And its like these woman dont care still running doing same damm crazy thing to get the pain pills.
.I have done some of the crazy things but,have not slept with anyone to get them.I hope you the best and please keep posting.When you do get on your sub. come back and post how you are doing.Many here can be really good suport....
Good luck,crystal
Hellcat,good to see you again,i havent been on much these past two days.ive got to leave in a few also.my husband has a doctors appt.he is so scared of a doctor.keeps saying they better not say put a gown on or bring out a neddle.lol.He has been to the doctor but,2 maybe 3 times for a phyical for his CLD's/ or always JOB related.In the 18 years we been together.
Also,scared of a dentist and i think its just crazy.But,i wish i were like that or i wouldnt of gotten in this mess.he has good reason
to feel this way.,When he was little he had to wear a body cast and had alot of shots.....The dentist his mom use to take his cousin and his cousin would scream like they were killing her and then it would be his turn and he would
do the same thing.lol.So,i fight with him to go hes got a tooth thats been hurting for 6 months maybe longer.It
stops then starts back again.I couldnt stay like that in pain .......I see you have taken the jump to come off the sub.Thats great and your feeling ok.How did you come off with the weening ?Im on my 4mg mark still and i really im planing on comeing off after christmas.I going to try and find someone that will treat specializes an depression.I dont know what they are called if anyone can tell me what kind on doctor i need to look for?my family doctor can treat me all the 3 she has its made me scared to even try any others.Then,she hasnt
been really trying to
help me with it.Well,i gotta go get dressed before he gets in will be back later.I hope you feel better and better everyday off sub.keep me posted.crystal
You guys are great, Just checking this post and seeing replies makes you feel so much better, I have spent so much time hiding and secluding myself that it feels so good to be honest and know that you are in a safe place to do so.
My appt. is in two hours, I am very nervous. Hoping so much this is a new start, yet afraid somehow I will once again let myself and my family down. Addiciton is the scariest thing I have every experienced in my life. I will post to you all as soon as I get home and let you know how my experience was with the Sub. Doctor.
Thanks to all of you!!!! Your replies mean so much.
My appt. is in two hours, I am very nervous. Hoping so much this is a new start, yet afraid somehow I will once again let myself and my family down. Addiciton is the scariest thing I have every experienced in my life. I will post to you all as soon as I get home and let you know how my experience was with the Sub. Doctor.
Thanks to all of you!!!! Your replies mean so much.
Swizzle knows more about the Sub then half the doctors prescibing it.
I was in a sub program twice meaning I worked with an addiction specialist outpatient therapy 4 hrs a day and daily--weekly- and finally -monthly drug tests.
Monthly I see my addiction specialist to plan my next month.
I have read where people are getting Sub from the street or mangae to attain it from friends etc.
Its just a drug that enables the W/D and cravings to stop. My third day on Sub I felt pretty good.
My story is just like yours.
Regarding your situation with the OXY I would tell them the truth. Let them make the decision for you.
Jeff
AA--Therapy sponsor friends in the program all needed to succeed. This forum also can help you a lotas its filled with some really good people..
I was in a sub program twice meaning I worked with an addiction specialist outpatient therapy 4 hrs a day and daily--weekly- and finally -monthly drug tests.
Monthly I see my addiction specialist to plan my next month.
I have read where people are getting Sub from the street or mangae to attain it from friends etc.
Its just a drug that enables the W/D and cravings to stop. My third day on Sub I felt pretty good.
My story is just like yours.
Regarding your situation with the OXY I would tell them the truth. Let them make the decision for you.
Jeff
AA--Therapy sponsor friends in the program all needed to succeed. This forum also can help you a lotas its filled with some really good people..
I remember all to well when I was in your shoes. I was so scared of Sub. and fearful of having to be in withdrawal before I could take the 1 St. dose of Sub. I think as long as you listen to your Dr. and try not to be afraid of this process it will make the next step less
difficult (I know that is so much easier said than done) But you said it yourself there is comfort in knowing you are NOT alone !!! Keep your chin up and keep coming back here for support!
I used Sub. as a tool to get off pain killers and I have been clean from hydro for a little over a year.
difficult (I know that is so much easier said than done) But you said it yourself there is comfort in knowing you are NOT alone !!! Keep your chin up and keep coming back here for support!
I used Sub. as a tool to get off pain killers and I have been clean from hydro for a little over a year.
Thank you Jeff!!
As sad as it is, I really DO know a lot more about Sub than 95% of the Dr's that Rx it!! (Not trying to pat myself on the back, just reality speaking here....)
