I didnt' get on the computer until noon today so I missed your thread before it got locked.
My best friend's house burned last night. It was so incrediably scary.
She called me at 3:30am and I got there just as the fire fighters were getting a handle on it. Mostly structure damage outside and to the roof, but bad smoke damage inside. She and her girls got out, so that's all important. They're living with us until they figure something out.
So anyway, now that I got that off my chest (fire really freaks me out), I wanted to say that I appreciate your post.
I want the rest of you to know that I don't wish Medusa any ill will. I just don't think she belongs on this board. She's not interested in recovery and is way beyond any of us as far as helping her. She needs medical and emotional help.
This is an addiction recovery board. People aren't always honest about everything but that's what addicts do, they lie. Hopefully after spending some time here they realize that rigorous honesty is the key to recovery and that they can practice that here. No, we don't judge a person for not telling the truth, we commend them when they do. But people like Medusa are bigger than what we can offer. And like I said, she doesn't want recovery, she wants someone to play with. I really hope she gets some help. She seems like an intelligent, artistic young women. It's really a shame.
It's been a long day....
cowgirl
Lisa
So very sorry to hear about your friends house, that is a frighning thing to happen........I Know 1st hand, On jan.31,1991, My house went up in flames, lost eveything I Ever owned, but my life........The funny part of my fire is, I Was in Rehab........2 days from coming home, thank God I Wasn't there, but my 19 year old son was, he got out ok, Thank God, It was an apt. no insurance but we just started over........It was hard, but I Didn't drink over it, that's 15 yrs. now
We know the landlord set it, Fire dept.said it was arson, but they never did a thing to that b******..........Karma will bite him in the a**,
That which doesn't kill me makes me stronger!!
I Will pray for your friend
Love Dottie
So very sorry to hear about your friends house, that is a frighning thing to happen........I Know 1st hand, On jan.31,1991, My house went up in flames, lost eveything I Ever owned, but my life........The funny part of my fire is, I Was in Rehab........2 days from coming home, thank God I Wasn't there, but my 19 year old son was, he got out ok, Thank God, It was an apt. no insurance but we just started over........It was hard, but I Didn't drink over it, that's 15 yrs. now
We know the landlord set it, Fire dept.said it was arson, but they never did a thing to that b******..........Karma will bite him in the a**,
That which doesn't kill me makes me stronger!!
I Will pray for your friend
Love Dottie
Thank you Dottie and wow, what you've gone through! A fire is by far, the scariest thing I can think of. I had my husband checking smoke alarms today and putting more in down at the rec-room.
Cowgirl
Cowgirl
You are such a sweetheart CG opening your home like that. I pray that your friend and family get a lot of prayers and help their way.
I read in the other thread about your mom, i'll be praying for you and her also.
I read in the other thread about your mom, i'll be praying for you and her also.
cowgirl,
very scary, kinda weird i had a lil house fire myself yesterday, the things that raced through my head as it all went down and amazingly how calm and in control i am in a crisis, but after i had it all in control omg i laughed and cried and then i freaked out!!
my furnace caught my laundry room on fire while i was on the phone, i think i freaked out our poor rae as well (sorry chica) and thanks too : )
anyways i am glad your friends are all safe, you are an angel, cause of all the things i was thinking is awe man i gotta put this thing out, i got no where to live and i am not living with any one i know, half the days i can barely stand living with myself let alone some one else lol joking :D seriously your post has made me extremely grateful to have saved my home. prolly wasnt to smart of me, but all is well on my homefront and god certainly was on my side yesterday.
terrianne
very scary, kinda weird i had a lil house fire myself yesterday, the things that raced through my head as it all went down and amazingly how calm and in control i am in a crisis, but after i had it all in control omg i laughed and cried and then i freaked out!!
my furnace caught my laundry room on fire while i was on the phone, i think i freaked out our poor rae as well (sorry chica) and thanks too : )
anyways i am glad your friends are all safe, you are an angel, cause of all the things i was thinking is awe man i gotta put this thing out, i got no where to live and i am not living with any one i know, half the days i can barely stand living with myself let alone some one else lol joking :D seriously your post has made me extremely grateful to have saved my home. prolly wasnt to smart of me, but all is well on my homefront and god certainly was on my side yesterday.
terrianne
Oh Boo....I'm so glad you and your house are ok. It makes me shudder to think of the horrible damage that fire can do. I really have a phobia about it.
