Thank You Mod's,
For deleting that distasteful and triggering thread. That also was becoming a name calling war. I appreciate your quick attention to this matter. If I ever get out of hand please by all means do your job.
Thank You,
Chris
I must of missed something...I don't know what this was about but if I played a part in this, my apologies.
It wasn't you, Zipper, nor was it Lookinup. All public domain stuff that I posted was stuff that some found troubling and I was then castigized for being a meanie and personally assailing. Not real sure what transpired afterwards--internet being what it is. We press on.
Chris, I am sorry if you feel threatened. Might be something to look at. If you want to personally attack me or discuss, you can e-mail me as can Martin and anyone else who believes that it's the person, not the principle, in the message. In a group meeting, if someone has a problem, the usual and customary procedure would be to urge someone aside and discuss--and usually the oldtimers end up being the bouncers. I offer no apologies--except to the admininstrators of this board who have to pull the kids apart.
Have a great day!
Chris, I am sorry if you feel threatened. Might be something to look at. If you want to personally attack me or discuss, you can e-mail me as can Martin and anyone else who believes that it's the person, not the principle, in the message. In a group meeting, if someone has a problem, the usual and customary procedure would be to urge someone aside and discuss--and usually the oldtimers end up being the bouncers. I offer no apologies--except to the admininstrators of this board who have to pull the kids apart.
Have a great day!
I saw the pix before they were pulled and if I know Shane they were probably posted as a deterent not a mockery. Sadly, alcoholism can lead to such tragedies as we all know. Seeing someone pull themselves up from those depths is such a blessing. I've seen it. I know it's possible. I always had the idea that all homeless people were like that by choice or insanity but since I got sober I sure have learned different. Us drunks sure do clean up good.
"We do talk about each other a great deal, but we almost invariably temper such talk by a spirit of love and tolerance."
Well I looked at them and felt glad and sad. Glad I ain't living the life anymore, and sad for the folk who are still living that life. A good demonstration of what we are all dealing with, we can't hide from it. Glad I saw them before they got axed!!
I hope everyone is having a nice day.
As I mentioned yesterday for myself today I don't find pictures of others drinking, or drinking and passing out triggering for myself to pick up. However, a few months back I would have. Fortunately, I'm on the path of recovery now.
There are people who come to this site to read, observe posts. People who aren't sure if they have a problem. People that are in various stages of denial. I have a special concern for the youth who may be more impressionable.
Where is the line drawn? Should it be allowed to post pictures on the MJ board of getting ready to light one up? Pictures of lines of coke, heroin, bottles of vicodin and oxy's. Pictures of paraphernalia. Pictures of what a person looks like after being drunk and high.
I do see the good point in deterring people when showing extremes. But I also see this as triggering for some people. After all this is a recovery board, not the intervention reality show. Yes, you can make the argument that a person has a choice to not view the show, change the channel. Here depending on the title of the thread and how exact it is to the topic being posted a person can be surprised.
The first time a couple of months back when the picture was posted I found it distasteful then. This time I chose to speak out as homeless people often have no one speaking for them. Many are very mentally ill people. Others are run away teens. Still others are professionals who've lost their jobs with no family members. Went off their med's ended up in the streets, then self medicated their mental illnesses with alcohol and drugs. I personally know a woman who was homeless for two years from a gambling addiction and mental illness.
I'm not sorry for caring about homeless people. I support causes financially to help them along with other charities. I've gone with groups before to hand out food, blankets, and toiletries.
I don't know you as well as Ms. Katbird does. She states you didn't do it out of mockery. I'm sorry there's a part of me who took it that way, but I also took it as a deterrent just not in the same strength.
I don't think, or feel what I said was attacking you. I'm sorry if you took it that way. I have no desire to attack anyone. To my knowledge I don't believe I called you names either. I pointed to the pictures. I have no desire to call anyone names. I'm sorry if you felt, or thought this.
However, there was name calling going on that has not been accounted for. That's OK. It doesn't have to be. But heres some spirit food.
What does name calling produce? It produces strife. It does not produce brotherly or sisterly love. It hurts, it doesn't help. Believe me I've been guilty of it in my life. I hope and pray that there's less of it in my life.
I'm sorry if anyone finds this post unloving, unfair, or unkind. It is not my intention. I apologize if it has. But I will not apologize for my feelings. Unless God points it out to me that I'm wrong.
Yes, lets continue to press on and through.
Sincerely,
Chris
There are people who come to this site to read, observe posts. People who aren't sure if they have a problem. People that are in various stages of denial. I have a special concern for the youth who may be more impressionable.
Where is the line drawn? Should it be allowed to post pictures on the MJ board of getting ready to light one up? Pictures of lines of coke, heroin, bottles of vicodin and oxy's. Pictures of paraphernalia. Pictures of what a person looks like after being drunk and high.
I do see the good point in deterring people when showing extremes. But I also see this as triggering for some people. After all this is a recovery board, not the intervention reality show. Yes, you can make the argument that a person has a choice to not view the show, change the channel. Here depending on the title of the thread and how exact it is to the topic being posted a person can be surprised.
The first time a couple of months back when the picture was posted I found it distasteful then. This time I chose to speak out as homeless people often have no one speaking for them. Many are very mentally ill people. Others are run away teens. Still others are professionals who've lost their jobs with no family members. Went off their med's ended up in the streets, then self medicated their mental illnesses with alcohol and drugs. I personally know a woman who was homeless for two years from a gambling addiction and mental illness.
I'm not sorry for caring about homeless people. I support causes financially to help them along with other charities. I've gone with groups before to hand out food, blankets, and toiletries.
I don't know you as well as Ms. Katbird does. She states you didn't do it out of mockery. I'm sorry there's a part of me who took it that way, but I also took it as a deterrent just not in the same strength.
I don't think, or feel what I said was attacking you. I'm sorry if you took it that way. I have no desire to attack anyone. To my knowledge I don't believe I called you names either. I pointed to the pictures. I have no desire to call anyone names. I'm sorry if you felt, or thought this.
However, there was name calling going on that has not been accounted for. That's OK. It doesn't have to be. But heres some spirit food.
What does name calling produce? It produces strife. It does not produce brotherly or sisterly love. It hurts, it doesn't help. Believe me I've been guilty of it in my life. I hope and pray that there's less of it in my life.
I'm sorry if anyone finds this post unloving, unfair, or unkind. It is not my intention. I apologize if it has. But I will not apologize for my feelings. Unless God points it out to me that I'm wrong.
Yes, lets continue to press on and through.
Sincerely,
Chris
I thought it was a very sentimental, honest and heartfelt post Chris, as always may I add. I understand what you are saying completely.
Well said Chris, when I saw those pictures I thought "there but for the grace of god go I". I think that we need to be very respectful of what little dignity people in those situations have left; they are still people.
one day at a time, Cookster
one day at a time, Cookster
Gidday All
They may even be sober now.
I was in there shoes mentally, emotionally and spiritually and my brother was exactly as the pictures showed and he has been sober for 12 years plus
He lived in the Sydney train station at one stage and drank metho, which is his drink of choice, he sat in parks drinking metho and people were shot and stabbed next to him, he just grabbed the metho and shifted as it meant more for him to drink
light and love Zac
They may even be sober now.
I was in there shoes mentally, emotionally and spiritually and my brother was exactly as the pictures showed and he has been sober for 12 years plus
He lived in the Sydney train station at one stage and drank metho, which is his drink of choice, he sat in parks drinking metho and people were shot and stabbed next to him, he just grabbed the metho and shifted as it meant more for him to drink
light and love Zac
