Hey anyone!
I was reading some other posts and one of them mentioned GABA and Valerian Root as helping with w/d's - I've never heard of these before.. can someone tell me what they are and if they do help with w/d's....
Thanx....
Alright ..Lou..i dunno what exactly they are....but i have deff.seen it in my local chemist,so if its available down here..well check out Boots or yer own local.Just a thought ..Bryn my gal from Philly put me onto Omega 3&Amino acids&even though i aint had any smack or benzos in nearly 6mnth...but still on the methd.....they really helped with my mood&energy levals.As it says on the box "ask your local pharmacist"&Bryn.
Take care as ever ...Davey
Take care as ever ...Davey
Yeah, that was the worst the last time I got clean, I thought with all methadone out of my system after about 3 weeks I'd be on top form - not though! I had absolutely no energy and kept getting real breathless even if I walked.. I kind of like the spins that I get, don't like if they go into one of those second 60 shaking fits that you think lasted hours.. I think I will hit the chemist and check out those amino acids and the other stuff that I mentioned in my other post.
Keep filling me in...
Keep filling me in...
Hey Lou.......how ya making out?
I'm a dang natural holistic one chick sideshow.
O.K. GABA and Valerian.....I wouldn't mess with it......Valerian is for nerves and stuff......only I don't know where ya hail from......in the States it's not inspected stuff.....meaning you can virtually screw yourself up worse than the dope would with this stuff.......not all of it, but it's like real live medicine.
Davey, I am glad that the Omega, and AA's helped......that's cool......it works better the longer you are taking it......I actually did something right.....that's a great feeling....I'm glad that I helped.
Lou, Amino Acids and a B-Complex will help better.......all them herbs can freak ya out, and too much of one particualr amino acid made me NUTS....I'm already nuts so that was not cool......L-Phenylalanine......see we're addicts so if it's a pill shape and says take one I take five.......that's how we do.....addicts.
Well, L-Phenalalynine is an amino acid.......of course it says it's good for mood so what do I buy.....come on now.......it made me wacky.......so ya have to be careful.....look for the B-Complex.......and Omega fish oil stuff, and amino acids in a multi-vitamin maybe.......definately stear off the herbs for now.....like melatonin......for sleep......if you have a liver left.....taking that stuff will certainly ruin it for good and you don't get high off it.....what's the use of ruining a liver?
You're doing good, Lou......hang in there.......it's necessary.
Man, the shaking fits........you are the first person in all my junkie days I ever heard mention that besides me......I call it the final kick......turkeying Id' get to like day three and just could not stand it anymore, and I'd literally go into like a fit, and it'd be down hill from there.......which is good downhil with that crap.
Like a demon is getting the heck out of Dodge is how it seems......OTC, I took the PM stuff, but minus the acetametophen after awhile cause there's that liver going again........PM without the Tylenol......some people kick with NyQuil....that got alcohol though........plain old fashioned like Pepto Bismal stuff........that helps your stomach.......you want to get rid of that in your system so I never took like Immodium or anything.....I wanted it OUT.
You can do this thing........yes you can........just be careful with the herbs and vitamins.......they don't regulate the use......and being addicts we think we know about everything....I did anyway, and I don't.
Omega will help with your moods.......safe too.......the amino acids I think I recall is what we deplete and they are so important....just not ONE though....like a mixture and only recommended dose.....it really helps.
Oh too sounds weird.......apple cider vinegar.......get ya a teaspoon, and take it or mix it with a glass of water.....that stuff rocks......it will clean out your whole system.......helps metabolism......I swear by it, but then again I am a weirdo.
No joke I lost weight taking a teaspoon a day with garlic.......good stuff.
Carry on, and as Davey said I come from Philly country.....we're brilliant over here......our society in my city is awesome.....LOL......I jest as I live in like murder capital of the entire land........there's good folks though everywhere, and if I was you, man I'd get clean and go to Spain, and forget this world.
Go clean......and you said it ain't tainted by junk.......I live around it and it's easily accesible, but I been clean pretty long and could not even tell a person where to cop......I have no idea and don't want to......the less I know the better, and I just thank my Higher Power I keep moving on.....I have to.
You can do this.
I'm a dang natural holistic one chick sideshow.
O.K. GABA and Valerian.....I wouldn't mess with it......Valerian is for nerves and stuff......only I don't know where ya hail from......in the States it's not inspected stuff.....meaning you can virtually screw yourself up worse than the dope would with this stuff.......not all of it, but it's like real live medicine.
Davey, I am glad that the Omega, and AA's helped......that's cool......it works better the longer you are taking it......I actually did something right.....that's a great feeling....I'm glad that I helped.
Lou, Amino Acids and a B-Complex will help better.......all them herbs can freak ya out, and too much of one particualr amino acid made me NUTS....I'm already nuts so that was not cool......L-Phenylalanine......see we're addicts so if it's a pill shape and says take one I take five.......that's how we do.....addicts.
