Hi everyone,
I couldn't sleep last night because I kept thinking how I reacted here on the board last night. Rae, You were right, What I said was way out of line. I shouldn't had said that.
See, I am concerned about Danny's girls. I know what it's like to grow up in a home like that. When people say he won't let anything happen to them, what you are saying is he'll protect them maybe physically. What about emotionally, or mentally? Those girls are watching their mom get drunk night after night and beating up on Dad, to the point, Danny said himself that there is blood still all over the walls.
Anyway, I'm a true believer that things should be said out of compassion, not anger like the way it was said by me last night. I just want to apologize to everyone. I'm the last to judge anybody on this board. I have problems just as everyone else does on here. I just get over sensitive when it comes to kids.
I just started counseling and maybe we can get to the bottom of why I react as I do sometimes. Sorry everyone. I can't tell you all how bad I feel about last night. I'm staying away from the boards for while. I have to work on me. Not my place to try and fix others. I should had just shut up last night and not allowed the anger get the best of me.
Danny, I know you have a big heart and you love your girls. Good luck to you and them. I hope you can figure out a way to help them and yourself. Nobody should have to live like that.
Dear Liz I didn't see where you were mean but I was on about 4 pm or so & saw some drama starting so I signed off.You are probaly just a very passianate person and I think you probaly didn't mean any harm.I have found that at times here our emoitions kinda kick up & its no wonder with this site.Most of us are having a hard time & sometimes we say things that sound the wrong way but are meant to try to help....mj ps as far as danny I think alot of us feel that way because there are kids involved I'm sure you meant well......mj
LIz,
I have no idea what went on last night as I wasnt on but I talked briefly with a few so I know a little... but let me say... that I have known you and by your post today you are amazing me daily... I mean that...
I know your passion concerning children as it equals mine in this instance and context I imagine ( that is all I am saying about that....) and your coming here and admitting when you percieve you were out of line takes a lot of courage and shows integrity and tells me you are growing in your recovery as well as allowing the real liz to come out... the one that others told me all along that was there....
Congrats... and thank you ....
Please dont stay away unless you really need to.. (I understand that ....if you do)... you are helping me too you know...
Teresa
I have no idea what went on last night as I wasnt on but I talked briefly with a few so I know a little... but let me say... that I have known you and by your post today you are amazing me daily... I mean that...
I know your passion concerning children as it equals mine in this instance and context I imagine ( that is all I am saying about that....) and your coming here and admitting when you percieve you were out of line takes a lot of courage and shows integrity and tells me you are growing in your recovery as well as allowing the real liz to come out... the one that others told me all along that was there....
Congrats... and thank you ....
Please dont stay away unless you really need to.. (I understand that ....if you do)... you are helping me too you know...
Teresa
Liz- Thanks. I love my girls, thats for sure. How did I get 3 "daddy's girls"? My kids all are at my side day and night and I have 5 of them. I love them and I protect them. That is my job right now. As long as I can keep them out of things, they will be OK. They are running around like a bunch of "imps" but I chase them around.hehe..my one daughter always wants "lovins, hugs and kissin". But they are all so sweet.
hey teresa I have seen a couple different people here take their steps forward and it helps me see myself as a recovering addict oppose to an addict.Hope you are doing well....mj
danny I truly love to hear you talk about your kids.What you say about them and just how much you need them I think is so awesome.And I think all of us just want you to find your way to a safe happy life.Isn't that what all people deserve?mj
yes MJ it is nice to be able to put that wonderful word 'recovering' in from of addict... addict is hard enough to get out of our mouth... recovering made it a little easier at least for me...lol...
an yes I am doing ok.....thank you... still tired as my mom is still in the hospital but all in all... it will be ok..
Teresa
an yes I am doing ok.....thank you... still tired as my mom is still in the hospital but all in all... it will be ok..
