Is bumpsnomore still here? I need you! do you remember me? msladyj???? I am back! and going through w/d BIG TIMES! you were so very supportive to me! How are you doing? are you still clean? I miss our talks!!!! PLEASE get a hold of me if you are around....
ms lady..........
janet is still here, she will usually post on the "goos morning"
so nice to see ya
miss ya
thumper
janet is still here, she will usually post on the "goos morning"
so nice to see ya
miss ya
thumper
Welcome back Jac! Going to have to refresh my memory, sorry! Okay, now I remember, I went back and reread your old posts.
So are you starting all over again? No matter, we all have been in that position before. keep coming here and posting, still lots of nice people here.
Yes, I'm still clean, let me see, 21 months now...
I'm glad I was able to help you before.
So are you starting all over again? No matter, we all have been in that position before. keep coming here and posting, still lots of nice people here.
Yes, I'm still clean, let me see, 21 months now...
I'm glad I was able to help you before.
oh I am so glad both of you replied! both of you helped me soooooo much last time!
Has it been that long already? 21 months???? GRONGRATS!!! I am soooo proud of you!!!
yeah, last summer I went off of the pain pills and went on sub. the sub didn't seem to be working for me, even the doc was concerned. btw, i am going to a new doc, he is much better!!
anyway, he was concerned cuz all i did on the sub is sleep, and the pain was so bad....
I did another mri and they found a cyst in my spine. but for some reaaon, the spine doc in this town did nothing about it. so here I am stuck with pain. with no maney to travel to a differant doc. I did research on the cyst and for the most part they reccomend surgry. so, i really don't know what is up with that.
anyway, my new doc took me off of sub, i think in Dec. and put me back on pain pills and the durastgic patch.... the patch made me sick and Iost a lot of weight, can't afford to do. I am down to 104... maybe less.
went in last tuesday and told him I am done! i want off the patch and pills??? he was hesitant, but said ok, if that is what you want. but can you handle the pain? i said, no, but I hate being on the pain pills..... so.... he gave me 40 perc, which were suppose to last me till tonight and one for tomorrow morning. but, uh, well, i have one left. I was waking up in the middle of the night having to take one for sometimes two for the pain.
so, now I am stuck and don't know what to do. I really can't afford the sub, but I always end up running out of pain pills. and I get them on a weekly basis. IF i could just sleep through the night, i wouldn't run out!
I go see my doc monday morning at 9 and am going to discuss all of this with him. i really can't afford the sub. it is way too expensive, but I guess pain pills are, too. no win situation! but, he is a wonderful doc and I am glad I found him.
my problem now is getting through today and tomorrow....
and yes, i need to talk, obviously! LOL and any advice would be welcome! thanks for listening to my story and ANYONE who has ANYTHING to say, I sure WELCOME it! thanks I love you and have missed you! Jac
Has it been that long already? 21 months???? GRONGRATS!!! I am soooo proud of you!!!
yeah, last summer I went off of the pain pills and went on sub. the sub didn't seem to be working for me, even the doc was concerned. btw, i am going to a new doc, he is much better!!
anyway, he was concerned cuz all i did on the sub is sleep, and the pain was so bad....
I did another mri and they found a cyst in my spine. but for some reaaon, the spine doc in this town did nothing about it. so here I am stuck with pain. with no maney to travel to a differant doc. I did research on the cyst and for the most part they reccomend surgry. so, i really don't know what is up with that.
anyway, my new doc took me off of sub, i think in Dec. and put me back on pain pills and the durastgic patch.... the patch made me sick and Iost a lot of weight, can't afford to do. I am down to 104... maybe less.
went in last tuesday and told him I am done! i want off the patch and pills??? he was hesitant, but said ok, if that is what you want. but can you handle the pain? i said, no, but I hate being on the pain pills..... so.... he gave me 40 perc, which were suppose to last me till tonight and one for tomorrow morning. but, uh, well, i have one left. I was waking up in the middle of the night having to take one for sometimes two for the pain.
so, now I am stuck and don't know what to do. I really can't afford the sub, but I always end up running out of pain pills. and I get them on a weekly basis. IF i could just sleep through the night, i wouldn't run out!
I go see my doc monday morning at 9 and am going to discuss all of this with him. i really can't afford the sub. it is way too expensive, but I guess pain pills are, too. no win situation! but, he is a wonderful doc and I am glad I found him.
my problem now is getting through today and tomorrow....
and yes, i need to talk, obviously! LOL and any advice would be welcome! thanks for listening to my story and ANYONE who has ANYTHING to say, I sure WELCOME it! thanks I love you and have missed you! Jac
Well sweetie sounds like talking to the dr is the only course of action for now. The sub didn't help the pain? I'm not familiar with it, only what I read here. Would you consider surgery?
