Im starting a new topic and hope everyone who replied reads this.. started a new thread cause that was just too many pages to go through! lol but it made me feel really good. To be honest when I first posted that night I sat in front of the computer refreshing the page every mintue waiting for someone to have replied! I dunno guess Im just so eager to have the easiest way out. I mean it was so easy to start .. it should be easy to stop eh? lol So anyway Ive tried to reply here a few times but keep loosing my dang connection. Then couldnt even get connected!
Today I have done good.. only took 8 all day. I took em to get through work then by the end of the day when the last 2 1/2 had worn off I slept and couldnt stay awake to save my life! A bit ago I took 3 more just so I could stay awake to drive my kids home safely. I cant believe how unbelievably tired I was. Is that how most ppl wd? I keep hearing benadryl for sleep... if this is any indecation then I dont think Ill need any help with sleeping! My God tho the pain in my legs and arms .. just lifting my arms over my head burned so badly. Yesterday I didnt take very many either .. a friend gave me two ultracets, they are non narcs and actually I felt no pain at all when I took them. I didnt have to take any percs for like 6 hrs. Since they are non narcs couldnt I take them for awhile until my body doesnt need the percs? Or would I just become addicted to another drug. I wonder if the wd's from those would be less tho. I dunno this seems all so crazy to me. Its like one day I was pregnant, the next she is almost two and I realize Ive been high that whole time! How and when did it happen. I dont even know when I realized I 'had' to have them. At first it was cause it made me feel better. I had so much energy.. and the bottle actually says 'May cause drowsiness' I always did wonder why I was full of energy and remodeling the house.. cleaning and ironing the clothes and the bottle said "may cause drowsiness" kinda odd to me. In the very beginning I actually stayed up all night!
Anyway, back to reality eh.. time to stop and get full of life instead of 'energy'.
singlemon,
yeah i'd be careful do some research online about ultracet, someone will come along more educated about this one then i. but i do know that ultracet is addictive. i dont think its classified as a narcotic, but has something in it that resembles one. as i said someone will be by with a better explaination. in the meantime you can research it on google. sounds like you really want recovery and are serious. i support you and commend your decision. please let me know if there is anyway i can offer some more help or support. keep posting and reading.
terrianne
yeah i'd be careful do some research online about ultracet, someone will come along more educated about this one then i. but i do know that ultracet is addictive. i dont think its classified as a narcotic, but has something in it that resembles one. as i said someone will be by with a better explaination. in the meantime you can research it on google. sounds like you really want recovery and are serious. i support you and commend your decision. please let me know if there is anyway i can offer some more help or support. keep posting and reading.
terrianne
Hi Singlemom.....
Ultracet contains tramadol ....which is addictive and should never be taking by people with opiate addiction.......
I found some info for you on it......click the link and it will take you there....
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/...er/a695011.html
I hope this helps you.........
Take care,
Tina
Ultracet contains tramadol ....which is addictive and should never be taking by people with opiate addiction.......
I found some info for you on it......click the link and it will take you there....
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/...er/a695011.html
I hope this helps you.........
Take care,
Tina
I had issues with that med too...
When I was on vicoden, and run out, I used tohave that knock out too...where you fall asleep, and just can't get up.
a few hours after that, the sneezing would start, then I knew the wds were coming on...
tramadol (the ingredient in ultracet) isn't a narcotic, but it is an opiod, so it will stop the withdrawls.
The best way to recover is to get completely clean and then modify the thinking and behavior. Staying stopped is the hardest part.
I actually got off vicoden for the second time, and went to ultramm. I took it for pain, but also because it made me feel normal. The withdrawls will take about 3 weeks to a month for the fatigue to go away..
I went to my dr after 6 months of ultramm...I wanted off. But that med you just can't cold turkey from, and he handed me oxycontin. That is why I am on sub. Even though I told him no more narcotics, he gave me oxy. With a year of trying to stay off of narcs, I put that in my mouth, and went off and on it for the next six weeks...that is why I opted for sub. I can't go back to treatment, and I have two little ones myself, six and three.
Inpatient would be the best option, but like I said, it might be hard. Do you have an addictionalogist that can help you? The worst of it should be over in a week...and the fatigue and insomnia hang around for a while longer.
I would also try some way to change the behaviors...aa, na, counseling..
But....in answer to you question, ultramm will stop the withdrawl, but it is a dicey situtation because you are still using something.
Even with the sub, it doesn't make me feel high, but it doenst' make me feel as if I am clean, either, because I still have to get off of that..
Good luck...
kerry
When I was on vicoden, and run out, I used tohave that knock out too...where you fall asleep, and just can't get up.
a few hours after that, the sneezing would start, then I knew the wds were coming on...
tramadol (the ingredient in ultracet) isn't a narcotic, but it is an opiod, so it will stop the withdrawls.