It scares me too cause most people follow their Dr's instructions. When a Dr gives bad info to someone about Sub & they follow it, it is the person taking the Sub that will suffer!!
I am more than happy to any questions anyone has about Sub.
If I can help just one person not suffer, then I am happy
:-)
Swizzle
As sad as it is, I really DO know a lot more about Sub than 95% of the Dr's that Rx it!! (Not trying to pat myself on the back, just reality speaking here....)
It scares me too cause most people follow their Dr's instructions. When a Dr gives bad info to someone about Sub & they follow it, it is the person taking the Sub that will suffer!!
I am more than happy to any questions anyone has about Sub.
If I can help just one person not suffer, then I am happy
:-)
Swizzle
Swizzle I was so messed up and was told about suboxene. Found this doctor and begged her to take me. She said No as I was on tons of benzos. I called 4 days in a row. I broke down crying told her I had no where to go. She saw me the next day. What I signed up for was a PROGRAM--I guess I got lucky.
Lots of people just get sent home with a script? I read last night that someone ran out of there sub. How do you run out unless you take to much.
I only speak for me but the stuff does not get you high. It sure helped me get off all opiates.
Marina congrads on your sobriety that is awesome.
You are one gorgeous woman.
Jeff
Lots of people just get sent home with a script? I read last night that someone ran out of there sub. How do you run out unless you take to much.
I only speak for me but the stuff does not get you high. It sure helped me get off all opiates.
Marina congrads on your sobriety that is awesome.
You are one gorgeous woman.
Jeff
Best of luck, Jody! You'll feel better soon.
I never give advice, but from my experience, here's a suggestion: get off suboxone as soon as you are able. When I started, the Dr. led me to believe that many patients stay on forever..and that getting off would be relatively easy, if I wanted to do that. It's not easy, I found out...but what is?
I used more than I should have last month, because w/ the dose my new Dr. had me on I was in a constant state of low-grade detox and wanted desperately to feel normal. I had never tried de-toxing from it and, knowing I'd run out of sub. anyway, decided to give it a try. OUCH!! The Dr. was wrong. I felt awful!
S
I never give advice, but from my experience, here's a suggestion: get off suboxone as soon as you are able. When I started, the Dr. led me to believe that many patients stay on forever..and that getting off would be relatively easy, if I wanted to do that. It's not easy, I found out...but what is?
I used more than I should have last month, because w/ the dose my new Dr. had me on I was in a constant state of low-grade detox and wanted desperately to feel normal. I had never tried de-toxing from it and, knowing I'd run out of sub. anyway, decided to give it a try. OUCH!! The Dr. was wrong. I felt awful!
S
jODY,
I KNOW YOUHAVE TO GO SO, BUT IMO YOU SHOULD BE HONEST WITH THE DR. ABOUT WHAT YOU TOOK OR YOU COULD ED UP WITH SERIOUS WITHDRAWLS ( FEELING AWFUL)
BEST OF LUCK LET US KNOW HOW IT WENT
HUGS,
ALI
I KNOW YOUHAVE TO GO SO, BUT IMO YOU SHOULD BE HONEST WITH THE DR. ABOUT WHAT YOU TOOK OR YOU COULD ED UP WITH SERIOUS WITHDRAWLS ( FEELING AWFUL)
BEST OF LUCK LET US KNOW HOW IT WENT
HUGS,
ALI
Hellcat how did you wean off?
Jeff
Jeff
Hi Jeff,
Not the best way, I guess...Just got back from the Dr.'s office. I really thought I might ask him for 1 more script...but we both agreed that since I was already 3 days off sub. that I should probably just go for it. I could stay on this forever if I'm waiting to feel perfect while I'm de-toxing. Time to bite the bullet. I didn't feel all that great while I was on it so I'm not losing much. It's been almost 3 days and I don't feel THAT bad.
Shawn
Not the best way, I guess...Just got back from the Dr.'s office. I really thought I might ask him for 1 more script...but we both agreed that since I was already 3 days off sub. that I should probably just go for it. I could stay on this forever if I'm waiting to feel perfect while I'm de-toxing. Time to bite the bullet. I didn't feel all that great while I was on it so I'm not losing much. It's been almost 3 days and I don't feel THAT bad.
Shawn
hey jodi
wow. i can relate so much to your experience. I hope things went well at the. dr's. Let us know--take care, Fire
wow. i can relate so much to your experience. I hope things went well at the. dr's. Let us know--take care, Fire
Hi Jody,
What else can I say except thank goodness for sub, it helped me get my life back. I am now off the sub but I would still be using without it! Sub is just the beginning you must continue to get help. Check out NA see if you like it, you can meet other people there in the same boat. Some old timers in NA dont like the fact that you are using sub, but too bad, you are there for you.
