BEN, I have a question that has been driving me NUTS all day. I know people who order from OLP's and of course when you do that, you go to different websites to obtain more.
So, my question is, when the dark cars pulled up...was it because of purchasing more then recommended amount allowed or was it from selling when you "used" to and they caught up with you. If it was for just ordering off the internet< Im going to make some calls and help some people to avoid that at all costs.
If you don't want to answer, I understand.
This post has been edited by wiversen on December 11, 2005, 4:39 PM
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Toodles,
It is just plain plain illegal. Unless you have a prescription from a doctor you have physically seen it is illegal. Not only is it ilegal, its a federal felony. Tell all, I wish others understood this. Those sites that you sign onto and fill it out questions and a 'doctor' calls you? Illegal. I could have gone to federal prison, I could have been convicted of 40 felonies if they had the evidence, but they didnt. I did 2 months in county jail. I got clean before I went to serve my time and I am still clean today. It was a blessing from God that I was caught and rescued.
It is ilegal. Scary wake up call, but...Im awake!
Spread the word,
ben
It is ilegal. Scary wake up call, but...Im awake!
Spread the word,
ben
Oh man!!!!!! Im going to Ben.......I just don't know how the heck they can operate? I have friends who do it and it would be horrible to see that happen....Thank you for your insight.
I think you may have saved lives here with your post if anyone is contemplating buying on the internet. they are going to be scared straight.
This makes me mad!
why doesnt the police go after the ones SELLING it?????????
thats like arresting all the hookers and leaving the Johns to get more..
Sorry not a great analogy but you know what i mean...
Hugs
Ali
why doesnt the police go after the ones SELLING it?????????
thats like arresting all the hookers and leaving the Johns to get more..
Sorry not a great analogy but you know what i mean...
Hugs
Ali
I know what you mean Ali but I think they are showing that they are going after both. The sellers and the buyers. You sign an authorization that says you wont stockpile and that you have not ordered from anyother internet site. I think that is where it is not legal for either party.
I had read somewhere on here that order on line meds, were either outdated or were not even the real thing. Blows me away at how people get away with selling them on line. What was really freakie is before we got a really good spam blocker we use to get emails trying to sell us the meds WE were taking.I felt some way they ( the emailers) knew our medical records....I have never gone on a site that sells them.......but it was so weird....
Hope people will read and learn from your experience, even though it was not a good one..and yes maybe today you have saved someone's life..
Hope people will read and learn from your experience, even though it was not a good one..and yes maybe today you have saved someone's life..
I got almost real close to doing this one time and the directions they emailed me freaked me out .It was like put your money in this kind of enevelope and blah blah only mail it from thie place and fax a copy of your idea.Too weird but have talked to someone in my family that has done irt and the dr that called and gave the interview or whatever asked him what is your name....Rate your pain before you take the pain pill.... rate of pain 1-10 after the pill that it!!!! Boom 240 Norcos exactly like the onesyou get at the pharmacy we used to call them bananas.sure enough the real deal there they came COD and he didnt have a money order and really thought it was bs they came in 36 hrs he checked out who the package was from and told fed ex to come back the next day and he would have the money order and sure enough got em .It tripped me out I just stuck to busting fakies. Much love and thats a very true story you all.Has only dojne it one more time since but didnt have to talk to the dr and BTW the dr could barely speak English trippin for real HUH?
Its ilegal no matter how you get them. The only way it is leagl for you to have CSA drugs is if you have a Rx from a doctor you have PHYSICALLY seen. Many of mine were COD. Then I had the Pre-counts, the ones where you set up with a doctir from some foregn country and they call you the first time and that its. I had one place from Mexico. I had to send a money order to California and then when the guy in Cali got the guy from mexic would mail the order to me. I did it, thats the insanity. I got busted doing the COD thing, that was the regular one for me.
2 months after I got busted, The DEA Raided the Net Pharm I was sciring from and three weeks after that 80 other net pharms were shut down along the east coast going all the way to India. 220 people were arrested and many still await trial. During that time I was being questioned by the DEA every other day and offered deals abound. I still may have to testify, but they have the big guns now and I think that is why my case was sent back to county level.
A federal Pound me in the a** prison would make for an unhappy Ben. They saved my life though.
Ben
2 months after I got busted, The DEA Raided the Net Pharm I was sciring from and three weeks after that 80 other net pharms were shut down along the east coast going all the way to India. 220 people were arrested and many still await trial. During that time I was being questioned by the DEA every other day and offered deals abound. I still may have to testify, but they have the big guns now and I think that is why my case was sent back to county level.
A federal Pound me in the a** prison would make for an unhappy Ben. They saved my life though.
Ben
When i was on a cruise last year
we arrived to aport in Mexico.
