EXPEL me if you want--The new year is here and people are dying.
But you all should know that without you being told by this JUNKIE
I am reading statements pertaining to suboxene that to my knoweledge are FALSE.
Why cant you start a forum on SUBOXENE???
I have written to you morethan once. Reinstate me or kick me off entirely.
Its assanine already.
Maybe I am a bit short tempered but you got people looking for help.
HELP THEM for christ sake
GEEZ
You all focus on th locked threads? Why locke them? let us learn from our mistakes.
You really think anyone on this board means harm to a fellow member.
You the Mods are half the problem IMO- We are the addicts let us deal with the forums.
I see nothing but PROCRASTINATION from you all-
JMHO MODERATORS get with the program--let us learn --help fall and in between let the bull $pit go as maybe someone needs to vent better on a board than someone's FACE.
SUBOXMAN
Jeff you said: I am reading statements pertaining to suboxene that to my knoweledge are FALSE.
Jeff this is just a thought but why don't you point out the false information so the mod's know what your talking about? Also others may see it and listen to what you are saying.......... Rae
Jeff this is just a thought but why don't you point out the false information so the mod's know what your talking about? Also others may see it and listen to what you are saying.......... Rae
Rae I have forwarded and written what I have been told is a proper --legal Suboxene treatment.
Jeff
Jeff
What? Now you have me confused if you don't think something posted on this board is correct then please correct it. That is all I am saying is point out what your talking about.. . Rae
Rae Do you feel its correct to be on suboxene without the FULL care of an addiction specialist?
Jeff
Jeff
dEAR jEFF NOW KNOWING WHERE i STAND WITH DRAMA i JUST NEED TO SAY i WAS SORT OF CONFUSED BY YOUR POST.YOU SAID THERE WAS WRONG INFORMATION ON HERE BUT i DIDNT SEE YOU SEE WHERE OR WHAT IT WAS SO i WAS CONFUSED TOO.....MJ
OOPS Sorry didnt realize my Caps were on....
OOPS Sorry didnt realize my Caps were on....
Rae Do you feel its correct to be on suboxene without the FULL care of an addiction specialist?
Well Jeff that depends on the person. My ex husband was on sub for 7-8 weeks and didn't go. I believe most sub doctor's give you that option to get outside help don't they? Do I think it would benefit some yeah sure I guess.. If that is what the person wants to do and is able to do... Why do you ask? Also where is the false information you were refering too??? Rae
Well Jeff that depends on the person. My ex husband was on sub for 7-8 weeks and didn't go. I believe most sub doctor's give you that option to get outside help don't they? Do I think it would benefit some yeah sure I guess.. If that is what the person wants to do and is able to do... Why do you ask? Also where is the false information you were refering too??? Rae
M.J
Regarding Suboxene
There is a protocol to get on this medication. If you have read all the posts you read people getting the drug ??? street friends?/ I do not know--
Here is how suboxene worked for this addict. And as of my last appointment Legally in Florida these rulles stood.
30 patients tops--assortment of rules.
It is a drug used for W/D not Pain Management.
Samsha--GOOGLE this M.J call them write them whatever.
This I do know. I have read where people are asking what to do as they have no more suboxene?
How do you run out? Not if your seeing a legit doctor, They count your pills call you in for spot testing etc.
Suboxene is a tool used by addiction specialist who tend to push AA/NA and therapy and of course spirituality.
Without a good doctor your % of improving your quality of life diminishes.
JMO--Jeff
Regarding Suboxene
There is a protocol to get on this medication. If you have read all the posts you read people getting the drug ??? street friends?/ I do not know--
Here is how suboxene worked for this addict. And as of my last appointment Legally in Florida these rulles stood.
30 patients tops--assortment of rules.
It is a drug used for W/D not Pain Management.
Samsha--GOOGLE this M.J call them write them whatever.
This I do know. I have read where people are asking what to do as they have no more suboxene?
