Chris- You are not fooling yourself. You should be VERY proud with what you are doing. I'm tapering myself, so I know your pain. I have a lot of "drama" in other area's of my life right now, so the last thing you need (or me, hehe) is someone else causing anxiety. We all need to get well. That is Job #1....hard for people to understand..thats for sure..
Friend, I did kind of the same thing. I was taling 20-30 hydro 10s a day, tapered down to 6/day, then broke my schedule and decided to flush the rest. I think it was helpful to taper down to a lower daily dose before going c/t. If you find that you can't hold true to the taper (few addicts can), then I'd get rid of the rest and just endure a few days of really bad flu and restless legs. Danny is right, you should be proud of the path you're on. Peace, M.
I agree with Danny you are doing great with the tapering. Just keep it up and take it one day at a time.
Sorry you aren't feeling to well Danny.....
Sorry you aren't feeling to well Danny.....
YOU GO GIRL!! DONT LISTEN TO ANYONE WHO SAYS THAT YOU CANT DO IT, STUPED f***S! excuse my french.. I am sooooo proud of you!! keep up the good work! did you read that poem, "I am your disease?" it is really good.. i am going to type it up and bring it to my meeting tonite, so all can see it.. well if you are there w/b and let me know what's up with you?? ok, see ya later:) jazzy:):):):):):):):)
Christina,
Honey there is light at the end of the tunnel. Promise. You are doing a great job bringing yourself down. Take it slow and you will come off. Now that you are way down it will probably be a little harder but you can do it and in time your own body will kick in. I'm proud of you for hanging in there. I know this board is a pain sometimes. I guess it just goes to show how badly people are hurting. Try to discard that which doesn't help and take that which does. Keep posting and hanging in there. You are doing a good job. I'm glad your fiance is supportive.
Love,
PM
Honey there is light at the end of the tunnel. Promise. You are doing a great job bringing yourself down. Take it slow and you will come off. Now that you are way down it will probably be a little harder but you can do it and in time your own body will kick in. I'm proud of you for hanging in there. I know this board is a pain sometimes. I guess it just goes to show how badly people are hurting. Try to discard that which doesn't help and take that which does. Keep posting and hanging in there. You are doing a good job. I'm glad your fiance is supportive.
Love,
PM
I second everything you said in your post. This measage board is CRAZY for the most part. Not everyone but there is a lot of DRAMA. Hardly anyone responds to those who need help or has questions but if it has to do with DRAMA people are coming out of everywhere to respond to them. There is other healthboards that are WONDEFUL just so you know, there is help out there and great boards that may help you deal with what is going on with you in your life right now. By the way, sorry to hear that you aren't feeling good right now. It is possible for you to taper(wean) yourself down to a low dose and then stop altogether! I have done it myself several times in the past 10 years. I am a 31 year old woman with 3 children and a boyfriend. I have gone through a battle with pills let me tell ya. If you ever need to talk you can count on me to offer any advice that I have. I have been down the road of Methadone for 2 1/2 years and tapered down to a piece of a pill and quit at home alone.(horrible withdrawls) by the way! I was taking percocet when I got pregnant with my 6 year old son and stopped cold turkey the day I found out. Then I started taking Vicodin/Lortab (hydro-anything) and got pregnant with my 7 month old last year and stopped. It just seems real easy to quit when I have a reason too, even though I have a bad back problem and it aches a lot throughout the day. I was stupid after I had my daughter 7 months ago and started with the Vic's again. Now I am down to 10 mg a day- 5mg in the morning and 5mg in the evening. sometimes just a 5 in a day. So I have finally git myself to that point with a lot of SELF CONTROL.... It is best to start tapering when you have plenty of pills to do that with. No everyone does and that is horrible to go from 20 pills a day to 0. So you are on the right track. Keep up the good work. It is great you have a husband that is their to support you. PROUD of you, keep up the good work and if you need to talk I am here. Rae
Rae- Can you list those boards? I had another I really liked, but it is now gone. This one is a lifeline, but I need more.