Big Banners greeted us with:
VIAGRA NO_PRESCRIPTIONA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VALIUM....NO PRESCRIPTIONA!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had to laugh, but sure enough get into the town and there is a "Pimip" standing outside the pharmacy saying to the women"
" Pssst..beautiful..lady..You wanna Buy some valium..some morphina??????"
And to the men " Hey Senior...wanna viagra...makes you strong like bull!!"
i kid you not. Bet they arent even real drugs either.
Unbelievable story but true.
Hugs
Ali
we arrived to aport in Mexico.
Big Banners greeted us with:
VIAGRA NO_PRESCRIPTIONA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VALIUM....NO PRESCRIPTIONA!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had to laugh, but sure enough get into the town and there is a "Pimip" standing outside the pharmacy saying to the women"
" Pssst..beautiful..lady..You wanna Buy some valium..some morphina??????"
And to the men " Hey Senior...wanna viagra...makes you strong like bull!!"
i kid you not. Bet they arent even real drugs either.
Unbelievable story but true.
Hugs
Ali
Yeah there not real. I got ganked from Mexico more than once. GREAT KNOCK OFFS though.
huh i thought so.........
wonder if they are dangerous or just placebos ( sugar pills)
Hug
Ali
wonder if they are dangerous or just placebos ( sugar pills)
Hug
Ali
Probably both. I took em' anyway. I would take one, if it didnt do anything I would take more and more. Should be dead.
Ali?
Ohhhhh Ali?
Will you please do us all a favor? Post here tomorow and let us know that you have spoke with your doctor, at least by phone. It would ease a lot of minds. I CANNOT wait until you get clean and are clean for a couple months and you look back and you realize that you indeed were clouded even while only taking Five. When the fog lifts you will be amazed! I am excited for you! The bad stuff will be over soon, just walk through it and never forget how bad it was.
Hang in there and call the doctor.
Ben
Ali?
Ohhhhh Ali?
Will you please do us all a favor? Post here tomorow and let us know that you have spoke with your doctor, at least by phone. It would ease a lot of minds. I CANNOT wait until you get clean and are clean for a couple months and you look back and you realize that you indeed were clouded even while only taking Five. When the fog lifts you will be amazed! I am excited for you! The bad stuff will be over soon, just walk through it and never forget how bad it was.
Hang in there and call the doctor.
Ben
pssst
ooooh Beeeen
You didnt see post on the other thread?? The one that had turned ALl the attention to little old ME???lolol
I phoned him.
After miss kates experience and advise.....i thought it was best
Did you have earthquake like tremors too??
Hugs
Ali
ooooh Beeeen
You didnt see post on the other thread?? The one that had turned ALl the attention to little old ME???lolol
I phoned him.
After miss kates experience and advise.....i thought it was best
Did you have earthquake like tremors too??
Hugs
Ali
I didnt see that. I get lost in all the posts.
I didnt have tremors. I was curled up in a ball freezing and hot at the same time. I puked hourly and almost sharted myself 100's of times. My body cramped to a point in which I could not move. I got through it by going to meetings. You will get through as well. This is your choice Ali and you know that. Live or Die? I think we all know what your choice is. Walk through it!
Ben
I didnt have tremors. I was curled up in a ball freezing and hot at the same time. I puked hourly and almost sharted myself 100's of times. My body cramped to a point in which I could not move. I got through it by going to meetings. You will get through as well. This is your choice Ali and you know that. Live or Die? I think we all know what your choice is. Walk through it!
Ben
I dont know about walking through it right now Ben
,....its more like crawling through it....
Hugs
Ali
( You know i love you right???)
,....its more like crawling through it....
Hugs
Ali
( You know i love you right???)
Ali, with what your going thru...All you need right now is level or positive period. All the negative will ruin you.
Can we all be nice? I would hate to see a relapse. Or tapering gone bad.
Can we all be nice? I would hate to see a relapse. Or tapering gone bad.
Wiverson..
You are so wonderful, you add so much to this board, and again i must point out you are seldom wrong in my eyes...
You know what? I worry about negative stuff affecting people too...I remeber being here for the very first time, thinking i was going to die, i was so scared to post and share my story.....
And do you remember that day??? The pretend to be Ali poster???...there was mass confusion and I had people very mad at me, and in fact not even answering my post because they didnt know that i was serious....I just sat there staring at my computer and wondering if I had finally flipped my lid...I KNEW it wasnt me posting.....but there was my name...again and again and again......
the person apologized, and was sincere, but the reason i bring this up is because I want to remind everyone how much we CAN both positively and negatively affect one another on the board.
its only a computer...only an internet....there are no faces, no eyes to look into....and yet we can actually provoke a physical or mental reaction to the person sitting thousands of miles away.
Thats a power that can be too easily abused. No one to look at when youve made them cry, no feelings of guilt when you see the hurt in their face.