Teresa
Yes I read your post about your mom and hope and pray she is doing better.You do need to get some rest though getting run down will only make you weak.Please know my thoughts are with you and I am always around at sometimes if I can help.....mj
Ter- How is your Mom? Is she going to be ok?
dearest liz -
without a doubt, this is one of the most genuine, loving messages i have ever read on a message board.
when you said:
Not my place to try and fix others.
reminded me of when i want other people's recovery more than they do, i'm the one who is in trouble! :O
anyhoot - i didn't see, nor do i really want to know of what transpired here last night. i turned off my computer a little after 8, decided to fix an omelet and low and behold clogged up my sink (i mean i pulled a doozie trick by doing that)! i spent the next hour trying to unclog it...never did get unclogged and had to call someone today to fix it. i don't know how i got off onto that rant.
i believe we are all spiritual beings and we have these human moments. i sure have had my share of them (human moments) and still do. like "m" says - it's the path/progress we make. when we do things like make an amend when it is needed what an incredible action of love this is. to nuture oneself or/and another to a higher spiritual plateau is love and our spiritual essence taking charge.
thanks for loving me with this message today, liz.
namaste'
sammy
without a doubt, this is one of the most genuine, loving messages i have ever read on a message board.
when you said:
Not my place to try and fix others.
reminded me of when i want other people's recovery more than they do, i'm the one who is in trouble! :O
anyhoot - i didn't see, nor do i really want to know of what transpired here last night. i turned off my computer a little after 8, decided to fix an omelet and low and behold clogged up my sink (i mean i pulled a doozie trick by doing that)! i spent the next hour trying to unclog it...never did get unclogged and had to call someone today to fix it. i don't know how i got off onto that rant.
i believe we are all spiritual beings and we have these human moments. i sure have had my share of them (human moments) and still do. like "m" says - it's the path/progress we make. when we do things like make an amend when it is needed what an incredible action of love this is. to nuture oneself or/and another to a higher spiritual plateau is love and our spiritual essence taking charge.
thanks for loving me with this message today, liz.
namaste'
sammy
Liz,
Great post. I think you show true growth lately. It's easy to get caught up in the emotion of something and then not contain what we say, feel or do.
I'm most happy that you took a step back and questioned your own involvement and then came back to say you were sorry. Just that you went back and looked at it is a great thing. It's easy to explode, blame or put our stuff on another. Esp. when we get this one sided view from the internet. Then it's easy to make an excuse like well we are addicts or whatever to make our actions 'right'. It's a bit harder to take responsibility for our response or to go back and make amends. This shows true growth and I just wanted to say thanks for your post.
love,
pm
Great post. I think you show true growth lately. It's easy to get caught up in the emotion of something and then not contain what we say, feel or do.
I'm most happy that you took a step back and questioned your own involvement and then came back to say you were sorry. Just that you went back and looked at it is a great thing. It's easy to explode, blame or put our stuff on another. Esp. when we get this one sided view from the internet. Then it's easy to make an excuse like well we are addicts or whatever to make our actions 'right'. It's a bit harder to take responsibility for our response or to go back and make amends. This shows true growth and I just wanted to say thanks for your post.
love,
pm
Hi Liz,
You amaze me more every day. It took alot of courage to post what you did. It shows how much you really do care. You have grown so much, Liz. I am so glad that I got to know you and feel honored to call you my friend.
Love,
Marie
P.S. HI SAMMY!! Saw your post and wanted to say a quick "hello" and hope all is well with you sweetie!! Love ya.
You amaze me more every day. It took alot of courage to post what you did. It shows how much you really do care. You have grown so much, Liz. I am so glad that I got to know you and feel honored to call you my friend.
Love,
Marie
P.S. HI SAMMY!! Saw your post and wanted to say a quick "hello" and hope all is well with you sweetie!! Love ya.
Sammy- Please dont leave again ever, ok?
Let me tell you, without kids, we have no future. I was just talking to my 18 year old son. His name is Trevor. I was in a band when I was 18 and now he is. He plays drums. He's really good. I've listened to them now for about a year and he is finally doing gigs. His bands name is Ignite The Sky. They need a new lead singer and it is very Thrash stuff. But they have their own web site and you can listen. Upper right hand corner. Trev is very cool (maybe a little too cool). Forget the singer, he stinks, and I told him so, but listen to the drums. He's awesome. It's a hard listen because of the singer though. Neon, you might like it.
http://www.purevolume.com/ignitetheskyil
http://www.purevolume.com/ignitetheskyil
Liz:
Awesome post.
Rach
Awesome post.
Rach
Liz.... I love you.
