a person who claims to be taking prescribed medications, which no medical doctor in the world would prescribe in the amounts this person purports to be taking and no pharmacist would fill even if some quack did write the script, joins a recovery website.
they claim they are not an addict, hates labels - merely a chronic pain victim, despite the fact that they are allegedly taking doses of a narcotic that no real junkie has ever taken and lived to tell about it - well, maybe a few times but not day after day for years on end.
this same person then claims that they are tapering from far-beyond these lethal daily doses to amounts that still exceed the maximum recommended daily dose and yet they still have the where-with-all to be able to provide support and advice to any and all - LOL'ing their way through one thread after another.
now i don't have a whole lot of experience with opiates, at least not in the sense that this person has - i was only addicted to them for 34 years, but i certainly know that sitting at a computer all day posting advice to the lovelorn while under the influence of heroin or morphine was never high on my list of priorities. i also certainly know that while i was in the throes of withdrawal camping out in front of a glaring monitor would have been way way down on that same list.
the only time that i would have been inclined to do any of the above mentioned activities was when i was tweaking on amphetamines.
in the words of forrest gump, "i'm not a smart man" - perhaps someone can enlighten me as to precisely how they can find credibility in such a story?
inquisitively,
*sdr*
Sounds like someone has a pretty strong case of denial going on, I suppose all we can do is pray they will find the truth before it is too late. In the interim if their posts are counter productive to your sobriety I would suggest ignoring them.
We are all a bunch of addicts here and as such it is pretty hard to fool anyone. Even if that person succeeds all they are really doing is fooling them selves.
God bless.
We are all a bunch of addicts here and as such it is pretty hard to fool anyone. Even if that person succeeds all they are really doing is fooling them selves.
God bless.
Hey Ron, there is a lot wrong with that picture. Must be an imposter. Sooner or later it always happens that you find out whom talks the talk but doesnt walk the walk. Don't let it rent too much space in your brain. Hugs to you Mr. Winkler. lol. Dawn
The main thing wrong with that picture - is that this person claims he/she is not an addict.
The rest is just fill-er
respect
jack
The rest is just fill-er
respect
jack
My questions would be who are we to judge, who is anyone......
And do you really know, are you sure, are you......Can you pick the truth out among the fiction......Sometimes it is not always what it seems. And this place, within the words it takes time, and patience to get it all, to see the story unfold, to see the soul within.
It is what it is, his life, her life.......I guess we could sit and criticize, pass judgement, oh maybe jump all up on their a**. Wonder will that help, or will it drive them away, leave them trapped in hell.
But maybe it is a matter of being patient, keeping our mouths shut unless we have something nice to say, something useful. Educate by example......
If there is one thing I learned being here it is that we can't save anyone but ourselves. We can support, love, pass out buckets of hope.......Maybe spark a fire within another, show them there is a better way. But to save someone, have that power, no never....... Sadly if we could, if it was that easy don't think many of us would be here.
Acceptance, Tolerance and Patience.......
Three things that in my opinion need to be practiced more here.....
Have a wonderful day,
Love,
Tina
And do you really know, are you sure, are you......Can you pick the truth out among the fiction......Sometimes it is not always what it seems. And this place, within the words it takes time, and patience to get it all, to see the story unfold, to see the soul within.
It is what it is, his life, her life.......I guess we could sit and criticize, pass judgement, oh maybe jump all up on their a**. Wonder will that help, or will it drive them away, leave them trapped in hell.
But maybe it is a matter of being patient, keeping our mouths shut unless we have something nice to say, something useful. Educate by example......
If there is one thing I learned being here it is that we can't save anyone but ourselves. We can support, love, pass out buckets of hope.......Maybe spark a fire within another, show them there is a better way. But to save someone, have that power, no never....... Sadly if we could, if it was that easy don't think many of us would be here.
Acceptance, Tolerance and Patience.......
Three things that in my opinion need to be practiced more here.....
Have a wonderful day,
Love,
Tina
Ron,
I agree. The picture does have many discrepancies. I am concerned about the power/influence on those who are unsuspecting. The new struggling people here and the unseen readers of this forum who are vulnerable. There lies the real danger; be it intentional or unintentional, it exists.
Mary
I agree. The picture does have many discrepancies. I am concerned about the power/influence on those who are unsuspecting. The new struggling people here and the unseen readers of this forum who are vulnerable. There lies the real danger; be it intentional or unintentional, it exists.
Mary
Sweet Daddy, Although I have no idea what or who you're talking about, what Tina said makes the most sense.
Just would like to add, I love your avatar, and will probably steal it. : )
for me, the answers are always in the book
"when i complain about me or about you, i am complaining about God's handiwork, I am saying i know better than God"
i believe that people are in our lives for a reason.
That everyone can teach us a lesson.
"when i complain about me or about you, i am complaining about God's handiwork, I am saying i know better than God"
i believe that people are in our lives for a reason.