How do you run out? Not if your seeing a legit doctor, They count your pills call you in for spot testing etc.
Suboxene is a tool used by addiction specialist who tend to push AA/NA and therapy and of course spirituality.
Without a good doctor your % of improving your quality of life diminishes.
JMO--Jeff
RAE????????????
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Rae Do you feel its correct to be on suboxene without the FULL care of an addiction specialist?
Well Jeff that depends on the person. My ex husband was on sub for 7-8 weeks and didn't go. I believe most sub doctor's give you that option to get outside help don't they? Do I think it would benefit some yeah sure I guess.. If that is what the person wants to do and is able to do... Why do you ask? Also where is the false information you were refering too???
LOST you Rae-
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Rae Do you feel its correct to be on suboxene without the FULL care of an addiction specialist?
Well Jeff that depends on the person. My ex husband was on sub for 7-8 weeks and didn't go. I believe most sub doctor's give you that option to get outside help don't they? Do I think it would benefit some yeah sure I guess.. If that is what the person wants to do and is able to do... Why do you ask? Also where is the false information you were refering too???
LOST you Rae-
Jeff thank you for clearing that up.I really didnt understand what you were saying.This information is something youve been picking up & reading through the whole board.Now I can understand what you are trying to say.
Alot of it I already knew,BUT as far as it being used as a form of pain managment that is being done for me by my prescibing Dr,.
Yes he is able to write for Sub,has taken the course ETC
As I belive you said your in Fl I am in NY I have no idea if that makes any difference.I never run out early(I dont know why one would).
anyways thanks for writing it out as I was sort of sitting here going HUH????
Alot of it I already knew,BUT as far as it being used as a form of pain managment that is being done for me by my prescibing Dr,.
Yes he is able to write for Sub,has taken the course ETC
As I belive you said your in Fl I am in NY I have no idea if that makes any difference.I never run out early(I dont know why one would).
anyways thanks for writing it out as I was sort of sitting here going HUH????
Yep like always Jeff I lost you too-LOL It's all good. I see what your saying about everyone needing a good sub( addiction specialist) and how people shouldn't run out early. Well it happens and not everyone gets sub through a private doctor but from their regular doctor that took the 8 hour online course. People abuse the medication, I am sure of it and run out early. I still don't understand why you started this post to the mod's saying people were giving out false information about subxone though... Maybe you can help me out with that one. If not have a good night! Rae
Yep like always Jeff I lost you too-LOL It's all good. I see what your saying about everyone needing a good sub( addiction specialist) and how people shouldn't run out early. Well it happens. I still don't understand why you started this post to the mod's saying people were giving out false information about subxone though... Maybe you can help me out with that one. If not have a good night! Rae
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Jesus flippin christmas
You have to be joshin--Dang RAE TAKE AS DIRECTED---
If you cant do that then you are ABUSING YOUR MEDS--The Mods read these posts I assume and if they do then they should see the problem.
I am responsible for MY RECOVERY but I will never stop trying to help my fellow addict no matter what.
Run out ???? Well Rae this is just ME now were talking about.
I have a script in my wallet--I hvae 4 unopen bottles of 2mg pills sitting in my room and 2-3 at my parents house.
My doctor travels overseas and if need be an emergency room can reach her via a private #
My addiction wil kill me.
Now you go back and read all the posts on suboxene please and see that there are canadiens --U.K I cant help them. They ask questions someone help them.
Its all changing the laws here to. State by state--I would imagine
Guess its on the street--being sold--Do you not remember reading that on the forums?
Then peopel say suboxene does not work. Well how did they get the drug and who is taking care of there aftercare? No therapy no recovery IMO
Jeff
SORRY FOR TYPOS
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Jesus flippin christmas
You have to be joshin--Dang RAE TAKE AS DIRECTED---
If you cant do that then you are ABUSING YOUR MEDS--The Mods read these posts I assume and if they do then they should see the problem.
