wat is sacred time guys. you all talk about it but i dont know wat it means. can u explain for me.
Sacred time is explained in the post "whatever works is good".
oh ok. that wouldnt work for me i would convince myself its ok to have just one. is there any thing to help with the withdrawals??? would a body detox thingy do anything???
I cried most of the time. :-) That got rid of toxins through my tear ducts. LOL I found lemon tea with honey soothing...soaks in the tub.....just lots of self-care. Then grab a newspaper and go job hunting !!!!!! Not all in the same day....take your time....go easy on yourself.
cinderellie
what wonderwoman said!
I also did a lot of tea and started taking B12 to help with energy, I felt so tired, and lost a lot of sleep due to not being able to rest afterwards. I drank lots of water. I noticed the dopamine receptors were grabbing on to anything as well, so i did gain some weight too, i craved powdered donuts, but all that is gone now.
I also took a multi vitamin which i wasnt used to, and naproxen for leg cramps. good luck i promise it gets better.
what wonderwoman said!
I also did a lot of tea and started taking B12 to help with energy, I felt so tired, and lost a lot of sleep due to not being able to rest afterwards. I drank lots of water. I noticed the dopamine receptors were grabbing on to anything as well, so i did gain some weight too, i craved powdered donuts, but all that is gone now.
I also took a multi vitamin which i wasnt used to, and naproxen for leg cramps. good luck i promise it gets better.
thanks jamv. i feel better already. its so good to be able to talk to someone. i think it is really hard because i was smoking ciggarettes when i gave up last time, this time i gave the ciggs up first. lol lol lol. should have thought bout that. how long have you guys been off it????
i quit cold turkey in april, i had several attempts from feb. til then. I had smoked for what seemed like a million years before that, since i was about 14, off and on. I was up to smoking several times per day, and almost all day long on the weekends when i didnt work.
i also have asthma and have had pneumonia 3 years in a row, the last time being feb. when i decided I was dependent upon marijuana I had just regained enough air to walk through my house without getting winded and I fired up a one hitter. I asked myself on that day, what the hell am I doing? this is crazy. It still took several months to quit.
I had really even stopped getting a buzz off of it, i just did it to feel normal or to do an activity or to cope with whatever was getting ready to happen in my world in that particular moment. i realized i was sucking all this smoke in my lungs with little to no results. I realized it would never be like i wanted it to be, like in the young days with friends, the fun times. And no matter how hard i tried it would not get back to that. after having quit for 2-3 weeks, i bought a bag, one night i smoked about 10 one hits, and basically felt nothing but depression. That was the last time i smoked. After 3 weeks, i could smoke that much and not feel high. I knew i was long gone. So 7 mo. later here i am. It has been a struggle and there are times that i could eat a bag if it were in front of me, and other times i HATE the thought of it and would go down kicking and screaming before i would smoke it again.
this board is what helped me. I could have never gone to a meeting for various reasons that i have shared in the past, on other posts. I could work a few of the steps but not in the way a traditional 12 step program might recommend, I read about smart recovery, and rational recovery, etc. I guess i took bits and pieces from all of it and used this board for the support I needed. I hope it can continue to be a source of support for those first beginning to stop and have concerns in disclosing their secrets. I will be honest i dont know if i could have made it without this board, some friends i made on this board and a good friend of mine that has 15 years in recovery.
good luck to you and keep posting.
i also have asthma and have had pneumonia 3 years in a row, the last time being feb. when i decided I was dependent upon marijuana I had just regained enough air to walk through my house without getting winded and I fired up a one hitter. I asked myself on that day, what the hell am I doing? this is crazy. It still took several months to quit.