See if you can get there by typing in www.healthboards.com and then you can get through on the pain management boards and addiction and recovery.Let me know if that works if not I can try and send you a link but I am not real sure I can do that, I just have it saved in my favorites. I think that is a great message board, JIMO! Rae
ya, know, earlier i was realy concidering not ever coming back. i figured that this was worse than the w/d itself. Not finding someone to talk to and doing it alone realy scares the h** out of me. Maybe now even more than the w/ds.
But once again, You have all proved to be the people you say you can be b helping me. I do feel better. And i do feel im on the right track. Like i said before, its the mind addiction that was keeping me from stopping, i mean that i constantly had to count those hours and pills to take . I wouldnt even go outside if i felt there was a chance of running out. I have made it past that.!!!!! Im very proud of myself and in the same thought , im also very dissapointed in myself as well. I should be able to stop cold turkey and i cant. I hate pain and i hate the thought of pain more. Its a big problom but i feel that this way i can deal with it one day at a time.
I have listened to people write on here and noticed all the contradictions in what they say. First its one thing and then another. All i ask of you all... is honesty, we dont need to lie to each other, we dont realy know each other. I could be SANTA for all anyone knows. I cant feel like im being helped if people are lieing to me. For the most part @least99% of you all have been wonderful and helped so much. But for those of you who insist on lieing to other people, i will pray for the help you truly need. It must be bad if you feel you still, awter all this, feel the need to be dishonest and lie about your addiction.
With that off my chest, i thank all of you who have helped me tonight. dannyob, cowgirl, mistyeyes, jasmine and everyone eles whos names i cant remember right now, you have been my angels tonight and i thank you from my heart of hearts. Sleep well tonight knowing that once again, you have helped someone and made there life alittle better.
Thanks to you all,
Christina(friend)
But once again, You have all proved to be the people you say you can be b helping me. I do feel better. And i do feel im on the right track. Like i said before, its the mind addiction that was keeping me from stopping, i mean that i constantly had to count those hours and pills to take . I wouldnt even go outside if i felt there was a chance of running out. I have made it past that.!!!!! Im very proud of myself and in the same thought , im also very dissapointed in myself as well. I should be able to stop cold turkey and i cant. I hate pain and i hate the thought of pain more. Its a big problom but i feel that this way i can deal with it one day at a time.
I have listened to people write on here and noticed all the contradictions in what they say. First its one thing and then another. All i ask of you all... is honesty, we dont need to lie to each other, we dont realy know each other. I could be SANTA for all anyone knows. I cant feel like im being helped if people are lieing to me. For the most part @least99% of you all have been wonderful and helped so much. But for those of you who insist on lieing to other people, i will pray for the help you truly need. It must be bad if you feel you still, awter all this, feel the need to be dishonest and lie about your addiction.
With that off my chest, i thank all of you who have helped me tonight. dannyob, cowgirl, mistyeyes, jasmine and everyone eles whos names i cant remember right now, you have been my angels tonight and i thank you from my heart of hearts. Sleep well tonight knowing that once again, you have helped someone and made there life alittle better.
Thanks to you all,
Christina(friend)
I forgot to say thank you to pregnantmom and rae also, you two have been angels as well, and i thank you too!!!
I didnt mean to forget you , i just couldnt remember the names.
Christina
I didnt mean to forget you , i just couldnt remember the names.
Christina
Hey Rae, I've heard what you said by more than just you, but I'm not sure I understand it. From what I see, people seem to be really nice and always try to help new people and answer questions. I think we all do our best to help with whatever knowledge we individually have and can share. I see people reaching out to one another to the best of their ability on a daily basis. I can't even recall an incident of a newcomer being ignored or mistreated. Most disagreements seem to be with people who have been around awhile and have personality differences with others. People give advice on different levels of knowledge and compassion. I've never seen tough love given to a first time poster either. That's pretty much reserved for someone who's been around long enough to understand what they need to do. All this having been said, why don't you come and lend your experience? Much love, Kat
Chris-just hang in there tonight. We all need to take it one day at a time. I myself am worried about tonight, but then again,I worrry WAY too much. That is MY problem.
danny, why may i ask , are you worried about tonight???/
Christina
Christina
Chris, I just worry. I used to be on Xanax, which is a HARD drug to quit, but I am 100% sure of my recovery from that evil drug. But I still get anxiety now that I am off it. It's not like Vic's and stuff. WAY more mental. Like a bad acid trip that lasts for weeks. I'm over it pretty much 90%, but God help anyone who takes it.
