I was shocked when I saw a program on National Geographic yesterday. Since the war on terror started in the middle east the war on drugs has gone by the wayside.
That is a very high number....90%...the way in which the H gets out of the country is very corrupt. For most, they realize that they maybe executed if caught cultivating there poppie fields but it's the only source of income that they have.
You saw a normal looking farmer....working his poppie fields. They are Muslim and know what they are doing is wrong...but they do it anyway.
Has anyone seen this program? It was a real eye opener.
Dont mean too sound know it all Kee Kee but its been like that for the last 30 yrs.in Europe at least..goes from Afganistan to Turkey where its made from opium to heroin...then thru the Balkan route to all the main cities in Europe....Amsterdam is a main centre for the distrubution of heroin to the U.K&Ireland....the war on drugs has failed coz purity levals have risen and price has gone down....gotta go its bathtime for my daughter.....take care..........Davey
..Kee Kee..
..Im not sure how it all works..but im not surprised at the percentage rate..did'nt see the prog but have seen some like it down the years..but its the only way the farmers can earn themselves a few more quid..they don't give a monkeys about the addiction percentage..just the money that goes in their pocket..they're probably all on the gear themselves ?..take care..Robbie..
..Im not sure how it all works..but im not surprised at the percentage rate..did'nt see the prog but have seen some like it down the years..but its the only way the farmers can earn themselves a few more quid..they don't give a monkeys about the addiction percentage..just the money that goes in their pocket..they're probably all on the gear themselves ?..take care..Robbie..
Maybe so Rob....but they are certainly laughing at the Infidels all strung out on there homegrown tackle.....but these farmers aint got nothing else to grow they been at it for centuries ...think a few bob from the U.N or whoever is gonna change their minds or lifestyles...nope and the counrties that corrupt and unstable anything goes and its coming all our way...chat soon.......Davey
Acually a year so ago there was a post on here about where H comes from..... i had wrote something about most of it coming from Afganistan. I've heard crazy conspiracy theoroies from people i know about the War and H. I've heard from a Marine that the "usa" sprays the poppy fields with weed killer and exc and then when it's harvested and prosessed you can get really BAD dope. I've heard the USA PROTECTS the fields i've heard all kinds of crazy crap about H and Afganistan. My question is even if it's grown there hows it getting out?. It's clear the goverments not trying to stop it from getting out it's no Secret, where it's coming from.
Hey guys...the program left me with a lump in my stomach and a little vomit in my throat. These people, there lives, the families, the chaos and destruction. It was saddening and sickening.
I think that you are right Davey, the war on terror has eased the roadways for the war on drugs....here in the West.
I think that it always found a way of getting over here, but now it is at an alarming rate. It's cheap and easily available.
It doesnt discriminate on your socio economic class or race, religion, creed or color...this isn't news. They profiled a sweet 16 year girl from an upper middle class family that showed her descent into the madness. Her and her friends started out by buying a little and snorting amongst the 5 of them....cut to 3 years later.....she had been a visitor of hospitals, rehabs and mental institutions as she was mainlining it straight into her neck.
God help us. This is the face of a junkie. Not a back alley scallywag all strung out and robbing people (well that too) but it is where you would least expect it.
Once it opens those receptor in your brain.....you are well on your way...no matter who you are!
I think that you are right Davey, the war on terror has eased the roadways for the war on drugs....here in the West.
I think that it always found a way of getting over here, but now it is at an alarming rate. It's cheap and easily available.
It doesnt discriminate on your socio economic class or race, religion, creed or color...this isn't news. They profiled a sweet 16 year girl from an upper middle class family that showed her descent into the madness. Her and her friends started out by buying a little and snorting amongst the 5 of them....cut to 3 years later.....she had been a visitor of hospitals, rehabs and mental institutions as she was mainlining it straight into her neck.
God help us. This is the face of a junkie. Not a back alley scallywag all strung out and robbing people (well that too) but it is where you would least expect it.
Once it opens those receptor in your brain.....you are well on your way...no matter who you are!
ZeroG....basicallly the opium poppy is these Afgani farmers only way of making a viable living....its a corrupt war torn country that unfortunatly can produce opium on a very large scale.geograhically wise.You hear all that weed killer s*** from Mexico..via Columbia ...to Afganistan...has it stemmmed the tide of any of these drug producing nations...NO!!!...but its good press in the U.S...i.e were doing something proactive bout the problem...blah blah!!