I am responsible for MY RECOVERY but I will never stop trying to help my fellow addict no matter what.
Run out ???? Well Rae this is just ME now were talking about.
I have a script in my wallet--I hvae 4 unopen bottles of 2mg pills sitting in my room and 2-3 at my parents house.
My doctor travels overseas and if need be an emergency room can reach her via a private #
My addiction wil kill me.
Now you go back and read all the posts on suboxene please and see that there are canadiens --U.K I cant help them. They ask questions someone help them.
Its all changing the laws here to. State by state--I would imagine
Guess its on the street--being sold--Do you not remember reading that on the forums?
Then peopel say suboxene does not work. Well how did they get the drug and who is taking care of there aftercare? No therapy no recovery IMO
Jeff
SORRY FOR TYPOS
Buprenorphine IS used for pain. If you are going to be the "Sub Expert" then please ensure that what you are saying is correct.
Buprenorphine was first used for pain control, it is still prescribed under the name Temegesic for pain. For opiate addicts with chronic pain, Buprenorphine is often used as a pain management therapy.
Buprenorphine was first used for pain control, it is still prescribed under the name Temegesic for pain. For opiate addicts with chronic pain, Buprenorphine is often used as a pain management therapy.
Jeff you said:
You have to be joshin--Dang RAE TAKE AS DIRECTED--
What do you want me to take as directed Jeff? I am not on sub? I was just agreeing with you dude. Your the one that said"This I do know. I have read where people are asking what to do as they have no more suboxene?
How do you run out? Not if your seeing a legit doctor, They count your pills call you in for spot testing etc.
So I was just saying yes people run out early. So don't scream at me to take as directed and act like I am the crazy one here. I know that people on sub that run out early are abusing there meds. Oh well you can't save the world.. You started this thread telling the mod's that people were giving out false information about sub. I have asked you 4 times to point out the false info and you can't even do that. You don't even why you started this thread do you? How are the mod's suppose to help you if they have no clue about what your talking about? You drain me. I am off to enjoy my night. Have fun being you. There is no way in hell I can have a conversation with you so why I try is beyond me. Rae
You have to be joshin--Dang RAE TAKE AS DIRECTED--
What do you want me to take as directed Jeff? I am not on sub? I was just agreeing with you dude. Your the one that said"This I do know. I have read where people are asking what to do as they have no more suboxene?
How do you run out? Not if your seeing a legit doctor, They count your pills call you in for spot testing etc.
So I was just saying yes people run out early. So don't scream at me to take as directed and act like I am the crazy one here. I know that people on sub that run out early are abusing there meds. Oh well you can't save the world.. You started this thread telling the mod's that people were giving out false information about sub. I have asked you 4 times to point out the false info and you can't even do that. You don't even why you started this thread do you? How are the mod's suppose to help you if they have no clue about what your talking about? You drain me. I am off to enjoy my night. Have fun being you. There is no way in hell I can have a conversation with you so why I try is beyond me. Rae
"Buprenorphine IS used for pain. If you are going to be the "Sub Expert" then please ensure that what you are saying is correct."
I am no expert except when it comes to MY RECOVERY.
FYI A LEGIT sub doctior is not allowed Legally to prescribe for pain control. They have 30 patients Max--in there practice.
If you bother to STOP attacking my statement and READ all the people who CANNOT get the sub and forced to go to the street??
If any doctor can prescribe please list the 50 states and any other info to help the sub users complaining of paying Thousands of $$$
I payed 50$ a month for pills and 20 copay for doc--840$$$$ total yearly cost
That is a legit cost OOMPH
I surrender--
Jeff
Sub expert? The governemnet turned me down when they found out I wasa Cop.
I am no expert except when it comes to MY RECOVERY.
FYI A LEGIT sub doctior is not allowed Legally to prescribe for pain control. They have 30 patients Max--in there practice.
If you bother to STOP attacking my statement and READ all the people who CANNOT get the sub and forced to go to the street??