It's nice to see you post darlin. I miss your bright dispostion.
Janet...she would do it for me in heart beat. We've been friends since high school and that is a very long time. <g>
xxx
Cg
It's nice to see you post darlin. I miss your bright dispostion.
Janet...she would do it for me in heart beat. We've been friends since high school and that is a very long time. <g>
xxx
Cg
Cowgirl I am sorry to hear about your friends house. I lived through a house fire once when I was 10. It burned to the ground and we were able to get out at 3 am.. I know how devasting it can be to lose everything and have that smell of smoke on your for months later. Thank goodness she has a friend like you she can stay with.... I hope everything works out for her...
Terrianne you did scare that crap out of me yesturday. It was scary to hear you say oh my I smell smoke and then say Rae I think my house is on fire let me go.. Then I was thinking OMG now what do I do? Call her back while she is talking to 911. What if I am never able to talk to Terrianne again and she burned in the fire or she lost her house. Lots of different things were going through my mind before I called you back. You had me freaked out girl. I was running around the house like a chicken withmy head cut off thinking how big was the fire and was she able to put it out.. I am happy to hear you poured water on all your clothes and got it under control... I know you were a mess yesturday. So was I...
Rae
Terrianne you did scare that crap out of me yesturday. It was scary to hear you say oh my I smell smoke and then say Rae I think my house is on fire let me go.. Then I was thinking OMG now what do I do? Call her back while she is talking to 911. What if I am never able to talk to Terrianne again and she burned in the fire or she lost her house. Lots of different things were going through my mind before I called you back. You had me freaked out girl. I was running around the house like a chicken withmy head cut off thinking how big was the fire and was she able to put it out.. I am happy to hear you poured water on all your clothes and got it under control... I know you were a mess yesturday. So was I...
Rae
Lisa Im sorry to hear about your friend.I am totally scared of fire its one of my biggest fears.Your so great for taking them in until they figure something out.I know your friend must be grateful.
Now about the subject at hand,What you said about medusa reminded me of the way I felt about "K"sometimes as much as we would like sometimes some people need more love & care than even this board can give.We can only pray that anyone who is that lost will find their way....mj
Now about the subject at hand,What you said about medusa reminded me of the way I felt about "K"sometimes as much as we would like sometimes some people need more love & care than even this board can give.We can only pray that anyone who is that lost will find their way....mj
Lisa,
That's just awful about your friend's house. When Dani and Jesi were babies, my Mom kept them for me while I worked and went to school. One day, my aunt called and said, "DeNae, did you know your parents house was on fire?" It scared me to death! I didn't know if they were in the house or what. My Dad was out of town, so I raced home and arrived at the same time as my Mom. Luckily, she had taken the girls with her to drop the cat off at the vet. They had just built that house too. It was demolished. The only good thing, is they managed to put it out before it reached the garage. My Dad's old truck was inside and it had a gas leak. They determined that the cause was a lamp cord. The cord was bent and the wires inside broke and shorted out. It was unreal... the devastation of it all.
That's just awful about your friend's house. When Dani and Jesi were babies, my Mom kept them for me while I worked and went to school. One day, my aunt called and said, "DeNae, did you know your parents house was on fire?" It scared me to death! I didn't know if they were in the house or what. My Dad was out of town, so I raced home and arrived at the same time as my Mom. Luckily, she had taken the girls with her to drop the cat off at the vet. They had just built that house too. It was demolished. The only good thing, is they managed to put it out before it reached the garage. My Dad's old truck was inside and it had a gas leak. They determined that the cause was a lamp cord. The cord was bent and the wires inside broke and shorted out. It was unreal... the devastation of it all.
