Some of you may recall i have a sister(i actually have 6,im the oldest)who is heavily into pills and has been for about 7 years now.Shes 28 years old and i love her to death.Shes the greatest person in the world.She has a very bad addiction to norcos and when she has them she will take upward of 30 a day(6 or 7 at a time)I would say shes been at that amount for at least a year now.Anyway,my serious question! She just found out uesterday shes preganant for the very first time(she actulaly thought she couldnt get pregnant)her and her BF have lived together about 6 years and she hasnt used any Birth control in the past 3years and never got pregnant.We're are all so excited for her,she will be a super fantastic mom,im jusr scared to death now.She now has to quit the pills,but has been doing them right up until yeserday,at the amount i stated.Shes been here at my house today and already starting to feel the WD's,im so afraid shes not going to be able to do this,though she knows she has to.She does not want anyone to knoe,dr's or anything until she is clean,then maybe she will look for some help.Shes just short of 2 weeks late,so she may be 1 month along.Is there a chance the pilss shes taken up until today could have caused damage to her baby already?What if she cant quit and continues to use(though she says shes done)i mean,how can she just quit CT after so heavy of a usage.Im just so scared for her,i dont know what to do,what to say,i was hoping for ANY kind of advice from you guys.Anbody have any experience in this situation? TIA~KIM
Kim,
My suggestion would be for her to tell her dr. They will know what is best for her. To keep her and the baby safe. I will say a prayer for her.
take care
gi
My suggestion would be for her to tell her dr. They will know what is best for her. To keep her and the baby safe. I will say a prayer for her.
take care
gi
Best advice - she MUST tell her ob/gyn!!
Yes, you are right to be very concerned.....
Please try to convince her to talk to her Dr!!
Yes, you are right to be very concerned.....
Please try to convince her to talk to her Dr!!
KIM
She needs to talk to her OB/GYN before attempting any detoxing if she's pregnant. Too dangerous to do on her own.
She needs to talk to her OB/GYN before attempting any detoxing if she's pregnant. Too dangerous to do on her own.
Wow Kim, that is a very serious question and I will pray for your sister and her baby... Girl, she should talk to her OB/GYN about this one. I'm sure that they can do and ultrasound and see if things are coming along okay... Now, as far as how your sister is going to make it and stay clean. Well, only she can make that decision. Really, see if she can get in to see a specialist on this one. She is going to need all of the help that she can get.. I have read where other women haven taken narcotics pain relievers during their entire pregnancy and their babies didn't have any abnormalities...I'm sure that the newborns go through withdrawal though and I just can't imagine how that would feel to a baby. Wow, I'm just shocked right now and I apologize for not knowing what to say....I hope someone will come along with more experience in this area soon and help you out...Please tell your sister that I will pray for her and the baby..and you too..Take Care.
Thanks Gina,i totally agree.Today i begged her,to please go to the dr,tell him everything.She wont,at least not right now.She wants to be clean first then MAYBE tell the dr.Shes so worried that the dr will look negatively on her(which he may? )i tried to tell her that this babies safety and her health are most important right now,well...she left here crying and i dont know what else to do to help her,except be here when she needs to talk.Im just so scared for her,i pray to god she can do this on her own,i know how hard its been for me and i was using far less for much shorter time,i just think its going to be even harder for her.But then again,she does have a huge motivaiton right now.I told her i think this is a miracle and gods way of pulling her from this death trap she has been living,and she thinks so too.I will just have to do the best i can for her,and hope she finds her way.My main concern right now is...can this baby already be affected by the pills shes been taking these past couple weeks?~KIM
Thanks everyone,i am not going to stop stressing how important it is right now for her to tell her dr,i couldnt agree more.I will tell her i will go with her,hold hre hand,do the talking if she wants,whatever it takes,thanks so much for your advice and well wishes~KIM
Thanks everyone,i am not going to stop stressing how important it is right now for her to tell her dr,i couldnt agree more.I will tell her i will go with her,hold hre hand,do the talking if she wants,whatever it takes,thanks so much for your advice and well wishes~KIM
kim,
I think you already know the answer to your questions .. at least the most important..... for the sake of her unborn baby... she needs to share this with her doctor.... this is no longer about her .. protecting her ... I understand as do most of us here about the shame and guilt of public riticule or having things in a medical record.. but .. this is very much a life of death situation for the baby...
Your fears may be unfounded but...remember that she may promise the moon right now cause of the fear but most moms to be dont use during pregancy because they want to kill or hurt their babies... or they are bad people.... dont ever loose sight of the fact that along with you ... she has a real DISEASE... and she will need closer monitoring and treatment than ever to ensure her staying clean for her sake as well as her baby..... she may not want to use but.. it is not always that easy.... this risk here is too high to take because if you are wrong ..... and she doesnt take her recovery seriously because it is without professional intervention... well she might have another relapse in her but her baby might not....
please dont be upset with me for painting this picture but.. I can only imagine the tug of war you feel ... I dont have any sisters but... I can picture the scene in my mind... no body wants to be forced into treatment esp like this but.. a mothers bond and love for a child .. well.... she needs to tell her doctor and get serious professional intensive treatment....
