Ok, Ill only say this one more time. There are certain people on this board that have chased away many valued members. My God, how can you chase Sammy away? She was one of the most thought provoking members. And Mitzy and a number of others. STOP IT with you self righteous attitudes. We all have an addiction and we all need each other to help work through it. Paul wouldnt come here out of fear that he would be judged. I hope you (and you know who you are) are all proud of yourselves. You beat people up, you act like you have accomplished something. It makes me sick. Leave people alone. If you dont have something nice to say, keep your pie hole shut. Id rather see Sammys post or Mitzys post than yours. And you know exactly who you are. Im f***ing pissed now. STFU.
Oh Danny, you are a good friend indeed!! yeah i have to say that I am pretty pissed off that Sammy left, sweet, sweet Sammy, WTF did she ever do to anyone besides love and care for us?? I am going to stay for know, however, if theres any s*** that goes down i am otta here! w/o any warning because then i will be accused of trying to get attention again... thats what i did not want really!!
SAMMY, PLEASE, PLEASE COME BACK!! you add so much to the board and i love your words of wisdom!! look my email is Jasmine49@comcast.net
email me if you can so that we may talk!
take care all...................mitzy......................
SAMMY, PLEASE, PLEASE COME BACK!! you add so much to the board and i love your words of wisdom!! look my email is Jasmine49@comcast.net
email me if you can so that we may talk!
take care all...................mitzy......................
I just came this board and I found alot of you are caring mitzy being one of them,, very encouraging . So what's the problem? I hope the kind ones don't go some of us need you.
I have wondered about Sammy but had no idea she had left. She certainly seems too smart to get drawn in to any of the B.S. that goes on sometimes. Sammy seems the closest thing to an angel I have ever met. Anyone who insulted her is an a** h***.
Sammy, don't know what happened, but please know many of us here need you and are very inspired by your views. Please don't stay away.
Good grief!
Hi TM, yeah Sammy posted that she was leaving the board, i know why, just can not say on this board....my email is jasmime49@comcast.net email me and i can tell you.....thanks for the sweet posts all of you who did.....
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Sammy is an angel. She has always helped people, put people before herself. I always read her entire post. She is so motivating. I wish she was my sponsor. And to see her leave it just heartbreaking.
Mitzy........thanks and I just may e-mail you. But I want to go back and find her post where she says she leaving. Very interested in what she said.
BTW......you shouldn't leave either. Don't know what is up, but please don't let anything or one take you away from something you know is good for you! You are sweet and reach out to many who are in need. To stop doing so would be a disservice to your fellow addicts!
I truly have no patience with mean people who intentionally hurt others.
AAHHHHHH, how sweet, thanks...... i will read your email and email you back!
Danny, as u probably know i havent been posting all that much lately (i've personally felt a little hypocritical i guess, like going to an na meeting high) but maybe i should have been. after all, i'm somewhat of a newcomer and i had preconceived ideas as to the point of this board.
But i think my understanding has changed, it is a place for help, support & free communication that results from a desire, or a seed of a desire to help us or anyone with this affliction we all suffer from.
u dont have to be straight or clean or anything else to post here, i think. u just have to want help or to lend support & to not encourage others to go back & maybe provide some helpfullness while they are using.
This isn't na, aa , or any kind of dogmatic website. They have Na websites for that. We are not fundemantilist Christians, Hasidic Jews, Jehovas witnesses or diehard athiests. We are not all clean & we do not all use. We are somewhere & we all should have help and kindness to offer. If I want to feel bad, or judjed, I can talk to my wife or go to my motherinlaws church.
I think Danny's right, we don't have to pussyfoot around, but a lot of compassion should go into all our thoughts.
I got an e-mail from an old girlfriend (who doesnt use, except maybe smoke once in a while) who told me when we were going out (i'm talkin 30 years ago) she always wanted to get high with me, but i was so "self righteous & anti-drug " that she never mentioned it. Needless to say, this shocked me, cause i remember a lot of things, but being self righteous isn't one of them.
This was during my born again Chrisitan phase, & I was clean & thought drugs were "of the devil" etc. etc. I really think some of it was a defense mechanism to keep me from using. Kind of like having a gun at ur head. But my point is, when we get judgemental, maybe we need to examine our own motives. Sometimes some of this harshness toward others might be a defense mechanism for ourselves & we are maybe causing unintentional harm.
We all make mistakes, I even made one a couple years ago, but i just can't remember what it is, but would whoever it was that drove Sammy away, get her back.
But i think my understanding has changed, it is a place for help, support & free communication that results from a desire, or a seed of a desire to help us or anyone with this affliction we all suffer from.
u dont have to be straight or clean or anything else to post here, i think. u just have to want help or to lend support & to not encourage others to go back & maybe provide some helpfullness while they are using.