rae,
lol whew i know what a crazy thing to have happened and i felt like such a hero untill you called back and we explained to your boyfriend what went down and he said i might have blown up or have a gas leak!!!! yikes!!! good thing to know AFTER the fact!!!!! oh well all in a womans days work lol right? thats what i'm talking about anyway hehehe seriously though again thanks for being there and for billies input so that i could know to call the right people!! you rock. your my hero!! you saved my life!!!! how can i ever repay you!!! ok maybe i am being a lil over dramatic now lol you know i love you <3 thanks for the many laughs those are far more better then saving my life any day : D
terrianne
lol whew i know what a crazy thing to have happened and i felt like such a hero untill you called back and we explained to your boyfriend what went down and he said i might have blown up or have a gas leak!!!! yikes!!! good thing to know AFTER the fact!!!!! oh well all in a womans days work lol right? thats what i'm talking about anyway hehehe seriously though again thanks for being there and for billies input so that i could know to call the right people!! you rock. your my hero!! you saved my life!!!! how can i ever repay you!!! ok maybe i am being a lil over dramatic now lol you know i love you <3 thanks for the many laughs those are far more better then saving my life any day : D
terrianne
Hi Cowgirl, really sorry to hear about your friends fire, the good thing is they are safe but still what a nightmare. It's all the precious things that you can't replace that hurts. Still good on you helping them out, although I have had a friend live with me b4 and it drove me mad. Still very good of you, I would do all again if I could help anyone, Hope they are all ok and yourselfxx take care
I've heard from so many on here to take what you need and leave the rest. It's not for me or anyone else to say who belongs here and who doesn't. Addicts belong here, and sometimes they're not thinking straight. Imagine that. Also said repeatedly...if you don't like what you read, move on. As for honesty...we all do our best, whitewash at times, make things worse at times. I'll readily admit, most don't go to such extremes, but I have NO way of knowing whether Medusa's medical condition is legtimate. Dr.'s can say some f**cked up things...been there. But this woman is obviously in need, in denial, in pain mentally and physically and because she doesn't meet your high standards of honesty she should go? Took me 6 months to quit everything. I'd have been devastated had anyone treated me this way over the last 6 months. May God have mercy on us all. Beck
I won't apologize for having a high standard of honesty, Beck and sometimes I expect it of others and it's unreasonable. They are incapable.
My point in saying (and it's just my opinion, last time I checked, I was allowed that just like you) that Medusa didn't belong here is that she isn't interested in recovery and this is a recovery board. That simple. All she wants is sympathy and to play with people's emotions and good intentions. That's a sick person alright and she needs more than what we can give her.
Cowgirl
My point in saying (and it's just my opinion, last time I checked, I was allowed that just like you) that Medusa didn't belong here is that she isn't interested in recovery and this is a recovery board. That simple. All she wants is sympathy and to play with people's emotions and good intentions. That's a sick person alright and she needs more than what we can give her.
Cowgirl
Cowgirl, I neither requested or require an apology...furthest thing from my mind. Your 'high' standard of honesty comes at least in part from a year of sobriety. This/your standard is a bit hard for those of us still not right in the head and very new at this. I don't mean to imply you don't still walk this road like the rest of us. You're just a bit ahead of myself and medusa. She breaks my heart...I feel compassion. You can't get by/over her sad tactics, me, I don't take it so personal. But I can imagine what it must feel like to be so vilified...whether I lied or not. This is in no way directed only at you. I mean no harm. As we seek mercy, so should we grant it. Beck
Ok Beck..before this goes any further, I'm sorry if I sounded bitchy, didn't mean too. It's been a really long day.
I feel compassion for her too, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered with any of this. I don't get a kick out of any of it. It makes me incrediably sad. I hate seeing people twisted up here.
You are no where like her, so I'm not sure why you compare yourself. You don't use people's emotions to get attention. I may have over a year but I'm still really new to this. I've lived like this for 26 years so turning it around for only a year isn't much...I just tend to call it like I see it. Maybe I shouldn't....