As i said before the opium is transported via Pakistan then to Turkey were its converted into near pure brown heroin....from there it has a age old route thru the Balken countries....with a lot of help from the Russian mafia.......every large Eastern Eropean city has a major smack problem.Then to Western Europe including the U.K....Amsterdam is the gang buisiness centre of heroin distribution trade....deals are done and shipments are made.....not necessaeily with Amsterdamers but its a haven of organised crime as is some parts of Spain.I only know as regards the U.S that some of yer gear comes from Mexico but the wily Columbions have diversifed into heroin production enter your fentynal mixed dope ....that was a Columbian ploy.....so im asssuming a good %of the smack on U.S streets originates in Columbia.....yes Afganistan has the market sown up in Europe but in the U.S i think your Southern American cousins are the main players.....sorry for the blab but i think its important we know somehow were the stuff addicts use is coming from and why....A.T.B........Davey
As i said before the opium is transported via Pakistan then to Turkey were its converted into near pure brown heroin....from there it has a age old route thru the Balken countries....with a lot of help from the Russian mafia.......every large Eastern Eropean city has a major smack problem.Then to Western Europe including the U.K....Amsterdam is the gang buisiness centre of heroin distribution trade....deals are done and shipments are made.....not necessaeily with Amsterdamers but its a haven of organised crime as is some parts of Spain.I only know as regards the U.S that some of yer gear comes from Mexico but the wily Columbions have diversifed into heroin production enter your fentynal mixed dope ....that was a Columbian ploy.....so im asssuming a good %of the smack on U.S streets originates in Columbia.....yes Afganistan has the market sown up in Europe but in the U.S i think your Southern American cousins are the main players.....sorry for the blab but i think its important we know somehow were the stuff addicts use is coming from and why....A.T.B........Davey
Remember when some heroin addicts got anthrax?
Now there's something.
Our heroin here..........I think the East Coast..............comes from them countries like Columbia..............places like that.............I'm sure some of the Afghan comes this way..........imagine being an addict in Afghanistan........I'm sure ya wouldn't get treatment.
Cold turkey............one time somebody told me it was called that cause how they make ya kick in Turkey............they got dope there..........but not much safer is our I guess from Mexico and stuff...........maybe even the Dominican I think it comes.
Did any of us ever care though, really............if a dog put it out when he did his business I know I'd have still did it.
Now there's something.
Our heroin here..........I think the East Coast..............comes from them countries like Columbia..............places like that.............I'm sure some of the Afghan comes this way..........imagine being an addict in Afghanistan........I'm sure ya wouldn't get treatment.
Cold turkey............one time somebody told me it was called that cause how they make ya kick in Turkey............they got dope there..........but not much safer is our I guess from Mexico and stuff...........maybe even the Dominican I think it comes.
Did any of us ever care though, really............if a dog put it out when he did his business I know I'd have still did it.
Yeah - when Columbia, Mexico, & that Southern route in general, saw how much cash was flowing in from Cocaine- they couldn't resist getting into the heroin game.
Black tar- something we don't see on the East Coast comes outta Mexico into Texas and the Western states - Supply & demand - always was always will be
Black tar- something we don't see on the East Coast comes outta Mexico into Texas and the Western states - Supply & demand - always was always will be
It's a business as they say and they sure treat it as such. Very unfortunate.
I'm still haunted by seeing them pictures of the anthrax on the heroin addicts. I think it was in England actually.
Black Tar. Now in Texas they give the little kids "Cheese". Heroin mixed with Tylenol PM.
KIDS!!!!!!!!!!! LITTLE KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Back in our day a Qualude was your recreational drug if ya did drugs. Maybe some Tuinals. Indeed dangerous, and life threatening, but I do not recall anybody getting addicted.
Oh, but once they stopped making them "Ludes" they had Mexican Qualudes.
Heaven knows how they made them or where. Probably not in Mexico, but in someone's garage.
I'm still haunted by seeing them pictures of the anthrax on the heroin addicts. I think it was in England actually.
Black Tar. Now in Texas they give the little kids "Cheese". Heroin mixed with Tylenol PM.
KIDS!!!!!!!!!!! LITTLE KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Back in our day a Qualude was your recreational drug if ya did drugs. Maybe some Tuinals. Indeed dangerous, and life threatening, but I do not recall anybody getting addicted.
Oh, but once they stopped making them "Ludes" they had Mexican Qualudes.
Heaven knows how they made them or where. Probably not in Mexico, but in someone's garage.
