This Is So Not Cool !!

Pain Pills
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Marina,
Glad to hear you have great WILLPOWER, that is exactly what you need right now. Be strong honey and like you said you don't need to go back,just keep moving forward. Best of Luck to you,Rae
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Naw, John is right. Us guys need a big kick sometimes, because we can be so hardheaded, a 2x4 wouldn't do any good...I always tell my wife that guys are "goofballs"..it's the women that hold things together...us guys are all like 8 years old......looking for the new toy, the new thing..and when we get older, the new drug...so you ladies, feel free to beat up on us, because we all pretty much deserve it...you are "Momma Lion", out there hunting and geting food for the babies..we are "Daddy Lion"..we look real good up front, but get lazy and act stupid.
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Danny I know what you mean,about the "safe feeling", that is the way I feel. If I have them I don't have to take them but just knowing that they are there makes me feel good and that is a sickness. Also the "warm" feeling your sister-in-law was talking about I used to get that. I know what she means. Once you get down to 5-10mg a day that feeling really isn't there much anymore. A slight bit of energy and a sense of being"normal"again may be there but that's about it for me. My withdrawls aren't that bad since the whole tapper down thing. the leg pains are about it. I also know what you mean about not allowing your self to get to a certain point with taking to many pills because of your experience with Xanax and how hard it was for you to recover from that. That is how I feel from my methadone experience a couple years ago. That is why I have never taken that many mg of hydro per day( n fear of withdrawl).
Neon is right no matter how many or how long addiction is addiction-plain and simple. By the way neon you had me cracking up at your little signs.Rae
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Rae- Let me tell you about Xanax, which I think is an evil drug. When I got off them, which I did TOO fast, it took probably 10 weeks to feel normal. I mean, the SLIGHTEST bit of normal. Xanax is way more mental than physical, like say Vicodin. My Mom dies In January. Also I got really sick, not related to drugs or anything. But, when I decided to quit the Xanax stuff, I was laying on the couch one night because I could not sleep. I was NOT asleep. I looked out the window and saw my mother floating out there and tapping on the window. Another time, I saw the walls "breathing". They were moving in and out. Another time, I heard the house "groaning"...turns out it was my Golden snoring..and the worst..and I mean the worst..was I was laying on the couch, going through wd's, and I look up and saw the Grim Reaper pointing at me..I'm actually a very stable person. What is was is benzo's really mess up your mind. There is a manual on-line about the wd's and what people go through. If anyone wants the link, I'll post it. I'm a textbook case of it. So, before anyone says "Dan is a weirdo wacknut" or what ever, understand what those drugs can do to you. Yep, these opiates are tough, but nothing compared to a benzo. An opiate will make you feel "warm". A benzo will make you insane if you don't quit in time. And the problem is, when you do quit, you do feel insane. I'm like 150% cool now with the head. I just had to get over that benzo "hump". THATS why I am so afraid of the Vic's even though I take such a small amount. And I take them for 100% legit pain which I don't want to get into here. It like I don't EVER want to experience that again. The problem is Doc's give out Benzo's like they are candy. You know. Valium, Xanax, Ativan...whatever...so my advice to YOU ALL...is ya, a benzo will help you in wd's of an opiate in the SHORT term..like 4-5 days....just don't trade one for the other...by the way, those were only four examples..I can give you 50 equally bad and worse examples...it's not a 4-5 day wd like opiates. It's weeks for some (like me) or years for others...thank God for me it lasted only weeks.
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Danny- I know what you mean about taking a LONG TIME to recover,mentally and physically. I was on methadone for 2 1/2 years and I can't imagaine there is a greater withdrawl than that. Besides Benzo's like you say. I can totally relate. I was a mess and I have no idea how I got clean and got through that. All I can say is GOD was with me. All the way! It took me a few months to feel better. The first month I couldn't even leave the house or get out of bed. I was REAL bad. Anyway, glad that part is behind us. If I can help you in anyway, Please let me know.Rae
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Rae- I'm feeling really good now. I just posted that as a warning to people who think benzo's are a way out of this..because they aren't. And the Doc's give 'em out left and right.