I wish you all the Best.Shel
What else can I say except thank goodness for sub, it helped me get my life back. I am now off the sub but I would still be using without it! Sub is just the beginning you must continue to get help. Check out NA see if you like it, you can meet other people there in the same boat. Some old timers in NA dont like the fact that you are using sub, but too bad, you are there for you.
I wish you all the Best.Shel
jodi im shelby kr one of the twins, ive been through it many times babe, i promise you will be fine, all you need to do is tell the dr. youve been off the oxycodone for 12 hours, they will prescribe u 8mg suboxone pills that u put under ur tounge but i dont want to scare u, it is very hard to get off suboxone, the withdrawls are 5x as worst than roxys, and oxys read my story in the message board, what i did my twin and i were snorting about 25-30 roxy 30mg per day and about 10 xanax with it, yes i was crazy and im lucky im still living in this woderfull world, i went to one of my pain management doctors 1 last time about 3 weeks ago he presribes me 360 roxy 30's, what i did i snorted 10 at once and said screw it what ami i doing, i then gave my mother who loves my twin and so much, my roxy's. She than contolled how much I took a day. I went from 25-30 pills to 5 a day. i started 5 roxys a week, the 4 the next, them 3 the next and so on, till i was down to a half a week. then nothing, it felt weird i was depressed, i did alot of research and the best way to detox is lower the dosage on what your taking, my opinion your just taking another drug to get off the drug your on now, your gonna have to do the same w/suboxone lower your dosage weekly it sucks especially suboxone. my opinion i did research alot of it that is most healthier lowering your oxy dose slowly till your off, thats what i did and ive been clean now for 3 weeks and no cravings. the research i was right detoxing off the drug your taking now will make u not want it ne more when your finished, and it was right. trust me i did it all suboxone, buprenex injectables, subutex, everything try it my way and i promise u will be successfull but u need to have someone to dispense the meds to u, cause it wont work trying to do it yourself cause u know u will binge if u have the meds in your posession. i wish u the best and godd bless u, i will say a prayer for u i promise, u only live once u have 2 beautifull children they deserve u. good luck Joseph . please read my story and i would like to hear from u the topic on my message board is how to withdrawll off roxycodone love ya bye
Hey,jody
i know you are gone and probley havent made it back.I hope everything went well.I myself have never ran out of sub. and my doctor thinks im on a higher dose.Right ,when i told him months after i was craveing he told me i needed to be on a higher dose.So he went from one and half ,then 2 and a half and then last time i went he put me of 3 and a half a day.Which i dont take but
half a tab. a day thats 4mgs.I dont go monthly and before last time i havent been in
6 months.So,it was good he gave more then what i im on.I dont have the money to run back from month to month.But,last time he told me his wife has
become parterners with him i have to come in rather i have the money or not.So,they told me if i could pay a dollor then just pay it.I want just take them a dollor but,i cant afford paying the full vistd.So,im very luck so far.Yes,the meds cost alot but 15 pills last 30 days it $78.00 a month is what it cost me.Compared to the $300.00 or more i was paying and all the hell of suffering and running.Its well worth it.crystal
i know you are gone and probley havent made it back.I hope everything went well.I myself have never ran out of sub. and my doctor thinks im on a higher dose.Right ,when i told him months after i was craveing he told me i needed to be on a higher dose.So he went from one and half ,then 2 and a half and then last time i went he put me of 3 and a half a day.Which i dont take but
half a tab. a day thats 4mgs.I dont go monthly and before last time i havent been in
6 months.So,it was good he gave more then what i im on.I dont have the money to run back from month to month.But,last time he told me his wife has
become parterners with him i have to come in rather i have the money or not.So,they told me if i could pay a dollor then just pay it.I want just take them a dollor but,i cant afford paying the full vistd.So,im very luck so far.Yes,the meds cost alot but 15 pills last 30 days it $78.00 a month is what it cost me.Compared to the $300.00 or more i was paying and all the hell of suffering and running.Its well worth it.crystal
JMO,i been there and done the tampering as well.with my pain pills.my husband was in control of them.He would
hide them at home and i would find them.Then he got smart and took them with him.It takes a person with a strong stong wilpower to ween off .After he took them to work the first day i was nutting up and belive me he didnt control them again.he told me he wouldnt do it again ethier.I gave him so much Hell.
hide them at home and i would find them.Then he got smart and took them with him.It takes a person with a strong stong wilpower to ween off .After he took them to work the first day i was nutting up and belive me he didnt control them again.he told me he wouldnt do it again ethier.I gave him so much Hell.