If any doctor can prescribe please list the 50 states and any other info to help the sub users complaining of paying Thousands of $$$
I payed 50$ a month for pills and 20 copay for doc--840$$$$ total yearly cost
That is a legit cost OOMPH
I surrender--
Jeff
Sub expert? The governemnet turned me down when they found out I wasa Cop.
Omph,
Don't feel bad Jeff happens to the best of us. We still love you Jeff. Get Well soon. Rae
Don't feel bad Jeff happens to the best of us. We still love you Jeff. Get Well soon. Rae
YOU made the erroneous statement that Buprenorphine was not used for pain, not me. I corrected you.
It is not my fault that you were wrong. You consistently hold yourself up to be an expert on a drug that you know very little about and then lambast others for posting false information. Saying that Buprenorphine is not used for pain IS a false statement.
Buprenorphine is used for pain. It is also prescribed by registered Sub prescribers for opiate addicts with chronic pain.
Furthermore, this site is international and many of the laws you point to are meaningless outside your own state.
It is not my fault that you were wrong. You consistently hold yourself up to be an expert on a drug that you know very little about and then lambast others for posting false information. Saying that Buprenorphine is not used for pain IS a false statement.
Buprenorphine is used for pain. It is also prescribed by registered Sub prescribers for opiate addicts with chronic pain.
Furthermore, this site is international and many of the laws you point to are meaningless outside your own state.
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Jeff you said:
You have to be joshin--Dang RAE TAKE AS DIRECTED--
What do you want me to take as directed Jeff? I am not on sub? I was just agreeing with you dude. Your the one that said"This I do know. I have read where people are asking what to do as they have no more suboxene?
How do you run out? Not if your seeing a legit doctor, They count your pills call you in for spot testing etc.
So I was just saying yes people run out early. So don't scream at me to take as directed and act like I am the crazy one here. I know that people on sub that run out early are abusing there meds. Oh well you can't save the world.. You started this thread telling the mod's that people were giving out false information about sub. I have asked you 4 times to point out the false info and you can't even do that. You don't even why you started this thread do you? How are the mod's suppose to help you if they have no clue about what your talking about? You drain me. I am off to enjoy my night. Have fun being you. There is no way in hell I can have a conversation with you so why I try is beyond me. Rae
RAE???????????????
I wrote to the mods can you please think about starting a forum pertaining to SUBOXENE.
You as usual have come and tried to destroy this thread--
Keep it up. Anyone with a logical mind will see the truth.
Jeff
Have fun being you? That is how a immature child ends a fight
Tryingto help my fellow addict --YOU BET I WILL KEEP BEING ME--
Jeff
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Jeff you said:
You have to be joshin--Dang RAE TAKE AS DIRECTED--
What do you want me to take as directed Jeff? I am not on sub? I was just agreeing with you dude. Your the one that said"This I do know. I have read where people are asking what to do as they have no more suboxene?
How do you run out? Not if your seeing a legit doctor, They count your pills call you in for spot testing etc.
So I was just saying yes people run out early. So don't scream at me to take as directed and act like I am the crazy one here. I know that people on sub that run out early are abusing there meds. Oh well you can't save the world.. You started this thread telling the mod's that people were giving out false information about sub. I have asked you 4 times to point out the false info and you can't even do that. You don't even why you started this thread do you? How are the mod's suppose to help you if they have no clue about what your talking about? You drain me. I am off to enjoy my night. Have fun being you. There is no way in hell I can have a conversation with you so why I try is beyond me. Rae
RAE???????????????
I wrote to the mods can you please think about starting a forum pertaining to SUBOXENE.
You as usual have come and tried to destroy this thread--
Keep it up. Anyone with a logical mind will see the truth.