I will say a special prayer for you both...
Teresa
I think you already know the answer to your questions .. at least the most important..... for the sake of her unborn baby... she needs to share this with her doctor.... this is no longer about her .. protecting her ... I understand as do most of us here about the shame and guilt of public riticule or having things in a medical record.. but .. this is very much a life of death situation for the baby...
Your fears may be unfounded but...remember that she may promise the moon right now cause of the fear but most moms to be dont use during pregancy because they want to kill or hurt their babies... or they are bad people.... dont ever loose sight of the fact that along with you ... she has a real DISEASE... and she will need closer monitoring and treatment than ever to ensure her staying clean for her sake as well as her baby..... she may not want to use but.. it is not always that easy.... this risk here is too high to take because if you are wrong ..... and she doesnt take her recovery seriously because it is without professional intervention... well she might have another relapse in her but her baby might not....
please dont be upset with me for painting this picture but.. I can only imagine the tug of war you feel ... I dont have any sisters but... I can picture the scene in my mind... no body wants to be forced into treatment esp like this but.. a mothers bond and love for a child .. well.... she needs to tell her doctor and get serious professional intensive treatment....
I will say a special prayer for you both...
Teresa
Teresa, I totally agree with everything that you just posted...
Kim, your sisters doctor may not look down on her for being an addict and so what if he does. This is about her and her baby right now.....she has got to do everything that she can do to save the two of them, regardless of how her doctor may or may not feel. Really, withdrawals can be very dangerous for the unborn fetus and your sister needs some serious proffesional help, NOW. She does not need to wait another minute, tomorrow may be too late... Please help her to help herself and her unborn child...
Kim, your sisters doctor may not look down on her for being an addict and so what if he does. This is about her and her baby right now.....she has got to do everything that she can do to save the two of them, regardless of how her doctor may or may not feel. Really, withdrawals can be very dangerous for the unborn fetus and your sister needs some serious proffesional help, NOW. She does not need to wait another minute, tomorrow may be too late... Please help her to help herself and her unborn child...
Kim...
I agree with all the advise already given...she needs to see a doctor but if she absolutely refuses, is it possible for you to talk to your doctor or OB and ask these questions on an anonymous basis...maybe then you could have some better information to pass on to her about the effects the pills and what they are doing to the baby right now...(this is just my opinion)...hang in there Kim and keep talking to her about getting to a doctor...
My prayers are with you, your sister and the baby...
Take care...
I agree with all the advise already given...she needs to see a doctor but if she absolutely refuses, is it possible for you to talk to your doctor or OB and ask these questions on an anonymous basis...maybe then you could have some better information to pass on to her about the effects the pills and what they are doing to the baby right now...(this is just my opinion)...hang in there Kim and keep talking to her about getting to a doctor...
My prayers are with you, your sister and the baby...
Take care...
Hi Kim! Good to see you around. I have missed you. Well, that is definitely a very serious question. I honestly don't know if it has affected the baby... she has to see a dr and be very, very honest with him. I know that it is scary. But, if she doesnt and something happens... i just don't know what the consequences might be. Doctors are supposed to remain neutral and treat the patient regardless of what he/she thinks. The main thing right now is to get that baby checked out and get your sis some help. That is alot to come off of esp when she is pregnant. Bless your hearts... this has to be so tough. I will keep all of you in my prayers and thoughts. Love you, Bri :)
Again,thank you all so much.Tereasa,i certainly know where youre coming from.She has been using for so long and to be honest,she has never gone more than a day or two without SOMETHING.If she cant get her DOC she will get her hands on something,benzos,even muscle relaxants,i mean,shes been real bad off for a long time.I dont think she really realizes it,but those of us close to her can see it.Plus the fact that i have gotten clean and have acutllay gone through the Wd's,i know what shes up against and i have my doubts,i just dont know if she can do it.She has,like you said,every good intention in the world.And ive tried to explain that to her,her will power and good intentions(and yes,even this unborn baby coming)may not be enough to help her do this.24Gordon,to answer your question,thats what my sister said to me today,that she was going to cll some ob/gyn drs and try to get them to give her some info over the phone,i told her i didnt think that were possible,i cant imagine them administering that kind of advice to a strange women on the phone(who isnt their patient)but she said she was going to try it??? Maybe i could talk to mine and find out,though i only see him once a year or so.
Reading all these responses only strenghtings my determiantion to get her to a dr,she hasnt been yet,she hsa done 4 pregnancy tests in the past 2 days,becasue she just cant bleieve its true,but she will need to go to the dr very soon now anyway,im going to push her along.Thanks so much,youve all helped more than you'll ever know!~KIM
Reading all these responses only strenghtings my determiantion to get her to a dr,she hasnt been yet,she hsa done 4 pregnancy tests in the past 2 days,becasue she just cant bleieve its true,but she will need to go to the dr very soon now anyway,im going to push her along.Thanks so much,youve all helped more than you'll ever know!~KIM
Kim...