UPDATE:
I was halfway through with this post just now and then all the sudden KA_POOF
It was gone??? I dunno Im still new at this. :)
I had to drive to Terre Haute, Indiana to the suboxone clinic. I live right inside the Illinois state line so that was about a 60 mile trip for me but I think that it will be very well worth the drive every month to get my recovery underway.
I was so so nervous walking into that clinic, I guess the feeling is ashamed. I know that people must think "how pathetic" Here I was shivering already in withdrawals, had barely even got a shower, no makeup, hair in a 1980's scrunchie, no socks on..........It was the best I could do to get there. One of the nurses looked at me twice and It was going through my mind how she must be thinking how ridiculous I was sitting there an addict with two wonderful children at home but yet couldnt even get my life together for them. But I did make it there and humbled myself to say I was out of control and needed help that is a start right?
The nurse I dealt with was great she was very sympathetic it seemed...........While she was taking down my "using" history, she told me a story of a school friend of hers who had an opiate addiction and all the emotional and financial probs that go with that and they found him dead in his home with four 100g. fentanyl patches on. I thought my god, how am i so lucky to of survived this far? Any of you ever wonder that, why have I pushed the limit so many times and am lucky enough to be here. I played around with fentanyl patches many times.........How scary.
Anyway, I told them it had been over 12 actually 16 or so hrs since taking the Oxy and they said 12 hours was sufficient for the short acting opiates. That was a relief! The Dr. I saw was also really really nice and spent tons of time talking with me. I was prescribed a total of 8mgs per day ......................2 of the 2 mg tabs twice daily. I have decided even though I am very uncomfortable to wait until morning to dose, Just wanted to be sure all the junk is out of my system. I am wondering though with a 100-200 mg a day habit of Oxy's is this enough of a dose??? I am just so nervous of being right back where I was last week, withdrawaling every day. They did say that I could play with the dose and if i was not comfortable to call them and it could be upped. I am so hoping and praying this works. I am going to dose as soon as i wake in the morn. So i will start a new thread on my sub experience. If any of you have any info on dosing, and what is an average starting dose or anything at all Please post. I have been on this site non stop since i found it. What a god send!!! Hope everyone is doing well. Will post tomorrow on how it goes. Thanks for all of your replies, its so unreal the support on these boards. I will be up for a while so if anyone is here please post if you can.
I was halfway through with this post just now and then all the sudden KA_POOF
It was gone??? I dunno Im still new at this. :)
I had to drive to Terre Haute, Indiana to the suboxone clinic. I live right inside the Illinois state line so that was about a 60 mile trip for me but I think that it will be very well worth the drive every month to get my recovery underway.
I was so so nervous walking into that clinic, I guess the feeling is ashamed. I know that people must think "how pathetic" Here I was shivering already in withdrawals, had barely even got a shower, no makeup, hair in a 1980's scrunchie, no socks on..........It was the best I could do to get there. One of the nurses looked at me twice and It was going through my mind how she must be thinking how ridiculous I was sitting there an addict with two wonderful children at home but yet couldnt even get my life together for them. But I did make it there and humbled myself to say I was out of control and needed help that is a start right?
The nurse I dealt with was great she was very sympathetic it seemed...........While she was taking down my "using" history, she told me a story of a school friend of hers who had an opiate addiction and all the emotional and financial probs that go with that and they found him dead in his home with four 100g. fentanyl patches on. I thought my god, how am i so lucky to of survived this far? Any of you ever wonder that, why have I pushed the limit so many times and am lucky enough to be here. I played around with fentanyl patches many times.........How scary.
Anyway, I told them it had been over 12 actually 16 or so hrs since taking the Oxy and they said 12 hours was sufficient for the short acting opiates. That was a relief! The Dr. I saw was also really really nice and spent tons of time talking with me. I was prescribed a total of 8mgs per day ......................2 of the 2 mg tabs twice daily. I have decided even though I am very uncomfortable to wait until morning to dose, Just wanted to be sure all the junk is out of my system. I am wondering though with a 100-200 mg a day habit of Oxy's is this enough of a dose??? I am just so nervous of being right back where I was last week, withdrawaling every day. They did say that I could play with the dose and if i was not comfortable to call them and it could be upped. I am so hoping and praying this works. I am going to dose as soon as i wake in the morn. So i will start a new thread on my sub experience. If any of you have any info on dosing, and what is an average starting dose or anything at all Please post. I have been on this site non stop since i found it. What a god send!!! Hope everyone is doing well. Will post tomorrow on how it goes. Thanks for all of your replies, its so unreal the support on these boards. I will be up for a while so if anyone is here please post if you can.
