I was watching ER last night and, for those of you who aren't regular viewers, one of the principles is an alcoholic. A few seasons ago they had her struggling through recovery after completing a rehab stint and I guess they decided she needed to go out on a bender. So she did.
"Everyone has personal problems. Recovering alcoholics seem to be the only ones willing to do something about them," one of the other principles on the show comments.
Do you find yourself trying to say profound things? I think that's another fear--acceptance. Again.
Hey SKG,
I love ER, been watching since the beginning which has been a few years back, now...
I didn't watch last nights episode yet (I taped it) but I have been watching Abby for years and can relate too much to her....
Anyways, fear of acceptance...yes, I still can struggle with that one and saying the right thing, yep, sometimes, when I'm not completely trusting God, I try to impress but for the most part, I pray a lot on a daily basis and always asking my God to help me with the right thing to do, and help me speak to others and most the time, it turns out okay....
I've missed your words lately...U ok? I'm checking out for the weekend soon but know you are loved and appreciated....and if you are going through some things, make sure you get to a meeting and share....
Smooches,
Stacey
I love ER, been watching since the beginning which has been a few years back, now...
I didn't watch last nights episode yet (I taped it) but I have been watching Abby for years and can relate too much to her....
Anyways, fear of acceptance...yes, I still can struggle with that one and saying the right thing, yep, sometimes, when I'm not completely trusting God, I try to impress but for the most part, I pray a lot on a daily basis and always asking my God to help me with the right thing to do, and help me speak to others and most the time, it turns out okay....
I've missed your words lately...U ok? I'm checking out for the weekend soon but know you are loved and appreciated....and if you are going through some things, make sure you get to a meeting and share....
Smooches,
Stacey
Gidday All
mmmmm acceptance....who am i looking for aceptance from the person or my mind....trust god and believe that when needed the right words will come
believe me i have learnt the hard way because for ages i tried to give the great answers to the point that i would miss the sharing or conversation.
God and +ve intuition are so cool if i allow them to flow through me when needed
light and love zac
mmmmm acceptance....who am i looking for aceptance from the person or my mind....trust god and believe that when needed the right words will come
believe me i have learnt the hard way because for ages i tried to give the great answers to the point that i would miss the sharing or conversation.
God and +ve intuition are so cool if i allow them to flow through me when needed
light and love zac
Hi Stacey & Zac (and all y'all).
Yep, doing fine, working my steps (on to 10th with some 9th stuff that will probably pop up from time to time), working on acceptance, and staying sober. I'm here everyday, seemingly, because it helps me stay sober.
Off to a meeting in about 30 minutes--thought I'd check in with the rest of my sick friends. :) Glad you're all still okay--worried about you there for a bit, Z.
Yep, doing fine, working my steps (on to 10th with some 9th stuff that will probably pop up from time to time), working on acceptance, and staying sober. I'm here everyday, seemingly, because it helps me stay sober.
Off to a meeting in about 30 minutes--thought I'd check in with the rest of my sick friends. :) Glad you're all still okay--worried about you there for a bit, Z.
Hi SKG,
No I haven't watched ER since Clooney and crew were a board. I've been to busy being drunk to focus on to much TV over the last few yrs. Thanks for the tip I'll make a note of it. Funny the only show I watched that I tried to be sober to tune into for was 24. And it's not just the writer's strike as to why it's not being aired this season. Mr. Sutherland will be doing some jail time do to a DUI. Hope he finds his HP and some acceptance. No not just for a fan like me. For himself as I know as we all know hear on this board the suffering we cause ourselves and others.
I did watch Intervention this wk the first episode was about an alcoholic and the second was a pain pill addict. I read the PP board and never realized what these poor folks went thru, oh man they really do suffer. I like the show not as to watch people suffer but, it reminds me of me. Surely makes me not want to drink! If any bodies interested there is a new show starting this coming Thu. at 10:00 pm pst.on VH1 called celebrity rehab with Dr. Drew Pinski. I watched the premier this wk. It was very realistic and I like Dr Drew. Jeff Conway is addicted to alcohol & coke he's very ill they had to rush him to ER,
I could relate to the show ER'S principle in that alcoholic's are trying harder than others to fix their problems than others. Could be some of us have created bigger problems do to alcohol. With that said and done.