I had really even stopped getting a buzz off of it, i just did it to feel normal or to do an activity or to cope with whatever was getting ready to happen in my world in that particular moment. i realized i was sucking all this smoke in my lungs with little to no results. I realized it would never be like i wanted it to be, like in the young days with friends, the fun times. And no matter how hard i tried it would not get back to that. after having quit for 2-3 weeks, i bought a bag, one night i smoked about 10 one hits, and basically felt nothing but depression. That was the last time i smoked. After 3 weeks, i could smoke that much and not feel high. I knew i was long gone. So 7 mo. later here i am. It has been a struggle and there are times that i could eat a bag if it were in front of me, and other times i HATE the thought of it and would go down kicking and screaming before i would smoke it again.
this board is what helped me. I could have never gone to a meeting for various reasons that i have shared in the past, on other posts. I could work a few of the steps but not in the way a traditional 12 step program might recommend, I read about smart recovery, and rational recovery, etc. I guess i took bits and pieces from all of it and used this board for the support I needed. I hope it can continue to be a source of support for those first beginning to stop and have concerns in disclosing their secrets. I will be honest i dont know if i could have made it without this board, some friends i made on this board and a good friend of mine that has 15 years in recovery.
good luck to you and keep posting.
jamv- ha"cinderellie" wonder where you got that? "cinderellie cinderellie"...said in squeaky voices.....lol
but seriously you should post even if you are in a bad mood. your input is much needed and respected AND inspiring!
cinderella - i'm not into counting time... makes me nervous but i'm into my second week.... aside from a tiny hit of a slip in the first 5 days that i'm chalking up to a good lesson of getting it out of the home!
i have used 'sacred time' and am going thru the easiest time of quitting ever.
the taper helped so much and gave me a sense of control and made it easier to let go. so far, so good. and onto tomorrow..... hang in there!
:) jo
but seriously you should post even if you are in a bad mood. your input is much needed and respected AND inspiring!
cinderella - i'm not into counting time... makes me nervous but i'm into my second week.... aside from a tiny hit of a slip in the first 5 days that i'm chalking up to a good lesson of getting it out of the home!
i have used 'sacred time' and am going thru the easiest time of quitting ever.
the taper helped so much and gave me a sense of control and made it easier to let go. so far, so good. and onto tomorrow..... hang in there!
:) jo
I quit cigarettes in may 2003, went around bragging about being a non-smoker..(hello? smoking is smoking.)when all along i was smoking weed but I would tell myself it wasn't as bad as cigs....except the ocassional puff turned into weekends then weeknights, then daily and here I am.....addiction sucks !!!
your story is mine jamv. its bulls***.lol
i still cant breathe properly after i gave up. and i was even starting to get bad chest pain. i could actually almost feel my lungs straining under the pressure but i didnt care. i smoked pot to have fun and its not fun any more. in fact it is actually NOT FUN and i never thought id say that.
i still cant breathe properly after i gave up. and i was even starting to get bad chest pain. i could actually almost feel my lungs straining under the pressure but i didnt care. i smoked pot to have fun and its not fun any more. in fact it is actually NOT FUN and i never thought id say that.
addictiion makes you fool yourself
i thought i could smoe again after i gave up
and look addicted agan. wat a fool
i thought i could smoe again after i gave up
and look addicted agan. wat a fool
Go surf up some nasty lung pictures...that'll getcha...
Your not a fool, just un-informed about addiction.:-)
Your not a fool, just un-informed about addiction.:-)
cinderella-
I noticed in a previous post that you said you were giving it up in 13 days and maybe the taper would help, sounds like you kinda did a 'sacred time' thing without strict rules, some of us need to make rules for ourselves, but what is that phrase?
Oh, yea, whatever works is good.
I noticed in a previous post that you said you were giving it up in 13 days and maybe the taper would help, sounds like you kinda did a 'sacred time' thing without strict rules, some of us need to make rules for ourselves, but what is that phrase?