XXX
Lisa
I feel compassion for her too, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered with any of this. I don't get a kick out of any of it. It makes me incrediably sad. I hate seeing people twisted up here.
You are no where like her, so I'm not sure why you compare yourself. You don't use people's emotions to get attention. I may have over a year but I'm still really new to this. I've lived like this for 26 years so turning it around for only a year isn't much...I just tend to call it like I see it. Maybe I shouldn't....
XXX
Lisa
15 years ago,while I was at work, my ex-wife was cooking in our rented house . My son(our son) was 3 1/2 years old at the time,taking an afternoon nap.
To make this a short story ,she ran out of booze and thought it would be no big deal to walk to the store up the block . It would only take 5 minutes. She left the kid napping and took off.
Well in the 5 minutes she was gone ,a flame caught a towel,the towel caught the kitchen curtains ,and in moments it was out of control.
A cop driving by saw smoke and called the FD. When she returned thier were fire engines on the way,cop cars all over,and the nieghbors of course were all over the place.Justin(son)was getting resusitated on the front lawn.
I got a call at work with this news and drove 100 mph to the hospital. -A fireman with an air pack risked his life by going in this pitch black inferno to rescue justin who was passed out on the floor of his bedroom.
Thank GOD he only had smoke inhalation and was ok after a few days in the hospital.
Well- that was the straw that ended that marriage. I got custody and placed him safely into my parents house while I batteled my heroin addiction.
When I ended up stabalizing my life by getting on methadone,I moved into my parents house and tried to be the best dad I could be.
Now its all this time later,Im still in the apartment upstairs from mom. Dad has since passed away.Im still on methadone. His mom is a bad alcoholic in a different town.
I cant believe I just relived that whole thing ,so long ago,but anytime I hear a story about a house fire,it sends chills up my spine.
To this day Justin writes to the fireman who saved his life ,we drive down and see him at least once a year. He is now retired and lives with his wife and adopted son. The quiet life of a REAL hero.
I rarely tell this story,I guess the topic hit a nerve at just the right time for me to share it.
Thanks for listening to a part of a strangers life that often remains buried away.
love
jack
To make this a short story ,she ran out of booze and thought it would be no big deal to walk to the store up the block . It would only take 5 minutes. She left the kid napping and took off.
Well in the 5 minutes she was gone ,a flame caught a towel,the towel caught the kitchen curtains ,and in moments it was out of control.
A cop driving by saw smoke and called the FD. When she returned thier were fire engines on the way,cop cars all over,and the nieghbors of course were all over the place.Justin(son)was getting resusitated on the front lawn.
I got a call at work with this news and drove 100 mph to the hospital. -A fireman with an air pack risked his life by going in this pitch black inferno to rescue justin who was passed out on the floor of his bedroom.
Thank GOD he only had smoke inhalation and was ok after a few days in the hospital.
Well- that was the straw that ended that marriage. I got custody and placed him safely into my parents house while I batteled my heroin addiction.
When I ended up stabalizing my life by getting on methadone,I moved into my parents house and tried to be the best dad I could be.
Now its all this time later,Im still in the apartment upstairs from mom. Dad has since passed away.Im still on methadone. His mom is a bad alcoholic in a different town.
I cant believe I just relived that whole thing ,so long ago,but anytime I hear a story about a house fire,it sends chills up my spine.
To this day Justin writes to the fireman who saved his life ,we drive down and see him at least once a year. He is now retired and lives with his wife and adopted son. The quiet life of a REAL hero.
I rarely tell this story,I guess the topic hit a nerve at just the right time for me to share it.
Thanks for listening to a part of a strangers life that often remains buried away.
love
jack
Oh no babygirl, call it any way you want. I do too. Sometimes, people just see it differently, that's all. (Sorry for the babygirl...gotta new girl kitty today, it's on my lips) I've seen you pour a great deal of energy into this board and medusa specifically. I know/believe your motives are the purest...please know that. I'm a little raw myself and can only imagine where you are after being up all night watching a dear friend lose much. And may I again thank you for sharing all of the insight you've gained in your short year. I know a year does not make for the most solid ground. I too have only lived drug abuse. I'm still learning to accept myself and who I've been. Can't quite yet see who I might become. So I see myself in every needy soul on here.