The best way to recover is to get completely clean and then modify the thinking and behavior. Staying stopped is the hardest part.
I actually got off vicoden for the second time, and went to ultramm. I took it for pain, but also because it made me feel normal. The withdrawls will take about 3 weeks to a month for the fatigue to go away..
I went to my dr after 6 months of ultramm...I wanted off. But that med you just can't cold turkey from, and he handed me oxycontin. That is why I am on sub. Even though I told him no more narcotics, he gave me oxy. With a year of trying to stay off of narcs, I put that in my mouth, and went off and on it for the next six weeks...that is why I opted for sub. I can't go back to treatment, and I have two little ones myself, six and three.
Inpatient would be the best option, but like I said, it might be hard. Do you have an addictionalogist that can help you? The worst of it should be over in a week...and the fatigue and insomnia hang around for a while longer.
I would also try some way to change the behaviors...aa, na, counseling..
But....in answer to you question, ultramm will stop the withdrawl, but it is a dicey situtation because you are still using something.
Even with the sub, it doesn't make me feel high, but it doenst' make me feel as if I am clean, either, because I still have to get off of that..
Good luck...
kerry
Thanks Terriane, I do appreciate the confidence in me. I am scared to hell but yeah I am desperate to quit. More desperate to quit than to keep using. I only have a 11 percs left and 6 morphine. Thats not enouph to get me through a normal day. But Im not getting anymore.. in fact I cant. When I was getting them by the 100 ct it was easy but as of yesterday is no longer an option. A sign ya think? I think so. I am a firm believer in theres a reason for everything. I decided I wanted to stop and the very next day my supplier is no longer available. No my Dr wasnt giving them to me. Im sure if I were desperate I could find some.. but Im more desperate to stop. Deep sigh... I just have never been so tired as I was today. I dont know how Im going to make it through a week of that! I guess if I made it this long on em I can survive without em and suffer for a bit. I just wish I had someone to help with my kids!!! Maybe I should find a support group really fast and maybe someone could help me. If Im gone from here a frew days youll know why ... Im sleeeeeeeeeeping!
BTW: A bit about me.. Im 31, devorced have three children, 11 yrs, 5 yrs, and the baby who is almost 2. I work at a school for kids with disabilities. I love my job and my kids. I went through a horrible break up recently. He was very abusive and when I finally did leave he came in my house while I was sleeping and tried to kill me. He beat me for 45 minute in front my children and my oldest snuck out the back to get help. The police came took me to the ER and will be givin an award next week for saving my life. He btw is in jail on 75,000 cash only bond. He pleaded not guilty so we go to trial. His best offer was 5 yrs and he rejected it. We go again next week to court.. who knows. I cant think about that right now when I am going through this with these damn pills. That would be way too much. I have panic attacks when I allow myself to think about it so.. I have to focus on one at a time.
BTW: A bit about me.. Im 31, devorced have three children, 11 yrs, 5 yrs, and the baby who is almost 2. I work at a school for kids with disabilities. I love my job and my kids. I went through a horrible break up recently. He was very abusive and when I finally did leave he came in my house while I was sleeping and tried to kill me. He beat me for 45 minute in front my children and my oldest snuck out the back to get help. The police came took me to the ER and will be givin an award next week for saving my life. He btw is in jail on 75,000 cash only bond. He pleaded not guilty so we go to trial. His best offer was 5 yrs and he rejected it. We go again next week to court.. who knows. I cant think about that right now when I am going through this with these damn pills. That would be way too much. I have panic attacks when I allow myself to think about it so.. I have to focus on one at a time.
singlemom,
you are one strong chica, good for you for thinking about yourself and getting healthy 1st. your number one and you deserve it. the rest of the stuff regarding your ex will all work out as planned. it sounds like your pretty confident of that. it would seem like he would get the book thrown at him. i pray he will.
yeah the withdrawals arent forever. 3-5 days should be the worst of it. is your eleven year old mature enough to help you out while you nap. keep sandwich stuff and cereal in stock. sounds like your 11 yrs old could handle that for a few days to help out. even buy paper plates and cups so you dont have many dishes. then just ride it out for a few days. you will notice yourself feeling better as each day passes. try some vitamin b for added energy.