Danny are you still out there I have a question......Now that you are off the xanax how is your anxiety in general?
Misty, the anxiety is still bad, but I'd rather be off of Xanax than suffer the anxiety. I know it hard for anyone to understand, but that drug can be evil. It's meant for short term use (something like 6-8 weeks) and I was on 'em seven years. So I am like WAY anti-Xanax, unless used correctly. We all have our deamons though...whatever the drug of choice. Thats why I agree with love/love. It's friggin hard.
Kat,
You say you don't understand what I am saying? I really don't know how else to word it without sounding rude. I am saying NOT EVERYONE here but a lot of people are just full of DRAMA. There are some very nice,polite and caring people that respond to posts but there are more people that respond to the negative posts. I for one understand what you are saying about people having the personality conflicts are those people that have been on here longer than new comers. However, that is my point. Nobody new lurking,wanting to post a question will want to look for advice from those who have been on these message boards throwing around negative,rude comments.It from my opinion is hard to want to stick around and take anyone seriously if more than half the posts are stupid arguements that nobody is going to win,anyway! Everyone has their own opinions and some people just need to remember to be more sensitive to others and what they may be going through. considering people here are all here for one common goal to get help, educate,make friends and recover. Those that are not here to lend a hand should seek out other ways to take out their anger, This is my opinion! Like I said I am not lumping everyone together, there are great people here to help others on this board but more drama than anyone can stand for any period of time. It was absolutly draining to read all the negative posts today! Tomorrow is another day! Good Night,Rae
You say you don't understand what I am saying? I really don't know how else to word it without sounding rude. I am saying NOT EVERYONE here but a lot of people are just full of DRAMA. There are some very nice,polite and caring people that respond to posts but there are more people that respond to the negative posts. I for one understand what you are saying about people having the personality conflicts are those people that have been on here longer than new comers. However, that is my point. Nobody new lurking,wanting to post a question will want to look for advice from those who have been on these message boards throwing around negative,rude comments.It from my opinion is hard to want to stick around and take anyone seriously if more than half the posts are stupid arguements that nobody is going to win,anyway! Everyone has their own opinions and some people just need to remember to be more sensitive to others and what they may be going through. considering people here are all here for one common goal to get help, educate,make friends and recover. Those that are not here to lend a hand should seek out other ways to take out their anger, This is my opinion! Like I said I am not lumping everyone together, there are great people here to help others on this board but more drama than anyone can stand for any period of time. It was absolutly draining to read all the negative posts today! Tomorrow is another day! Good Night,Rae
IF THE POST WERE SO DRAINING WHY THEN DID YOU CONTINUE READING THEM???? I COME TO THIS SITE EACH DAY AND READ MOST OF THE STUFF POSTED HERE. BUT IF IT IS SOMETHING UPSETTING I STOP READING IT. I HAVE ENOUGH IN MY LIFE THAT DRAINS ME WHY ADD MORE HERE. THIS MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.
Hey Chris, there is a awesome web site that is awesome, its sober 24! try it, i go on women helping women.. i am there as well, try it, keep in touch, jazzy..
p.s. for men as well of course! lol..
p.s. for men as well of course! lol..
Stacy,
Sorry that I make NO SENSE to you. But like I said as a new comer I like to just read posts for a while before I decide to post and it was draining to read all the arguing yesturday! I have a lot going on in my life to and try not to read each and every negative post but it's hard when more than half are. Thanks for being so understanding in seeing it from my point... Have a great day! Rae
Sorry that I make NO SENSE to you. But like I said as a new comer I like to just read posts for a while before I decide to post and it was draining to read all the arguing yesturday! I have a lot going on in my life to and try not to read each and every negative post but it's hard when more than half are. Thanks for being so understanding in seeing it from my point... Have a great day! Rae
