I am new and I gather that there has been some sort of bust up in here. I havent a clue as to what has happened and I dont know who has been involved. But I dearly want to ask Kaela about benzos. I am using the benzo org site - but am having such difficulties - and I remember Kaela saying she had come down from 4 mg to 1.5 mg. How in heck did she do that? I would dearly like to talk to her about it. Seems from the benzo org site that it is going to take forever to get off. One man who started on xanax and who transferred to valium is still tapering off - after 3 long years. One or two years tapering is not unusual and so I really need to speak to someone who is suffering from this. So far Kaela is the only person I have found.
Has she gone?
Please give me some information - I am getting desperate - not only benzos but opiates to tackle. Looks like the opiates will be a lot easier to get off, but benzos are going to be unbelievably difficult - symptoms and time-wise.
Thanks in advance for help.
Maybe someone here has her email address, Rikki. Danny might be able to help you too, he's pretty knowledgable about benzos and w/d from them. Hope somebody comes along who can help you. Love, Kat
Thanks Kat - would love to talk to Danny
rikki,
Kaela has been banned from the forum by the moderators. I don't know all the details but there was too much drama going on and the focus of recovery was being lost. I am not saying that Kaela is bad there was just too much craziness going on and I guess they wanted things to calm down. I understand she will be allowed back in a little while. Im sorry, I don't know. This is sad as she may or may not have been able to help you. There was some concern that she was not honest or completly forthcoming. I am not to say. I am sorry for your struggle. If you look back through old posts perhaps you can find her e-mail. Also look in the prescription drug forum. I hope someone else will come around and be able to offer you advise. As far as the pain med stuff there are plenty of people here to offer help. If you find her e-mail I hope she might be able to help you. I don't know Kaela and will refrain from offering an opinion but I will say that there was great concern reguarding her truthfullness about many things including her addiction. truly, I wish you best of luck. I hope someone comes by soon to offer help.....
Kaela has been banned from the forum by the moderators. I don't know all the details but there was too much drama going on and the focus of recovery was being lost. I am not saying that Kaela is bad there was just too much craziness going on and I guess they wanted things to calm down. I understand she will be allowed back in a little while. Im sorry, I don't know. This is sad as she may or may not have been able to help you. There was some concern that she was not honest or completly forthcoming. I am not to say. I am sorry for your struggle. If you look back through old posts perhaps you can find her e-mail. Also look in the prescription drug forum. I hope someone else will come around and be able to offer you advise. As far as the pain med stuff there are plenty of people here to offer help. If you find her e-mail I hope she might be able to help you. I don't know Kaela and will refrain from offering an opinion but I will say that there was great concern reguarding her truthfullness about many things including her addiction. truly, I wish you best of luck. I hope someone comes by soon to offer help.....
Rikki,
I would be happy to help you look for so something. Kaela will be back in a few days I am sure. Besides her though there are many others that have been through a benzo withdrawl/Taper! I would highly recommend you find a doctor that can help you. What medication are you currently taking and how much?
Hopefully someone will come along shortly to give you advice on the benzo's. If you are taking pain pills such as Vicodin,Percocet,Oxy's etc there are many of us that can help you with that. Depending on how much you take daily you many want to try and wean off those first and do the benzo's after you are off the pain pills. That would be my best advice. When weaning off pain pills there are many OTC meds to help ease the discomfort of withdrawl. I would suggest you start by decreasing your dose 5 mgs every 5-7 days! I don't know what your goal is but if it's to be clean and live life without pills, I would start doing that!Good luck~ Rae
I would be happy to help you look for so something. Kaela will be back in a few days I am sure. Besides her though there are many others that have been through a benzo withdrawl/Taper! I would highly recommend you find a doctor that can help you. What medication are you currently taking and how much?
Hopefully someone will come along shortly to give you advice on the benzo's. If you are taking pain pills such as Vicodin,Percocet,Oxy's etc there are many of us that can help you with that. Depending on how much you take daily you many want to try and wean off those first and do the benzo's after you are off the pain pills. That would be my best advice. When weaning off pain pills there are many OTC meds to help ease the discomfort of withdrawl. I would suggest you start by decreasing your dose 5 mgs every 5-7 days! I don't know what your goal is but if it's to be clean and live life without pills, I would start doing that!Good luck~ Rae
i completely detoxed off of a massive comsumption of benzos over a long time of abuse - in, believe it or not - 14 days. i did this under the supervision of an addictionologist while inpatient at a rehab hospital.
i was too busy learning ways to clean up the wreckage of my past to be bothered with the physical ailments of benzo detox or paws.
there is a solution.
namaste'
sammy
i was too busy learning ways to clean up the wreckage of my past to be bothered with the physical ailments of benzo detox or paws.
there is a solution.