I hope your sister does call...maybe then, when a professional tells her how critical it is to be seen by a doctor immediately, she'll do it...sometimes with sisters they don't take us as serious so I'm praying she makes the call...And as far as calling your doctor, I'd still do it so you know all risks she has right now. Could your other sister (the one you go to meetings with) help you talk to her..maybe the two of you together sit down with her?
Hang in there, Kim...
The blessing here is your sober to help her and her unborn baby
Take care
I hope your sister does call...maybe then, when a professional tells her how critical it is to be seen by a doctor immediately, she'll do it...sometimes with sisters they don't take us as serious so I'm praying she makes the call...And as far as calling your doctor, I'd still do it so you know all risks she has right now. Could your other sister (the one you go to meetings with) help you talk to her..maybe the two of you together sit down with her?
Hang in there, Kim...
The blessing here is your sober to help her and her unborn baby
Take care
Thank you so much 24GORDON! Mark Martin fan here,lol...thank you for your kind words.I though the same exact thing myself,maybe all these things(me being clean,her pregnancy)all have happend for a reason.Maybe its gods way of helping all of us to finally see the light. I surely hope so.Yes,ive been on the phone with my other sister,shes as worried as i am,in fact they are much closer to each other(in both age and firendship)im the oldest,this sister is the youngest(the one pregnant)and the sister i go to the meetings with is second to the youngest,so they are really close to each other.We will definitely get together as a family and do ALL that we can.I will keep you all updated,i want so much for everythign to work out perfectly for her,its going to be a long tough road.~KIM
Kim...
Your sister is so very fortunate to have you...and the best part is you do know what she's about to go through and will be able to help. Good luck and please keep us updated...
Take care...
ps
I love Mark Martin too...one class act..the selfish part of me is glad he's coming back for one more year...(I'm going through withdrawls every Sunday...can't wait for February and the Daytona 500)
Your sister is so very fortunate to have you...and the best part is you do know what she's about to go through and will be able to help. Good luck and please keep us updated...
Take care...
ps
I love Mark Martin too...one class act..the selfish part of me is glad he's coming back for one more year...(I'm going through withdrawls every Sunday...can't wait for February and the Daytona 500)
To be honest,its my husband who is a die hard Mark Martin fan,i do watch from time to time ,and i like him,but im not into it that much.I am glad hes coming back too,my husband worships him,he has all the Mark Martin apparel,his Ford explorer is all Mark Martin stuff,he has to have his hat on,the flag hanging out front all that superstitious stuff on race day.He's lost without it.But hes(and me) just as much a fan of the Rangers /Giants /Yankees so we go right from one sport to the next.What a dull, boring life we lead,lol~KIM
Kim
I have some info for you, SOME experience.
I always wanted babies so badly. Wanted 7 of them..lolol
Ever since i was little, wanted to be a MOMMY to 7.
( grew up watching 8 is enough and Little house on the Prairies..lol)
Anyway, when i was ready to get pregnant, I was on narcotics for pain.
Saw many specialists...every single oneof them (3)
said that I need them for the pain ( wasnt abusing at the time)
and that the baby would be born addicted.
and have to go through withdrawal.
I was horrified.Shocked that they thought that no big deal.
Well i never became pregant.
never had 7 babies.
never had 1.
the thought of bringing a baby into the world addicted.
was too much for me personally.
Now at times i wonder if they were right.
The stress from the pain would have caused harm to a baby and I was told
it was unrealistic to think Id carry to full term if i stopped the narcotic..
Get help, get a drs advise....and tell her to be honest about her DOC
This is complicated, and literally a life altering desision.
i wish you and your sister all the best.
Hugs,
Ali
I have some info for you, SOME experience.
I always wanted babies so badly. Wanted 7 of them..lolol
Ever since i was little, wanted to be a MOMMY to 7.
( grew up watching 8 is enough and Little house on the Prairies..lol)
Anyway, when i was ready to get pregnant, I was on narcotics for pain.
Saw many specialists...every single oneof them (3)
said that I need them for the pain ( wasnt abusing at the time)
and that the baby would be born addicted.
and have to go through withdrawal.
I was horrified.Shocked that they thought that no big deal.
Well i never became pregant.
never had 7 babies.
never had 1.
the thought of bringing a baby into the world addicted.
was too much for me personally.
Now at times i wonder if they were right.
The stress from the pain would have caused harm to a baby and I was told
it was unrealistic to think Id carry to full term if i stopped the narcotic..
Get help, get a drs advise....and tell her to be honest about her DOC
This is complicated, and literally a life altering desision.
i wish you and your sister all the best.
Hugs,
Ali