I definately need plenty of help from God. I do have to pray before I speak because I certainly don't have all the answers. There are times I forget to pray and forget that tone of voice also needs to be prayed for. I do find it easier to type here then to speak in a group. I feel like my words the other night at the meeting didn't flow smoothly because I was feeling afraid. I was asked to speak and I should have passed. But on the other hand since I'm learning to be an optimist maybe there was something I said that helped another person.
I have to keep praying and turning things over because I'm always going to be a work in progress. And thats a good thing because I now know who the boss is. I can argue with God all I want but in the end he's going to win and I'm going to waste alot of time and have strife. And how do I know because I've done it to much of my life. The good thing is he will take that and use something good for it even if I can't see it right away. This is what I believe it doesn't have to be what other's believe.
Have A Good Weekend!
No I haven't watched ER since Clooney and crew were a board. I've been to busy being drunk to focus on to much TV over the last few yrs. Thanks for the tip I'll make a note of it. Funny the only show I watched that I tried to be sober to tune into for was 24. And it's not just the writer's strike as to why it's not being aired this season. Mr. Sutherland will be doing some jail time do to a DUI. Hope he finds his HP and some acceptance. No not just for a fan like me. For himself as I know as we all know hear on this board the suffering we cause ourselves and others.
I did watch Intervention this wk the first episode was about an alcoholic and the second was a pain pill addict. I read the PP board and never realized what these poor folks went thru, oh man they really do suffer. I like the show not as to watch people suffer but, it reminds me of me. Surely makes me not want to drink! If any bodies interested there is a new show starting this coming Thu. at 10:00 pm pst.on VH1 called celebrity rehab with Dr. Drew Pinski. I watched the premier this wk. It was very realistic and I like Dr Drew. Jeff Conway is addicted to alcohol & coke he's very ill they had to rush him to ER,
I could relate to the show ER'S principle in that alcoholic's are trying harder than others to fix their problems than others. Could be some of us have created bigger problems do to alcohol. With that said and done.
I definately need plenty of help from God. I do have to pray before I speak because I certainly don't have all the answers. There are times I forget to pray and forget that tone of voice also needs to be prayed for. I do find it easier to type here then to speak in a group. I feel like my words the other night at the meeting didn't flow smoothly because I was feeling afraid. I was asked to speak and I should have passed. But on the other hand since I'm learning to be an optimist maybe there was something I said that helped another person.
I have to keep praying and turning things over because I'm always going to be a work in progress. And thats a good thing because I now know who the boss is. I can argue with God all I want but in the end he's going to win and I'm going to waste alot of time and have strife. And how do I know because I've done it to much of my life. The good thing is he will take that and use something good for it even if I can't see it right away. This is what I believe it doesn't have to be what other's believe.
Have A Good Weekend!
Hi, Lookinup. I understand the whole, "Tongue-Tied," in a group setting thing. For me, alot of it used to stem from trying to think of something meaningful to say as the share went around the room. By the time it was my turn I hadn't listened--I'd only heard--and so I'd blurt out something self-effacing or self-abusive to get the others to laugh and like my share. I just wanted to be accepted and liked for being witty and charming. I came of as a complete crash dummy!
Little did I know that they already accepted me for being a member of the group--Principles before personalities--and the whole comic routine had only been tried by every other newcomer before me trying to cover up for their self-loathing and feeling of inadequacies. I had to learn to accept that--and to work my Program for me, not everyone else in the room. Acceptance is the key. Granting every person, place or thing the same grace in my mind that I wanted to have is a daily reprieve from the chains of my own self-seeking. That's a daily project for me.