I've been holding out on neck surgery myself, got one more series of shots to try and that's it....I really don't want surgery.
I don't know what to tell you about sleep, I can't take pain meds at night because they wire me up.
You know that someone is here most of the time, keep posting and I'm sure that you will find some comfort here.
I've been holding out on neck surgery myself, got one more series of shots to try and that's it....I really don't want surgery.
I don't know what to tell you about sleep, I can't take pain meds at night because they wire me up.
You know that someone is here most of the time, keep posting and I'm sure that you will find some comfort here.
nope! the sub didn't do anything for me, but make me sleep! bummer.
not sure if i would do the surgry, but, the one doc i went to said he wouldn't do it. so i feel stuck. not sure what to do.
don't even know how i am going to pay for the sub.... i'll probably end up on pain meds again till i have more $$$. that sucks. going through wd this weekend only to go back on them....
the pain is sooooo intence right now i just can't handle it! but, wht am i to do?
i've still got one pain pill left. i did have 3 but didn't realize it. but, you know, one pill just doesn't do anything.... oh well.....
how are you????
thank you for talking to me.... please keep talking to me.....
not sure if i would do the surgry, but, the one doc i went to said he wouldn't do it. so i feel stuck. not sure what to do.
don't even know how i am going to pay for the sub.... i'll probably end up on pain meds again till i have more $$$. that sucks. going through wd this weekend only to go back on them....
the pain is sooooo intence right now i just can't handle it! but, wht am i to do?
i've still got one pain pill left. i did have 3 but didn't realize it. but, you know, one pill just doesn't do anything.... oh well.....
how are you????
thank you for talking to me.... please keep talking to me.....
Hi jac...I know w/d sucks but why would go through it all weekend and then go right back on. If you can get through this weekend you will almost be home free. From the physical dependence.
I would highly recommend getting some support either from AA/NA or therapy. Call AA or a 1 800 drug line in your area...you don't have to go through this alone. Getting off pain meds is step one.
I couldn't have done it without the help of the program. I never believed it would be of help. To my surprise it has been so much more.
Please try to relax...how about the tub...I lived in the tub. Tell everyone your sick because you are...and get through. Don't refill a script, if you think this time w/d is hard...well it only gets harder each time.
Take back your life and your power to be the person you should be and could be!
Please keep posting it might help.
I would highly recommend getting some support either from AA/NA or therapy. Call AA or a 1 800 drug line in your area...you don't have to go through this alone. Getting off pain meds is step one.
I couldn't have done it without the help of the program. I never believed it would be of help. To my surprise it has been so much more.
Please try to relax...how about the tub...I lived in the tub. Tell everyone your sick because you are...and get through. Don't refill a script, if you think this time w/d is hard...well it only gets harder each time.
Take back your life and your power to be the person you should be and could be!
Please keep posting it might help.
Yes, you have a good point. but the thing is, i'm not sure I can live with the every day pain caused by the cyst in my back.
so, therefore, i just don't know what to do.....
but, i will concider not getting the refill, just not sure how long I can go in pain.... what does a person do in my situation?
my doc was hesitant about taking me off pain meds cuz he knows how bad the pain is.....
any ssuggestions?
thanks!!
jac
so, therefore, i just don't know what to do.....
but, i will concider not getting the refill, just not sure how long I can go in pain.... what does a person do in my situation?
my doc was hesitant about taking me off pain meds cuz he knows how bad the pain is.....
any ssuggestions?
thanks!!
jac
My doctor is an addiction specialist and has he very involved in the medical community and his lifes work involves research on opiates and pain.
Opiates exasperate pain after prolonged use. They make pain worse!! I broke my foot and true the narcotics helped for a few days...then the extra strength Tylenol did the trick. Maybe even Motrin 800 should help you.
As addicts we sometimes manufacture our pain to be worse or more intense than it actually is...this way we can "justify" our use of pain meds!
You have to search your soul very deeply....you know the answer sometimes we just don't want to face it because it puts us outside our comfort zone.
Opiates exasperate pain after prolonged use. They make pain worse!! I broke my foot and true the narcotics helped for a few days...then the extra strength Tylenol did the trick. Maybe even Motrin 800 should help you.
As addicts we sometimes manufacture our pain to be worse or more intense than it actually is...this way we can "justify" our use of pain meds!
You have to search your soul very deeply....you know the answer sometimes we just don't want to face it because it puts us outside our comfort zone.