keep holding on to your strength and hope. your right there is a reason your dealer isnt available. a good reason. you deserve to be clean from the grips of those dirty lil pills and your kids deserve to have thier mommy happy and healthy. did you say your son is getting an award for saving your life? you have to be so proud of him : ) you definately have a purpose to serve in this life. i admire your strength and determination so much as a mom as well. i feel pretty confident you can lick this. with your outlook and what you have been through, seems like withdrawals will be a breeze for you : )
terrianne
you are one strong chica, good for you for thinking about yourself and getting healthy 1st. your number one and you deserve it. the rest of the stuff regarding your ex will all work out as planned. it sounds like your pretty confident of that. it would seem like he would get the book thrown at him. i pray he will.
yeah the withdrawals arent forever. 3-5 days should be the worst of it. is your eleven year old mature enough to help you out while you nap. keep sandwich stuff and cereal in stock. sounds like your 11 yrs old could handle that for a few days to help out. even buy paper plates and cups so you dont have many dishes. then just ride it out for a few days. you will notice yourself feeling better as each day passes. try some vitamin b for added energy.
keep holding on to your strength and hope. your right there is a reason your dealer isnt available. a good reason. you deserve to be clean from the grips of those dirty lil pills and your kids deserve to have thier mommy happy and healthy. did you say your son is getting an award for saving your life? you have to be so proud of him : ) you definately have a purpose to serve in this life. i admire your strength and determination so much as a mom as well. i feel pretty confident you can lick this. with your outlook and what you have been through, seems like withdrawals will be a breeze for you : )
terrianne
Hi Singlemom,
Welcome. You've come to the right place for advice. I, too, began taking percs about 2 1/2 years ago, after surgery. And, like you, before I knew it I was up to taking 20-25 10mg daily. I still didnt really think that I was an addict (lol) - until I tried to stop, that is. I had never been addicted to anything in my life. Of course, I dwindles in drugs in the past, with cocaine being my DOC for many years, but never woke up wanting a "line" like I would wake up having to take a handful of pills just to get motivated and out of bed!! Well, then I realized I DID have a problem. I was scared too death. I also have children and my children's father passed away last April. Thank God I found this site. It was a real lifesaver for me.
What I did at first, was to try to taper down, I thought that this way just quitting c/t wouldnt be such a big shock to my system. This is pretty hard for an addict to do, I cheated, but I did make it down to about six a day, then just quit. I stayed clean for about a little over a month, then the little addict in me told me "its ok to just take one or two", you really DO need them for your back. Well, believe me, it dont take long to get right back up there again. So, had to go back to square one. I did a "methadone taper" (dont jump on me Rae!!). Methadone is HIGHLY addictive and way worse to withdraw from. But I only did it for less than a week, taking 20mg 1st am then 20 that night, next day 15mg in am and at night,then 10, then 5, then 2.5 then that was it. That worked pretty well for me. Of course, it takes time to gain back your energy and sleeping part, well, it took alot of time for me to get a good nights sleep. I just want you to know that you CAN do this.
If you have a family dr. that you can confide in, you might want to have a little physical, just to make sure you have no underlying problems. He may even give you some clonidine - thats a BP med, but seems to help with w/ds. My dr. gave it to me. You also need to tell all drs. and cut ties to any "friends" that you may have gotten them from in the past.
Most of all, if you can get to some meetings (na, aa) and get a sponsor, that would be a big help. Keep posting here. There are so many kind and caring people who have been there and who are willing to help, hon. I'll be thinking of you, and you will be in my prayers. Good luck. Remember, keep posting!!!
Oh, BTW things to have on hand that may help (I think a few already gave you some advice on this) benedryl, herbal (decaf) teas, vitamins (try the liquid b12), a good book, soothing music, Immodium AD (in case of runs) and take long hot baths - I put epsom salts in mine, its great for the achiness. OK, well I hope some of this helps!! All my best to you.
Love,
Marie
Welcome. You've come to the right place for advice. I, too, began taking percs about 2 1/2 years ago, after surgery. And, like you, before I knew it I was up to taking 20-25 10mg daily. I still didnt really think that I was an addict (lol) - until I tried to stop, that is. I had never been addicted to anything in my life. Of course, I dwindles in drugs in the past, with cocaine being my DOC for many years, but never woke up wanting a "line" like I would wake up having to take a handful of pills just to get motivated and out of bed!! Well, then I realized I DID have a problem. I was scared too death. I also have children and my children's father passed away last April. Thank God I found this site. It was a real lifesaver for me.
What I did at first, was to try to taper down, I thought that this way just quitting c/t wouldnt be such a big shock to my system. This is pretty hard for an addict to do, I cheated, but I did make it down to about six a day, then just quit. I stayed clean for about a little over a month, then the little addict in me told me "its ok to just take one or two", you really DO need them for your back. Well, believe me, it dont take long to get right back up there again. So, had to go back to square one. I did a "methadone taper" (dont jump on me Rae!!). Methadone is HIGHLY addictive and way worse to withdraw from. But I only did it for less than a week, taking 20mg 1st am then 20 that night, next day 15mg in am and at night,then 10, then 5, then 2.5 then that was it. That worked pretty well for me. Of course, it takes time to gain back your energy and sleeping part, well, it took alot of time for me to get a good nights sleep. I just want you to know that you CAN do this.
