A Better Way

Ive been using lortab for about 3 years approx 400mg a day.I did a lot of research on addiction.I detoxed in about 3 weeks and didnt even feel any w/d
The new drug is called SUBOXONE in my case i started off taking 8mg for
7 days and then 4mg for 7 days at last 2mg for 6 days.This drug can be used
through out patient treatment 5 to 6 hrs a day. Ive been in the gutters and this
is a much better way.
T erry M.
Could you please give me info on the drug you mention...What is it what does it do.....Mollyjean
The drug makes you feel normal with out any w/d symtoms only certain
doctors can write pres. check the drug through webmd
Terry M.
It is a new drug on the market that is supposed to elemanate Methadone and is way less harsh on the system, with drawl wise, i have never tryed it, but it is being called the miracle drug of addics, stop cravings, and if you try to get high you cant, that the beauty of it..

I am currently looking for a addiction specialest doctor to inquire about it??, as i feel this will really help me!! what do u think?

I am all alone everyone is asleep, amd i feel bad being awake, oh well, how is all??
Ok Thank YOU...mollyjean
Sweet Jazzy Im probaly gonna sign off so I can call,(I run my computer through the phone lines which stinks....I'll talk to you soon YOUR NOT ALONE>>>>mollyjean
Terry, I agree I used the sub for 11 days and have been off for three days now. No withdrawals at all. It is a miracle drug. I used a taper schedule similar to yours but I was off after 11 days. I recommend it to anyone who can find a sub doc and cant go cold turkey.

JohnDee
Hi John
Glad to hear that youre doing good! When I was going off the percs - I couldnt find anyone in my area that was qualified to prescribed that sub. It really does sound like a miracle drug!!

Took your advice and bought that sublingual B-Complex (all the B's) - I couldnt really tell if it worked or not yet - I'm exhausted from shopping (walking for hours) at the mall yesterday.

You take care of yourself - Question - does that mean now that the sub is out of your system? I'm just wondering if you get any "cravings" or any or side effects after that!!

Love,
Marie
Hi
Please dont think of sub as a miracle drug. I was on it for six weeks and once i got below 2mg the withdrawals were quite bad. Its okay for short term use , a few weeks, but any longer and the withdrwals can be hell. I should also add that detox is the easy bit, relatively speaking, and if you go on sub you have to use that time to adjust your life to being drug free and learn new coping skills. Some stay on 1-2 mgs for the rest of there lifes. to be honest my withdrawal off it was worse than the origional problem but I was drinking on it and apparently drink stops it metabilizing properly in the liver. I had a real bad rattle poops and aches.
As I said in another thread I am on it long term now and take 18mgs a day.
Also it is only new in the US it has been used in europe for around 20 years.
Warmly Paul
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Neon, thats the key, thats why I only used it for 11 days. My goal was to be off it by two weeks. From all the reading I did on the sub boards, if you can start with the lowest dose possible and be off by two weeks withdrawals are slim to none, and they were.

Marie, the second day off the sub I was a little tired, but that was the extent of the withdrawals. I suppose there are a lot of factors involved such as length of addiction, drug used for addiction, amount of drugs used for addiction, also factored into the equation is everyone is different. Thats why you have to take everybody case by case. My doctor encouraged me to take just enough to stave off withdrawals and the wean aggressively.

I do still get a little craving but I know I dont want to go down that road again. This was my third time going off the drug and by far the worst, I figure the next time would be even worse and that alone should keep me from using, along with either counseling or meetings or both.

I also had a hard time finding a doctor, I called everyone within 30 miles and I got lucky that a doc 6 miles from my home had an opening. Now I can call him Monday and open up my spot for someone else.

Good luck
JohnDee
Neon, I forgot to add, my doctor tolr me under no uncertain terms, DO NOT DRINK WHILE ON SUB.

JohnDee
I have been off sub for 3 weeks and i feel great.if some one is taking sub and
has finished their pres and has any more problems then that person should go back to the doc. it may take more but be careful.because it is very addictive
I still have cravings but there nothing like they were.
Terry M.
John said
>Neon, I forgot to add, my doctor tolr me under no uncertain terms, DO NOT DRINK WHILE ON SUB.<

You are right but how many of us addicts take any notice of Dr's and drug bottle labels. I for one do not or should I say did not, even when taking vitamins, If the instructions tell me one a day then I figure 4 a day must be better lol
Paul

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I agree Neon and Im not one to talk, but he kinda got my attention when he mentioned I could die.

JohnDee
F#ck as soon as I get myself fighting fit again,Im going after some politicans and the health department and asking them some questions,we are so far behind the times over here in NZ I reckon,the methadone waiting lists are from 18 months to 2 years and there is no sign of sub....... being available over here.