I didnt use that day...by the Grace of God i did not run to my bottle of pills and soothe my raw nerves, pain and anguish.........but it could easily have happened.
We all need to keep in mind, just like you stated Wiverson, that our words have power, they can motivate, reassure, soothe, cheer up, but can also, inflict pain,
re-open old wounds and summon child-like fears.
Ben and i have a somewhat playful banter, and often it can walk a fine line between humor and truths, sarcasm and insults.
im 42 years old, and not easily threatened, but truth be told, so early on in my recovery and still tapering, I can be vulnerable. I look to others here for support and look for similarities of our situations, to confirm to myself, I CAN DO THIS.
Finding this board, that is open to ALL journeys to sobriety, whether it be 12 step based or not....has been one of my life's blessings. I mean that.
Even with its limitations, its been therapeutic and reassuring, and any fights that Ive had along the way, though painful, have had great outcomes. Those in the program that our working their steps, are like all of us..not perfect, but i have grown to respect their willingness to admit any fault or admit their part in a fight, and apologize..with SINCERITY.
Its the ammends thing i guess...its a beautiful thing. Like unconditional love towards self and others...
The 2 or 3 times ive been in the PA chatroom, I was FLOORED by the respect in the room...talk about being emtionally affected by simple being "On line" Unless youve been there, its hard to describe...but you can actually FEEL the love...its the strangest thing...I wonder if others feel that too. Unconditional acceptance, tolearnce and love....There are lessons to be learned in that..it IS possible to interact with others on line and have respect and show love.
Anyway, sorry to ramble...just wanted to say i appreciate your post and agree with you once more...100% lolololl
Hugs
Ali
You are so wonderful, you add so much to this board, and again i must point out you are seldom wrong in my eyes...
You know what? I worry about negative stuff affecting people too...I remeber being here for the very first time, thinking i was going to die, i was so scared to post and share my story.....
And do you remember that day??? The pretend to be Ali poster???...there was mass confusion and I had people very mad at me, and in fact not even answering my post because they didnt know that i was serious....I just sat there staring at my computer and wondering if I had finally flipped my lid...I KNEW it wasnt me posting.....but there was my name...again and again and again......
the person apologized, and was sincere, but the reason i bring this up is because I want to remind everyone how much we CAN both positively and negatively affect one another on the board.
its only a computer...only an internet....there are no faces, no eyes to look into....and yet we can actually provoke a physical or mental reaction to the person sitting thousands of miles away.
Thats a power that can be too easily abused. No one to look at when youve made them cry, no feelings of guilt when you see the hurt in their face.
I didnt use that day...by the Grace of God i did not run to my bottle of pills and soothe my raw nerves, pain and anguish.........but it could easily have happened.
We all need to keep in mind, just like you stated Wiverson, that our words have power, they can motivate, reassure, soothe, cheer up, but can also, inflict pain,
re-open old wounds and summon child-like fears.
Ben and i have a somewhat playful banter, and often it can walk a fine line between humor and truths, sarcasm and insults.
im 42 years old, and not easily threatened, but truth be told, so early on in my recovery and still tapering, I can be vulnerable. I look to others here for support and look for similarities of our situations, to confirm to myself, I CAN DO THIS.
Finding this board, that is open to ALL journeys to sobriety, whether it be 12 step based or not....has been one of my life's blessings. I mean that.
Even with its limitations, its been therapeutic and reassuring, and any fights that Ive had along the way, though painful, have had great outcomes. Those in the program that our working their steps, are like all of us..not perfect, but i have grown to respect their willingness to admit any fault or admit their part in a fight, and apologize..with SINCERITY.
Its the ammends thing i guess...its a beautiful thing. Like unconditional love towards self and others...
The 2 or 3 times ive been in the PA chatroom, I was FLOORED by the respect in the room...talk about being emtionally affected by simple being "On line" Unless youve been there, its hard to describe...but you can actually FEEL the love...its the strangest thing...I wonder if others feel that too. Unconditional acceptance, tolearnce and love....There are lessons to be learned in that..it IS possible to interact with others on line and have respect and show love.
Anyway, sorry to ramble...just wanted to say i appreciate your post and agree with you once more...100% lolololl
Hugs
Ali
Thank you ali....absolutley eloquent post with heartfelt words. Sometimes staying away from each other when it gets toxic helps. Like don't post by each other. Avoid threads that they are in to ensure it will turn out with good resolve.
Hang in there everyone. She is tender right now.
Hang in there everyone. She is tender right now.
I have learn to take what I need and leave the rest.....
Ali, your doing a darn good job...keep it up your attitude will get you there..just be strong.......
Ali, your doing a darn good job...keep it up your attitude will get you there..just be strong.......