That everyone can teach us a lesson.
Tinas right, who are we to judge?
But I am confused by all of this.
Redd
It is one thing to judge, another to be concerned.
Mary
Mary
I like that Mary.
Redd
Good Morning Everyone.
Misty has put it well. We need to ask ourselves, what good will come out of starting a thread such as this one, when it has been addressed over and over again. It will get locked. It should be locked.
The points made yesterday by the nurses were nothing more than from where they sit, based on their profession and their knowledge of being in the Medical Field, and being addicts. I thought it was an excellent informational topic. Sorry it was locked, and perhaps the Moderators could just remove posts that were not topic related and keep it going.
I appreciated the information they gave, as well as all others that had opinions and experiences.
Hey Carol, good seeing you.. :)
Misty has put it well. We need to ask ourselves, what good will come out of starting a thread such as this one, when it has been addressed over and over again. It will get locked. It should be locked.
The points made yesterday by the nurses were nothing more than from where they sit, based on their profession and their knowledge of being in the Medical Field, and being addicts. I thought it was an excellent informational topic. Sorry it was locked, and perhaps the Moderators could just remove posts that were not topic related and keep it going.
I appreciated the information they gave, as well as all others that had opinions and experiences.
Hey Carol, good seeing you.. :)
Mary, I so agree with you. Misinformation whether intentional or not can be deadly. I have seen many times where a newbie comes in, sees a post with the drug and the amount and responds with "Maybe I don;t have a problem cause I only did this amount." I recently saw a post and it said-It doesnt mean I am self righteous or judgemental, it means I am trying to prevent distractions and promote a positive atmosphere of recovery. The newcomer to me IS the most important person. If no one stands up to say hey, something is wrong with this picture, then I guess we could all have a popularity contest to see who did the most drugs in shortest amount of time or whom can respond to the newest post the quickest without having any ES&H on the matter. This disease kills. No matter how much or how little you used, what you have or have not. This disease kills. It is cunning baffling and very powerful. I am grateful to be here. ALIVE. Thanks Dawn
This was discussed until the cows came home yesterday. The thread was locked even though it had some useful and important information in it. I don't think we need the senerio to repeat itself. I personally do not care what or how much she is or is not using, only that she is a caring person and an addict who needs help. Don't hang me if I'm wrong, but I do not think she has ever claimed NOT to be an addict. What are the requirments to join this board? Let this die before people start arguing, yet again, and the thread gets locked, yet again. Let's learn from yesterday's thread, it was locked for a reason.
Amen-atlas
I aggree...let this go.
Omega
Omega
Amen!!!!
Who are we to judge others, when we need to be checking our own inventory...
Hoping today can be better then yesturday.....and keep this to recovery...
Gotta run, gee its so hard to leave here at times..
Take care and remember to encourage not discourage!!!!
Traci
Who are we to judge others, when we need to be checking our own inventory...
Hoping today can be better then yesturday.....and keep this to recovery...
Gotta run, gee its so hard to leave here at times..
Take care and remember to encourage not discourage!!!!
Traci
Ditto what Tina (Mistyeyes) said. Enough is enough. Love, Bri :)
SDR
here we go AGAIN???????????
Come on...topic has moved on....
And Im not an ego maniac
But KNOW you are referring to ME!!!!!
WRONG! Didnt a heroin addict teach you ANYTHING about tolerance???
Good grief!!!!!!
I apologize for the comment yesterday about getting your haircut so you can read my posts.
It was rude of me.
But your still wrong..lolol
Hugs
Ali
here we go AGAIN???????????
Come on...topic has moved on....
And Im not an ego maniac
But KNOW you are referring to ME!!!!!
WRONG! Didnt a heroin addict teach you ANYTHING about tolerance???
Good grief!!!!!!
I apologize for the comment yesterday about getting your haircut so you can read my posts.
It was rude of me.
But your still wrong..lolol
Hugs
Ali
Just read the other half of the posts related to SdR' rehashing.
Thankyou for those who believe me and understand tolerance, and see that hes stirring up the pot for yet ANOTHER lock down.
What surprises me more is you wolf....why on EARTH would i LIE about my MAX pathetic ( meaning it was high and pathetic to admit) amount???????????
My rock bottom shouldnt make you judge me. I cant believe this!
Anyway...thats it...will walk away this time...it just hurts to be judged by other addicts and told Im lying about my worst confession.
Hugs to all anyway
Ali
Thankyou for those who believe me and understand tolerance, and see that hes stirring up the pot for yet ANOTHER lock down.
What surprises me more is you wolf....why on EARTH would i LIE about my MAX pathetic ( meaning it was high and pathetic to admit) amount???????????
My rock bottom shouldnt make you judge me. I cant believe this!
Anyway...thats it...will walk away this time...it just hurts to be judged by other addicts and told Im lying about my worst confession.
Hugs to all anyway
Ali