Jeff
Have fun being you? That is how a immature child ends a fight
Tryingto help my fellow addict --YOU BET I WILL KEEP BEING ME--
Jeff
Jeff you think I came to destroy this thread? LMAO don't flatter yourself buddy I am bored tonight and wanted to come talk to you. Read the 1st couple posts on this thread? I was being very nice to you just asking a simple question..
I just wanted to know what made you start this post? Where the false information was you were referring to. I don't think the mod's can help you until you can come up with that answer. They won't know what your talking about.. Did someone say go on sub when taking 70 mgs of methadone? Did someone say" sub was never abused? Did someone say " that sub is not used for pain management? Yes you said that didn't you-LOL What was it that was said that made you angry enough to write to the mods again??? it is a simple question and enquiring minds want to know. Rae
Ps. Your right anyone with a logical mind will see the truth or the bulls*t whatever it may be... Too each his own Jeff this is a message board and people are going to ask questions, so get over it.. Rae
Your trying to help your fellow addict by this thread? Alright then. I will leave you to educate everyone... :-0)
I just wanted to know what made you start this post? Where the false information was you were referring to. I don't think the mod's can help you until you can come up with that answer. They won't know what your talking about.. Did someone say go on sub when taking 70 mgs of methadone? Did someone say" sub was never abused? Did someone say " that sub is not used for pain management? Yes you said that didn't you-LOL What was it that was said that made you angry enough to write to the mods again??? it is a simple question and enquiring minds want to know. Rae
Ps. Your right anyone with a logical mind will see the truth or the bulls*t whatever it may be... Too each his own Jeff this is a message board and people are going to ask questions, so get over it.. Rae
Your trying to help your fellow addict by this thread? Alright then. I will leave you to educate everyone... :-0)
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Jeff you think I came to destroy this thread? LMAO don't flatter yourself buddy I am bored tonight and wanted to come talk to you. Read the 1st couple posts on this thread? I was being very nice to you just asking a simple question..
I just wanted to know what made you start this post? Where the false information was you were referring to. I don't think the mod's can help you until you can come up with that answer. They won't know what your talking about.. Did someone say go on sub when taking 70 mgs of methadone? Did someone say" sub was never abused? Did someone say " that sub is not used for pain management? Yes you said that didn't you-LOL What was it that was said that made you angry enough to write to the mods again??? it is a simple question and enquiring minds want to know. Rae
Ps. Your right anyone with a logical mind will see the truth or the bulls*t whatever it may be... Too each his own Jeff this is a message board and people are going to ask questions, so get over it.. Rae
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RAE in this workld sweetie to get what you want either your born with it or you FIGHT for it.
I am persistent and I care about people. I will post to the mods until they answer or ban me. either way I accomplish my goal ofthem at least think about adding a forum on SUBOXENE.
What else would you like to know.
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Since you are not on suboxene in fact not sure what your on or not on but leave me alone PLEASE--
Jeff
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Jeff you think I came to destroy this thread? LMAO don't flatter yourself buddy I am bored tonight and wanted to come talk to you. Read the 1st couple posts on this thread? I was being very nice to you just asking a simple question..
I just wanted to know what made you start this post? Where the false information was you were referring to. I don't think the mod's can help you until you can come up with that answer. They won't know what your talking about.. Did someone say go on sub when taking 70 mgs of methadone? Did someone say" sub was never abused? Did someone say " that sub is not used for pain management? Yes you said that didn't you-LOL What was it that was said that made you angry enough to write to the mods again??? it is a simple question and enquiring minds want to know. Rae
Ps. Your right anyone with a logical mind will see the truth or the bulls*t whatever it may be... Too each his own Jeff this is a message board and people are going to ask questions, so get over it.. Rae
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RAE in this workld sweetie to get what you want either your born with it or you FIGHT for it.
I am persistent and I care about people. I will post to the mods until they answer or ban me. either way I accomplish my goal ofthem at least think about adding a forum on SUBOXENE.
What else would you like to know.
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Since you are not on suboxene in fact not sure what your on or not on but leave me alone PLEASE--
Jeff