This isn't na, aa , or any kind of dogmatic website. They have Na websites for that. We are not fundemantilist Christians, Hasidic Jews, Jehovas witnesses or diehard athiests. We are not all clean & we do not all use. We are somewhere & we all should have help and kindness to offer. If I want to feel bad, or judjed, I can talk to my wife or go to my motherinlaws church.
I think Danny's right, we don't have to pussyfoot around, but a lot of compassion should go into all our thoughts.
I got an e-mail from an old girlfriend (who doesnt use, except maybe smoke once in a while) who told me when we were going out (i'm talkin 30 years ago) she always wanted to get high with me, but i was so "self righteous & anti-drug " that she never mentioned it. Needless to say, this shocked me, cause i remember a lot of things, but being self righteous isn't one of them.
This was during my born again Chrisitan phase, & I was clean & thought drugs were "of the devil" etc. etc. I really think some of it was a defense mechanism to keep me from using. Kind of like having a gun at ur head. But my point is, when we get judgemental, maybe we need to examine our own motives. Sometimes some of this harshness toward others might be a defense mechanism for ourselves & we are maybe causing unintentional harm.
We all make mistakes, I even made one a couple years ago, but i just can't remember what it is, but would whoever it was that drove Sammy away, get her back.
Thanks for the very excellent post Browndog
Trideltmom, i did not get your email?? you said that u sent one right?
Whenever I have something to say I always remember a saying a friend of mine told me
Say what you mean, just dont say it mean.
JohnDee
Say what you mean, just dont say it mean.
JohnDee
Say what you mean, just don't say it mean....I like that John. I think I'll pass that on to my kids, cool saying. Who tried to run Mitzy off? I must have missed something here. And from what I hear about Sammy, all is well and she and whoever had problems have patched them up and are doing great.
No need to get all excited guys, I think everything is just fine. But Mitzy, why do you think anyone is doing this to you? love, Kat
No need to get all excited guys, I think everything is just fine. But Mitzy, why do you think anyone is doing this to you? love, Kat
Hello Kat, nice hearing from you hun, anyways i will email you ina few and let you know whats going on....thanks .......
Mitzy.........no I didn't e-mail you. I gotta get out and entertain my son. He's driving me nuts. Guess the whole Sammy thing is Ok by what Kat said anyway.
Talk later!
Danny, well said. I haven't been on for a while, but someone pointed me to the thread in which Sammy finally gave up and felt she had to leave. So it may have died down, but not sure I'd say it's all ok now. We've lost another valued member, hopefully not permanently. Maybe it will cause a few people to see their righteous arrogance for what it is, but I have little hope. Sammy tried, and I sure couldn't say it either as well or as nicely as she. M.
I think Sammy felt she was beating her head up against the wall, but alot of us listened to her every word and she is missed by me.
She does have a lot of other thinks going, so maybe she feels her time is better spent elsewhere.
I hope she pops her head in now and then to let us know how shes doing.
She does have a lot of other thinks going, so maybe she feels her time is better spent elsewhere.
I hope she pops her head in now and then to let us know how shes doing.
Sammy was just awesome and I really miss her.
I for sure miss Sammy and her posting. She was a FINE example of what recovery is all about. We could ALL learn from her and her experiences. Sammy, if you are out there please reconsider, don't let ANYONE stand in your way of helping others.
Deb
None of us are perfect..... NONE of us...... If we are clean, we've all relapsed or had that moment in our lives where we WEREN'T sober..... So why should we be rude or mean or insulting to those that are still struggling with recovery? We've all been there....
I've been a part of this site for almost four months now and the one thing I loved about it is that I can talk to people from all over the world who are like me..... I didn't have to be perfect, I didn't have to pretend like I was this perfect creature who doesn't have a drug problem.... I could come here, faults and all, and be accepted and have people really, truly UNDERSTAND me.
As we all know, belittling someone or nagging them about getting clean doesn't work.... Being accepting, being kind, and being there for support is what others need from us.
If I wanted to hear nagging or bitching, I'd log off the computer and go talk to my husband... LOL (just kidding, honey)
I've been a part of this site for almost four months now and the one thing I loved about it is that I can talk to people from all over the world who are like me..... I didn't have to be perfect, I didn't have to pretend like I was this perfect creature who doesn't have a drug problem.... I could come here, faults and all, and be accepted and have people really, truly UNDERSTAND me.
As we all know, belittling someone or nagging them about getting clean doesn't work.... Being accepting, being kind, and being there for support is what others need from us.
If I wanted to hear nagging or bitching, I'd log off the computer and go talk to my husband... LOL (just kidding, honey)