Hello and welcome back. We've never spoken before and I'm not familiar with your story. If you have painkillers for reasons of legitimate pain, but still abuse them, you'll have to find someone to hold the pills for you or get them doled out to you in small quantities by your pharmacist.
Hang in there. Hot baths, like Kerri said. How old are your kids? Are they old enough to understand that you're sick and need to take care of yourself?
Hang in there.
Regards,
Gina
Hang in there. Hot baths, like Kerri said. How old are your kids? Are they old enough to understand that you're sick and need to take care of yourself?
Hang in there.
Regards,
Gina
I have been taking 800 mg of mortrin every 4 to 6 hours and absolutly NOTHING!!
But, I understand what you are saying about the pain meds. that is why they have to keep "upping" the dose... it all makes since.
i am just very confused. I remember the pain i had before ever taking pain meds and i would just lay on the floor crying my eyes out. oh how I don't want to be there again.
i just wish i could find a good spine doc. but living in this small town... well, i would have to travel at least 3 or more house and i just dont' have the money!
thank you for your input. i will really think about it.....
But, I understand what you are saying about the pain meds. that is why they have to keep "upping" the dose... it all makes since.
i am just very confused. I remember the pain i had before ever taking pain meds and i would just lay on the floor crying my eyes out. oh how I don't want to be there again.
i just wish i could find a good spine doc. but living in this small town... well, i would have to travel at least 3 or more house and i just dont' have the money!
thank you for your input. i will really think about it.....
well, i do take them for a ligit reason, i have a cyst in my spine. I don't really abuse them. sometimes i run out before i should, but i always tell my doc. the ONLY reason i don't have any now, is because we planned it this way. well, i should have had enough to last me through today, but, as i went of the pain patch i was waking up in the middle of the night for some meds. anyway, monday morning he is suppose to put me back on sub. i tried it before and it didn't help me. but, i am tired of pain pills. but, i can't afford the sub, so, not sure what he will do. i just know going through this is so hard and it sucks!!! and i am confused and i hate life right now! LOL
my kids are 8 and 12. m 8 year old is at his dads house for the weekend. and my 12 year old isn't here right now, but he knows what is going on and is pretty supportive. i have great kids!
thank you for writing! if you want to write more, i will too!
my kids are 8 and 12. m 8 year old is at his dads house for the weekend. and my 12 year old isn't here right now, but he knows what is going on and is pretty supportive. i have great kids!
thank you for writing! if you want to write more, i will too!
You sound like you're a little panicky so I'll throw this out. It's a relaxation technique that's gotten me through many a panic attack:
"Square breathing.
Normal breathing is parallel - one breath in followed by one breath out. Anxiety and nervousness cause you to increase the rate of breathing, bringing more oxygen into your bloodstream and adding to the body's automatic flight or fight response. Try square breathing to slow down your rate, to reduce oxygen in your bloodstream and to calm yourself:
Take one breath in to the count of four.
Hold it for a count of four.
Exhale to the count of four.
Hold for a count of four.
Repeat."
Concentrate on relaxing the abdominal muscles and breathing from your diaphragm. With enough practice, just the act of counting to four now is enough to calm me (if I catch myself before I actually spin out). But it's like LaMaze classes. You have to start practicing before you're in the middle of an attack. Can you set aside ten minutes of quiet time for yourself and practice meditation?
I don't know that it will make your actual pain any better, but pain causes anxiety and anxiety makes it harder to deal with pain. It's a vicious cycle which you can break with practice.
"Square breathing.
Normal breathing is parallel - one breath in followed by one breath out. Anxiety and nervousness cause you to increase the rate of breathing, bringing more oxygen into your bloodstream and adding to the body's automatic flight or fight response. Try square breathing to slow down your rate, to reduce oxygen in your bloodstream and to calm yourself:
Take one breath in to the count of four.
Hold it for a count of four.
Exhale to the count of four.
Hold for a count of four.
Repeat."
Concentrate on relaxing the abdominal muscles and breathing from your diaphragm. With enough practice, just the act of counting to four now is enough to calm me (if I catch myself before I actually spin out). But it's like LaMaze classes. You have to start practicing before you're in the middle of an attack. Can you set aside ten minutes of quiet time for yourself and practice meditation?
I don't know that it will make your actual pain any better, but pain causes anxiety and anxiety makes it harder to deal with pain. It's a vicious cycle which you can break with practice.
Hey, thanks for the advice! i tried it! it's awesome and does help ease the anxioty! sorry, i'm a bad speller!!!