namaste'
sammy
Now that is something people should read over and over again sammy, thanks
Best Regards,
Tom
Best Regards,
Tom
rikki this is my third and hardest taper of benzos (xanax) mainly and u have to do it very slowly and u should be monitored by a doctor! any help i can give, ur most welcome to ask me.....i go to the prescription board too, kaela was not doing it under supervision and in my opiniona little too fast, im only allowed to come off 1mg a month due to the fact that seizures may occur! slowly is the only safe way. im off for the night now but ill check in tom. night take care xoxo
Hey sammy nice to see ya hows things? jackie xx
Thanks so much to all for your kind and thoughtful responses. Elvis - like you - I am doing it so very slowly. I have joined the forum at benzo org - but it is frankly terrifying and I am not so sure that some of them arent real head bangers. Tree huggers? One suggests drinking water with lemon as a cure? I ask you????????
I have come down from 2 mg of ativan to 1 mg and will now try to cross over to valium as recommended by C H Ashton. It has taken so long. I am finding it to be hell. The withdrawal symptoms are so very painful and continuous - I am never without them. At the moment I am dropping monthly in tiny increments as suggested by my doc. With any luck if I manage to change to valium then 1 mg of Ativan = 10 mg of valium (I think?). Then I will reduce slowly by 1 mg every fortnight or month. And even less as I get lower. For my sins this is not the first time I have had to do this. I wont bore you with my history but will explain I had horrific personal circumstances which caused me to use ativan again - and after a couple of months was well and truly hooked. This time withdrawal is all the more painful. I swear I will never get into this situation again.
Elvis, and anyone else - if you have any advice I would dearly appreciate it.
Without wanting to insult anyone - I loathe the benzo org forum - it scares the pants off me - altho there is a wealth of information on the site - but the forum is a very unhealthy place - in my opinion. I think that those in charge have lost sight of real life and live in a sort of benzo twilight. Perhaps this is cruel - maybe they have just not yet recovered enough to live life to the full again.
The opiates - well - they started following a smashed bone injury - but I am reducing slowly and that taper is going OK - its the benzos which present such difficulties.
Looking forward to all your advice.
Rikki
PS - I wondered how on earth Kaela had got down from 4 mg to 1.5 mg of a benzo in such a short time - I simply cannot believe that is possible - but then other posters seem to have managed it? Did any posters suffer from seizures? depersonalisation, crawling skin, derealisation, hallucinations, aggression, obsessions ............. and on and on!
I have come down from 2 mg of ativan to 1 mg and will now try to cross over to valium as recommended by C H Ashton. It has taken so long. I am finding it to be hell. The withdrawal symptoms are so very painful and continuous - I am never without them. At the moment I am dropping monthly in tiny increments as suggested by my doc. With any luck if I manage to change to valium then 1 mg of Ativan = 10 mg of valium (I think?). Then I will reduce slowly by 1 mg every fortnight or month. And even less as I get lower. For my sins this is not the first time I have had to do this. I wont bore you with my history but will explain I had horrific personal circumstances which caused me to use ativan again - and after a couple of months was well and truly hooked. This time withdrawal is all the more painful. I swear I will never get into this situation again.
Elvis, and anyone else - if you have any advice I would dearly appreciate it.
Without wanting to insult anyone - I loathe the benzo org forum - it scares the pants off me - altho there is a wealth of information on the site - but the forum is a very unhealthy place - in my opinion. I think that those in charge have lost sight of real life and live in a sort of benzo twilight. Perhaps this is cruel - maybe they have just not yet recovered enough to live life to the full again.
The opiates - well - they started following a smashed bone injury - but I am reducing slowly and that taper is going OK - its the benzos which present such difficulties.
Looking forward to all your advice.
Rikki
PS - I wondered how on earth Kaela had got down from 4 mg to 1.5 mg of a benzo in such a short time - I simply cannot believe that is possible - but then other posters seem to have managed it? Did any posters suffer from seizures? depersonalisation, crawling skin, derealisation, hallucinations, aggression, obsessions ............. and on and on!
rikki just came back to check before my movie starts. if i were u, id come down 1mg a month not fortnight, to be on the safe side, yes personally i think kaela is doing it too fast and is not being monitored.....well i wouldnt do it that way but to answer ur ques yes i have had, mood swings, seizures in the past, and very mild hallucinations....take care i will be around again soon, all the best! xoxo
Elvis
I have no intention of reducing by 1 mg of ativan every two weeks. I will now cross over to 10 mgs of valium (equivalent to 1 mg ativan) and reduce by 1 mg of valium every fortnight. Towards the end I will slow it down further to .5 mg valium every fortnight or month.
Speak soon
Rikki
I have no intention of reducing by 1 mg of ativan every two weeks. I will now cross over to 10 mgs of valium (equivalent to 1 mg ativan) and reduce by 1 mg of valium every fortnight. Towards the end I will slow it down further to .5 mg valium every fortnight or month.
Speak soon
Rikki