Oh, yea, whatever works is good.
fyi i tapered smoking cigs years ago. it was a blessing i didn't even know i was doing it. my then boyfriend, my now husband HATED cigs. so i didn't smoke when with him.... the more time we spent together the less i smoked. by the time we moved in together i was done. i'm so glad now because i really loved smoking and don't know how i would have quit. and i'm so glad that is behind me.... ah to smell the morning air. amazing!
i had tried c/t once and after 2 years of not smoking i had a crisis and picked it rite up.
i think mark twain said "quitting smoking is easy i've done it 100 times!"
tapering the cigs is what i now realize was sacred time is mostly the reason i felt i could do the sacred time with weed. it helps to change habits, urges, and begins a slow withdrawl.....
good luck cinderella!
jo
i had tried c/t once and after 2 years of not smoking i had a crisis and picked it rite up.
i think mark twain said "quitting smoking is easy i've done it 100 times!"
tapering the cigs is what i now realize was sacred time is mostly the reason i felt i could do the sacred time with weed. it helps to change habits, urges, and begins a slow withdrawl.....
good luck cinderella!
jo
i was going to give up in 13 days but someone said something that upset me and i realized i need to do it now. no more excuses.
i didnt do sacred time. i didnt know wat it was. i planned 2 weeks in advance but gave a 1 week early. just a spontaneous decision. sacred time would not work for me. id convince myself i could have just one. then two. lol
cinderella-
You don't get the concept, you can smoke as much as you want anytime of day except for your "sacred time". It's just a portion of the day you devote to keeping yourself clean in order to create a window of sanity in a world of caos caused by your using. Are you telling me you couldn't pick one hour per day and not smoke?
You don't get the concept, you can smoke as much as you want anytime of day except for your "sacred time". It's just a portion of the day you devote to keeping yourself clean in order to create a window of sanity in a world of caos caused by your using. Are you telling me you couldn't pick one hour per day and not smoke?
come on hippinerd, the girl has QUIT
stop trying to promote your SACRED time on everyone, you are getting as bad as those so called "12 steppers" that you say you despise!
She says it will not work for her, she has already quit and you sound as if you are encouraging her to go back to smoking and pick one hour a day to not smoke.
HELL NO, it would not have worked for me. Remember I AM AN ADDICT and you are not.
Some of us have to STOP throw the crap away and make ourselves accountable.
You are wanting your so called genius theory to work so bad you are jeopardizing the wellbeing of someone trying to get clean.????? To prove one other person can do it????? Well cinderella has already quit!!!
Now she is a grown girl and can take care of herself, but it sounds ludacris to tell someone who has stopped smoking cigarettes for instances, well just start back and but only smoke a few a day, because MY WAY OF DOING THINGS IN THE RIGHT WAY.
talk about arrogance.
stop trying to promote your SACRED time on everyone, you are getting as bad as those so called "12 steppers" that you say you despise!
She says it will not work for her, she has already quit and you sound as if you are encouraging her to go back to smoking and pick one hour a day to not smoke.
HELL NO, it would not have worked for me. Remember I AM AN ADDICT and you are not.
Some of us have to STOP throw the crap away and make ourselves accountable.
You are wanting your so called genius theory to work so bad you are jeopardizing the wellbeing of someone trying to get clean.????? To prove one other person can do it????? Well cinderella has already quit!!!
Now she is a grown girl and can take care of herself, but it sounds ludacris to tell someone who has stopped smoking cigarettes for instances, well just start back and but only smoke a few a day, because MY WAY OF DOING THINGS IN THE RIGHT WAY.
talk about arrogance.
oops i thought this was the pain pill board, where is that peace pipe? and i think they smoked peyote, not sage!!
jamv-
Huh? didn't mean to suggest that she go back to smoking! Would never do that. I was just saying that I figured she didn't get the concept if she thought that one was ok, then two, etc.
Sacred time is TIME. Time when you don't smoke, time when you pledge to yourself you will not use. Go to "whatever works is good" and read the rules again. I have never claimed that this was the be all and end all for everyone. In fact I said at one point that I didn't think it would work for addicts, but jojo claims to be an addict and says it worked for her.
Just trying to make sure we are all on the same page here.....
Huh? didn't mean to suggest that she go back to smoking! Would never do that. I was just saying that I figured she didn't get the concept if she thought that one was ok, then two, etc.
Sacred time is TIME. Time when you don't smoke, time when you pledge to yourself you will not use. Go to "whatever works is good" and read the rules again. I have never claimed that this was the be all and end all for everyone. In fact I said at one point that I didn't think it would work for addicts, but jojo claims to be an addict and says it worked for her.
Just trying to make sure we are all on the same page here.....