If you have a family dr. that you can confide in, you might want to have a little physical, just to make sure you have no underlying problems. He may even give you some clonidine - thats a BP med, but seems to help with w/ds. My dr. gave it to me. You also need to tell all drs. and cut ties to any "friends" that you may have gotten them from in the past.
Most of all, if you can get to some meetings (na, aa) and get a sponsor, that would be a big help. Keep posting here. There are so many kind and caring people who have been there and who are willing to help, hon. I'll be thinking of you, and you will be in my prayers. Good luck. Remember, keep posting!!!
Oh, BTW things to have on hand that may help (I think a few already gave you some advice on this) benedryl, herbal (decaf) teas, vitamins (try the liquid b12), a good book, soothing music, Immodium AD (in case of runs) and take long hot baths - I put epsom salts in mine, its great for the achiness. OK, well I hope some of this helps!! All my best to you.
Love,
Marie
Thanks both of you for your advise and words of confidence. I have some prenatal vitamins that I started today ... if they dont help with the pain or fatigue at least my nails and hair will grow eh? lol Yeah I am pretty sure they will throw the book at him. The police Dept did an awsome job that night with pictures of my home and of me, the prosecuting attorny asked me what I wanted first off .. if I wanted to see him in jail and would testify or if I was going to accept this behavior from him and not help him help me. He askde this with the pictures spread out on a table in front of me. As I glanced at them I looked at the determination he had to put these guys away.. I stopped feeling sorry for myself and decided to help him... I said I wanted jail time for him. He said good, he is going for 7-10, would bargain 5 if he plead guilty ... the prosecuting attorny said in a jury trial he will likely get more time. Statistacly 7 out of 10 ppl are abused and even tho they didnt get revenge on their abuser they cant wait to on another abuser.. that being said when they see the pictures of what he did and hear how he did it.. even tho he has the best criminal attorny here in KC he will still be convicted. Right now as I type I am also watching ENOUPH. Just 20 minutes ago when she was being hit I seen all the flashbacks, felt her pain and how afraid she was, the desperation, and for the first time I really broke down and cried. Probably because I dont have all the percs killing that emotional pain. I wondered why I hadnt really cried yet. Then again Im also feeling so emotional today. I keep glancing at the "Tylenol" bottle holding the last of my percs but I havent gave in yet. Now on the movie is where she is training .. I feel strong again.
I went to my doctor and she gave me ultram she was telling me that is was not addictive she will not give anything that is narcotics. I had no idea that it was this addictive... I took some but it just made me really nervous and I did not take anymore... How addictive is ultram?
Hi trying,
Your question about ultram......it is never suppose to be given to opiate dependant people......I think the FDA is trying to get it re-classified......
Molly Jean on here is on sub now because of ultram.......
Take care,
Tina
Your question about ultram......it is never suppose to be given to opiate dependant people......I think the FDA is trying to get it re-classified......
Molly Jean on here is on sub now because of ultram.......
Take care,
Tina
I did a little research on ultram and ultracet, both are non-narcs but niether should be givin to someone with drug abuse problems I found. They contain tramadol, ultram has more than ulracet does but both are not for anyone with addiction it says. I happened to like the ultracet when I took it so for that reason I think Im going to stay away from it. But yeah, your Dr is right it isnt a narc but still can give the same effect. and yes can become addicting. Actually I read that on the printout from the pharmacy (that it shouldnt be givin to people with addiction/abuse history. Im guessing your Dr knows about your addiction? You should read the printout from the pharmacy when you filled your script and maybe show her.
Hi trying-
It really upsests me how these drs. go around handing out Ultramm, etc and tell the patient that it is NOT addictive. We are supposed to be able to trust our drs, arent we? The same thing happened to me when I quit the first time. Since I really had back problems, I figured that I could take something non-narcotic. Anyhow, thank God that I came to this site and asked about it!!
You're on the right track, hon and I think everythings going to be just fine!!
Love,
Marie
It really upsests me how these drs. go around handing out Ultramm, etc and tell the patient that it is NOT addictive. We are supposed to be able to trust our drs, arent we? The same thing happened to me when I quit the first time. Since I really had back problems, I figured that I could take something non-narcotic. Anyhow, thank God that I came to this site and asked about it!!
You're on the right track, hon and I think everythings going to be just fine!!
Love,
Marie