I'm closing in on another sobriety milestone, but for me the next shiny object isn't what keeps me sober. It's the faith I have that if I keep doing the same stuff that I did yesterday, I'll stay sober yesterday. My recovery program is the most important thing to me anymore--and it didn't always used to be that way--and a lot of times I just need to be quiet and let MY Higher Power, whom I'll call God, speak to me through others. I've found that I've been given two ears and only one mouth for a reason. They don't always work, but when they do--in high definition stereo recovery--I'm learning patience and understanding. And the sounds of MY silence.
Whatever works.
Little did I know that they already accepted me for being a member of the group--Principles before personalities--and the whole comic routine had only been tried by every other newcomer before me trying to cover up for their self-loathing and feeling of inadequacies. I had to learn to accept that--and to work my Program for me, not everyone else in the room. Acceptance is the key. Granting every person, place or thing the same grace in my mind that I wanted to have is a daily reprieve from the chains of my own self-seeking. That's a daily project for me.
I'm closing in on another sobriety milestone, but for me the next shiny object isn't what keeps me sober. It's the faith I have that if I keep doing the same stuff that I did yesterday, I'll stay sober yesterday. My recovery program is the most important thing to me anymore--and it didn't always used to be that way--and a lot of times I just need to be quiet and let MY Higher Power, whom I'll call God, speak to me through others. I've found that I've been given two ears and only one mouth for a reason. They don't always work, but when they do--in high definition stereo recovery--I'm learning patience and understanding. And the sounds of MY silence.
Whatever works.
replying to your post about knowing or wanting the right thing to say. Is that a trait of us alocholics or what? It seemed to me when I was drinking I was witty and I could carry on a good conversation with ease. Now that I am sober I feel like I cant contribute much and I find it difficult to talk to anyone because it seems like I cant twhat I say -and it appears to me to be so lame some of the things I do say. When I was drinking it seems thoughts and words flowed so easily in responding to others. Now it seems I have to work at just having a decent conversation about the weather. Did anyone else experience that when they gave up drinking at first?. well guys take care and God Bless
made a typing error on other post. i meant to type I cant think of anything to say
Gidday All
Hey pirate if you ever want to edit a post for a mistake just after you post if you go back into the thread and no one else has posted just push edit and you can get back into your post and also if you want to check your post before posting you can push preview post etc
I have sat in meetings and seen people just burst into tears, or say this is all bulsh@t, or just ramble because there mind is going at 100mph...and i can relate totally to there recovery and it helps my recovery just too see them keep coming back and getting better and better as the fog clears and the promises kick in
light and love zac
Hey pirate if you ever want to edit a post for a mistake just after you post if you go back into the thread and no one else has posted just push edit and you can get back into your post and also if you want to check your post before posting you can push preview post etc
I have sat in meetings and seen people just burst into tears, or say this is all bulsh@t, or just ramble because there mind is going at 100mph...and i can relate totally to there recovery and it helps my recovery just too see them keep coming back and getting better and better as the fog clears and the promises kick in
light and love zac
Yeah. I used to think I could dance when I was drinking, too. When I started to take the "Me" out of the picture or the "I speak for everyone else when," or "My opinion counts more," or, "I'm so damned funny," there's really not alot to talk about--especially when self-seeking and selfish behaviour was all I ever knew.
I had to stop taking others' inventories and start taking my own--and listening ALOT to what the guys/gals with a good stretch of 24 hours had to say. They were staying sober and I wanted what they have. It's tough not to say, "We alcoholics," but I can't speak for all of them--that's presumptuous and self-seeking. It also used to keep me from facing the real problem with my addictions: Me.
I had to stop taking others' inventories and start taking my own--and listening ALOT to what the guys/gals with a good stretch of 24 hours had to say. They were staying sober and I wanted what they have. It's tough not to say, "We alcoholics," but I can't speak for all of them--that's presumptuous and self-seeking. It also used to keep me from facing the real problem with my addictions: Me.