Cowgirl
Cowgirl
Liz,
What a remarkable person you are. Thank you for letting me get to know just how wonderful you are. I admire and respect you.
Love,
What a remarkable person you are. Thank you for letting me get to know just how wonderful you are. I admire and respect you.
Love,
Good morning everyone,
I was lurking here yesterday and I read the responses to me and I couldn't believe it. I was actually expecting to hear, Liz what an a** you are, how could you be so mean?
I didn't know how to respond to what I've read here. Still don't.
Just thank you guys for forgiving me. I am sorry and do promise to me more careful in the future. I have to learn to not react in anger as I do.
I'm finally going to work again this morning. Haven't been any work since Oct. So, I hope you all have a great day. I love you guys, Teresa, Cowgirl, Bob, Gina, Rachel, Sharon, Clancy, Marie, LittleH, Jackie, Sammy,Betsy and Charmed have been a huge help for me since I joined this board back in Sept? Don't remember when. But I have got so much support and love from these guys even after the fact that there was times I treated some of them like crap.
I'm just thankful I got to know all of you and look forward to knowing some of the new people as well.
Love,
Liz
I was lurking here yesterday and I read the responses to me and I couldn't believe it. I was actually expecting to hear, Liz what an a** you are, how could you be so mean?
I didn't know how to respond to what I've read here. Still don't.
Just thank you guys for forgiving me. I am sorry and do promise to me more careful in the future. I have to learn to not react in anger as I do.
I'm finally going to work again this morning. Haven't been any work since Oct. So, I hope you all have a great day. I love you guys, Teresa, Cowgirl, Bob, Gina, Rachel, Sharon, Clancy, Marie, LittleH, Jackie, Sammy,Betsy and Charmed have been a huge help for me since I joined this board back in Sept? Don't remember when. But I have got so much support and love from these guys even after the fact that there was times I treated some of them like crap.
I'm just thankful I got to know all of you and look forward to knowing some of the new people as well.
Love,
Liz
Hey Liz,
Just wanted to tell you why you haven't heard anyone say "Liz you were an a$$" because you weren't an a$$ to anyone but me. You say you still don't understand why everyone is being so sweet to you. Well maybe it's because they are your friends and no matter what you say they will always defend and be there for you. Or maybe it's because they didn't get a chance to read what your potty mouth had to say the night before last. The moderators were doing you a BIG favor by taking out the rude nasty things you were saying and just deleted the whole thread altogether.
So that is all I was trying to do with Danny was defend him because you Bob and Gina were blasting him about his personal business and Danny wasn't even online.As far as all the rude comments you were making to me oh well. What you said didn't effect my life at all. I understand you may have felt guilty for what you said but no need to apologize. You are what you are and you said what you said. I will not sit here and waste my time with you. You obviously don't think much of me as a person by the way you were talking to me the other night so I won't waste anymore of anyone's time. I won't sit here and kiss your a$$ and tell you oh Liz I think your wonderful and that was a great post bl bla bla.it's just not my style. So for those of you who may have something rude to say to me just save it because you have no idea why I am saying this to Liz but she does. Rae
Just wanted to tell you why you haven't heard anyone say "Liz you were an a$$" because you weren't an a$$ to anyone but me. You say you still don't understand why everyone is being so sweet to you. Well maybe it's because they are your friends and no matter what you say they will always defend and be there for you. Or maybe it's because they didn't get a chance to read what your potty mouth had to say the night before last. The moderators were doing you a BIG favor by taking out the rude nasty things you were saying and just deleted the whole thread altogether.
So that is all I was trying to do with Danny was defend him because you Bob and Gina were blasting him about his personal business and Danny wasn't even online.As far as all the rude comments you were making to me oh well. What you said didn't effect my life at all. I understand you may have felt guilty for what you said but no need to apologize. You are what you are and you said what you said. I will not sit here and waste my time with you. You obviously don't think much of me as a person by the way you were talking to me the other night so I won't waste anymore of anyone's time. I won't sit here and kiss your a$$ and tell you oh Liz I think your wonderful and that was a great post bl bla bla.it's just not my style. So for those of you who may have something rude to say to me just save it because you have no idea why I am saying this to Liz but she does. Rae
Good morning to you all rae liz how are all of you doing?????mj