But I thank you Lisa, for reaching out, for sharing the AA meditations, which by the way I've missed and am very glad you're not mad at me. God Bless you and your friends. I wish them a speedy recovery! Beck
But I thank you Lisa, for reaching out, for sharing the AA meditations, which by the way I've missed and am very glad you're not mad at me. God Bless you and your friends. I wish them a speedy recovery! Beck
jack....i have tears in my eyes and a sob caught in my throat....
God Bless You for being your sons Guardian Angel!!!
My oldest son is named Justin and it just hit home...tears are falling!!!
and God Bless his rescuer, geez, can't believe i left that out...had to go blow my nose...
my Daddy was a volunteer fireman....this story brought home an event that happened when i was in second grade...my mom had brought me to school to see me in a play (yippee, I was a tree!)...anyway we came home and there were fire engines all over the yard...thank heavens it was just a chimney fire...but when Cowgirl first mentioned this, I flashed back to that night of being a scared little girl....worried about her daddy...
I think the worst thing he ever had to do was pull the bodies of two boys out of a pond that wasn't quite frozen...or at least that's the only thing I remember him talking about.
God Bless You for being your sons Guardian Angel!!!
My oldest son is named Justin and it just hit home...tears are falling!!!
and God Bless his rescuer, geez, can't believe i left that out...had to go blow my nose...
my Daddy was a volunteer fireman....this story brought home an event that happened when i was in second grade...my mom had brought me to school to see me in a play (yippee, I was a tree!)...anyway we came home and there were fire engines all over the yard...thank heavens it was just a chimney fire...but when Cowgirl first mentioned this, I flashed back to that night of being a scared little girl....worried about her daddy...
I think the worst thing he ever had to do was pull the bodies of two boys out of a pond that wasn't quite frozen...or at least that's the only thing I remember him talking about.
Dear Jack,
I'm so glad your story had a 'happy' ending. How wonderful to know a hero first hand. In my estimation tho' you're one too. You may still be on MM, but your everything a father should be. You seem like the kind of man who can accomplish anything he wants. Keep at it! Your son is blessed in more ways then one. Beck
I'm so glad your story had a 'happy' ending. How wonderful to know a hero first hand. In my estimation tho' you're one too. You may still be on MM, but your everything a father should be. You seem like the kind of man who can accomplish anything he wants. Keep at it! Your son is blessed in more ways then one. Beck
I could never be mad at someone who helps keep me grounded, Beck. That's something you've always done for me. And the babygirl part? Nice to be called that instead of what I was called last night on this board. Love it.
We are still raw. I think that people that have had many years of clean are still raw. It's a never ending, never stop learning kind of battle. Sometimes my passion doesn't come across as compassion, but it's there, trust me.
Jack...thank you so much for sharing that story. I could tell it took a lot for you to write it. I have this vision of your son on the front lawn now that I can't get out of my head. He had his guardian angel there with him that day.
Your ex-wife? She's not a bad alcoholic, she's sick, just like you. Have you forgiven her? Has your son? I know it's hard to forgive something like that, but it might help you in your own recovery.
Much love and respect to you all
Cowgirl
We are still raw. I think that people that have had many years of clean are still raw. It's a never ending, never stop learning kind of battle. Sometimes my passion doesn't come across as compassion, but it's there, trust me.
Jack...thank you so much for sharing that story. I could tell it took a lot for you to write it. I have this vision of your son on the front lawn now that I can't get out of my head. He had his guardian angel there with him that day.
Your ex-wife? She's not a bad alcoholic, she's sick, just like you. Have you forgiven her? Has your son? I know it's hard to forgive something like that, but it might help you in your own recovery.
Much love and respect to you all
Cowgirl