Well, L-Phenalalynine is an amino acid.......of course it says it's good for mood so what do I buy.....come on now.......it made me wacky.......so ya have to be careful.....look for the B-Complex.......and Omega fish oil stuff, and amino acids in a multi-vitamin maybe.......definately stear off the herbs for now.....like melatonin......for sleep......if you have a liver left.....taking that stuff will certainly ruin it for good and you don't get high off it.....what's the use of ruining a liver?
You're doing good, Lou......hang in there.......it's necessary.
Man, the shaking fits........you are the first person in all my junkie days I ever heard mention that besides me......I call it the final kick......turkeying Id' get to like day three and just could not stand it anymore, and I'd literally go into like a fit, and it'd be down hill from there.......which is good downhil with that crap.
Like a demon is getting the heck out of Dodge is how it seems......OTC, I took the PM stuff, but minus the acetametophen after awhile cause there's that liver going again........PM without the Tylenol......some people kick with NyQuil....that got alcohol though........plain old fashioned like Pepto Bismal stuff........that helps your stomach.......you want to get rid of that in your system so I never took like Immodium or anything.....I wanted it OUT.
You can do this thing........yes you can........just be careful with the herbs and vitamins.......they don't regulate the use......and being addicts we think we know about everything....I did anyway, and I don't.
Omega will help with your moods.......safe too.......the amino acids I think I recall is what we deplete and they are so important....just not ONE though....like a mixture and only recommended dose.....it really helps.
Oh too sounds weird.......apple cider vinegar.......get ya a teaspoon, and take it or mix it with a glass of water.....that stuff rocks......it will clean out your whole system.......helps metabolism......I swear by it, but then again I am a weirdo.
No joke I lost weight taking a teaspoon a day with garlic.......good stuff.
Carry on, and as Davey said I come from Philly country.....we're brilliant over here......our society in my city is awesome.....LOL......I jest as I live in like murder capital of the entire land........there's good folks though everywhere, and if I was you, man I'd get clean and go to Spain, and forget this world.
Go clean......and you said it ain't tainted by junk.......I live around it and it's easily accesible, but I been clean pretty long and could not even tell a person where to cop......I have no idea and don't want to......the less I know the better, and I just thank my Higher Power I keep moving on.....I have to.
You can do this.
Cool Bryn!
Thanx 4 that info.. Somehow I don't think I'll remember all that so it's gonna be a print off and me in the chemist reading out bits.. they'll think I've lost it.. I'm gonna start on those amino acid's and fish oils and stuff now so that when I get to Spain hopefully my energy levels will be better then they were the last times I quit.. that's what I found real difficult last time, I had absolutely no energy or inclinication to do absolutely anything...
I'm heading away on the 8th Jan till the end of Jan but am thinking of making plans to return for 6 - 12 months. If I really wanna do this I have to take myself away from where I'm surrounded by it.. My other half would have to stay here but then that might be good for us too... He swears that he won't use if I'm not here with him so that'll be the test, what's meant to be and all that stuff..
My heads not the best and my typing speeds are right down at the moment so I'm gonna sign off but keep reading...
Thanx 4 that info.. Somehow I don't think I'll remember all that so it's gonna be a print off and me in the chemist reading out bits.. they'll think I've lost it.. I'm gonna start on those amino acid's and fish oils and stuff now so that when I get to Spain hopefully my energy levels will be better then they were the last times I quit.. that's what I found real difficult last time, I had absolutely no energy or inclinication to do absolutely anything...
I'm heading away on the 8th Jan till the end of Jan but am thinking of making plans to return for 6 - 12 months. If I really wanna do this I have to take myself away from where I'm surrounded by it.. My other half would have to stay here but then that might be good for us too... He swears that he won't use if I'm not here with him so that'll be the test, what's meant to be and all that stuff..
My heads not the best and my typing speeds are right down at the moment so I'm gonna sign off but keep reading...
Lou..girl hope ya struggling thru&you can do this...Bryn is the best.Fish oils are helping me...get to Spain..settle the head.A clean Christmas..im thinking of you both...keep it up.....Take care...Davey
Davey what's subutex and could my GP prescribe me that? Is that better than Methadone to get you clean.. I've no more meth left now and am dreading tonight, tomorrow etc, etc,. My timing for things is so crappy, Xmas looming and I'm meant to be all bright and happy on the day in front of family and friends who haven't a clue about my drug use - I'm dreading it.. I've been trying to look up subutex on this computer but I'm just getting more and more confused the more I read, some say it's good for w/d's others say it's not.. What do you think?
Lou, the test isn't on you.......you'll be far away from the junk....if your partner uses than it's on them, and I hope they won't......usually when I made up my mind to kick myself, and police myself....that's when I did it....I was acoountable for me.
If you have to and I know it will bug you........if you have to then feign a flu and skip Christmas.....cause you may get discouraged.....you're doing a good thing.
Be proud, Lou.
If you have to and I know it will bug you........if you have to then feign a flu and skip Christmas.....cause you may get discouraged.....you're doing a good thing.
Be proud, Lou.
