gina,
I got your email and I tried to mail you a response but it came back undeliverable.. so I will post one here maybe it was a blessing anyway...
so ...
gina after I left work on monday I got sick at home and long story short was in the er with a gallbladder attack... so they think.. until tuesday moring.. so I didnt come to work yesterday to see what had transpired on the boards .. so to say the least I was shocked... I would most definately have put in my 2 cents in had I seen it..
so better late than never here it is and I will copy it over there as well....
to all that felt the need to feed into the 'please dont go... your soo great....' thing of august... while I applaud you in therory for your wanting to stick up for a person that you see as being wronged.. as this is what us 'crew' do(using someone elses barbaric term) you will find that we 'crew' dont usually resort to such tactics as direct character attackes nor did we 'crew' start this in an effort to attach august ... it was admitted that the first post by bob was an effort to 'draw him out' which was their normal dialogue though most of you wouldnt know that .. and bob was quick to point this out... and bob admitted that sharon was right when she reminded us that if august had made a decision than ... so it was then august that went to the other board and posted things that were shall we say things that were very defensive and so provoking to others that he knew that it would begin things... if he were in fact the victim and the 'bigger man' then why not just say ...i made my choice based on the contraversy and my need for my recovery ... and be the end of it.. but no he had to be all elaborate and .. he very well knew what he was doing and what buttons he was pushing... but those of you on the fringes dont always see the manipulations the bigger picture...
I am not saying that ( in this case)bob, gina , liz , or myself are always right.. we make mistakes and we put our pants on one let at a time but so does the rest... and we have thoughts and opinions and reasons for those opinions and peopls that get into the mix and turn it into a pissing contest just changes the focus and any meeting of the minds that could have taken place.... esp when you draw lines in the sand and you with out knowing the big picture get into it....
Having said all that I do not wish to have any new responses other than from the original players.. august bob or gina.. I am not starting up a dead contraversy... I hope that august can see that the drama that has happened on the pill board has yielded good in some results .. I do not wish to have august as an enemy but that we are all human and that no one person is completely right or wrong based on how well they express there self or on what ailment they have....
hope all takes this in the spirit it is intended... as a healing tool and not a tool to further beat our heads in.... john q. public takes enought swings at us as addicts we really dont need to do it to ourselves needlessly..
teresa
Well thats the least useful 'healing tool' I've come across in a long time.
Maybe its relevant to some of you on the pain pills board, I don't know. It doesn't seem very relevant here.
Pot-heads generally tend to abhor agression and drama. This thread leaves me depressed and wanting to reach for a toke.
Please I ask you to keep this drama on the original board. I think I speak for most of us when I say it has no place here.
This is a response from someone other than the 'original players'. Respectfully I ask could you please leave us our peaceful haven.
Maybe its relevant to some of you on the pain pills board, I don't know. It doesn't seem very relevant here.
Pot-heads generally tend to abhor agression and drama. This thread leaves me depressed and wanting to reach for a toke.
Please I ask you to keep this drama on the original board. I think I speak for most of us when I say it has no place here.
This is a response from someone other than the 'original players'. Respectfully I ask could you please leave us our peaceful haven.
Well depressed,
Than August should have posted on the pill board. He brought it here not us.
It was only said that he was missed, August posted his opinions here that we responded too. So, I suggest asking August if he wants to address us than to do so on the other board. Read the thread, he brought it here not any of us.
Anyway, it's over and done, sorry if it brought any of you down.
Take care........................................God bless.....................................Bob
Than August should have posted on the pill board. He brought it here not us.
It was only said that he was missed, August posted his opinions here that we responded too. So, I suggest asking August if he wants to address us than to do so on the other board. Read the thread, he brought it here not any of us.
Anyway, it's over and done, sorry if it brought any of you down.
Take care........................................God bless.....................................Bob
depressed...
well i am soooo tremendously sorry that this little response from this little thread can cause you sooo much depression that you would want to go have yourself a 'toke' .... please acept my most heart felf ..most sincere appologies...
but might i suggest that if you are that fragile than dont read this thread least you dont distrupt your recovery....
I otherwise said my piece.... I didnt mean to upset the otherwise mellowness of the pot-heads here.... may I leave you all in the mellow haze of your drug of choice and with the hope that you may heal from the depths of depression that my illfated post pluged you to....
teresa
well i am soooo tremendously sorry that this little response from this little thread can cause you sooo much depression that you would want to go have yourself a 'toke' .... please acept my most heart felf ..most sincere appologies...
but might i suggest that if you are that fragile than dont read this thread least you dont distrupt your recovery....
I otherwise said my piece.... I didnt mean to upset the otherwise mellowness of the pot-heads here.... may I leave you all in the mellow haze of your drug of choice and with the hope that you may heal from the depths of depression that my illfated post pluged you to....
teresa
thanks. you seem so caring.
Oh yea, they care! They care which side you take. This isn't the first time this has happened and I'm sure it won't be the last. The mentality of "if your friends with her, well you can't be friends with me". And it's a group thing you see. Seems if you have a problem with someone it should be between that ONE person and you, but not here. You get into it with one person and the rest WILL jump on the bandwagon, guess they have nothing better to do...what a sorry excuse for AA/NAr's. August man, I feel for ya! Hang in there...
Disappointed
Disappointed
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First of all...
disappointed... if you had more than two brain cells to rub together.. and unless I miss my guess... you would have seen that depressed was being just as sarcastic and facetious as I .... ( you might want to get a dictionary for that one..) but at any rate.. once again how dare you question anyones motives or assess anyones commitment to AA/NA ... it is people like you with obvious limited capasitiy to see the big picture and who jumps in when not necessary that causes the most problems. this is not nor has it ever been a 'if you are friends with this one you can be friends with us' thing.... but your opinion is no different than others... opinions are like a** everyones got one..
it is this very kind of a post that you are talking about that keeps the stuff going... and none of us likes to be lumped in .... it is people like you that cause the most damage.. not us.
by the way do you go to AA/NA or do you just worship your own form of godlike recovovery creature on these boards....? just a retorical. question i guess....
teresa
disappointed... if you had more than two brain cells to rub together.. and unless I miss my guess... you would have seen that depressed was being just as sarcastic and facetious as I .... ( you might want to get a dictionary for that one..) but at any rate.. once again how dare you question anyones motives or assess anyones commitment to AA/NA ... it is people like you with obvious limited capasitiy to see the big picture and who jumps in when not necessary that causes the most problems. this is not nor has it ever been a 'if you are friends with this one you can be friends with us' thing.... but your opinion is no different than others... opinions are like a** everyones got one..
it is this very kind of a post that you are talking about that keeps the stuff going... and none of us likes to be lumped in .... it is people like you that cause the most damage.. not us.
by the way do you go to AA/NA or do you just worship your own form of godlike recovovery creature on these boards....? just a retorical. question i guess....
teresa
thank goodness they don't give her anything sharper than crayons to play with!!
depressed...
lol..... your sense of humor is much appreciated..
lol..... your sense of humor is much appreciated..
thanks :)
how about a truce?
how about a truce?
I'm going to be dead straight with you all here..
I'm thankful to August for his past posts to me, he's never given me cause for offense. For that reason Teresa's post got my back up, I didn't want to read that kind of stuff on a board I'd felt to be genuinely supportive and friendly. My instant reaction was "oh just go away and leave us here alone".
However the reality is I've truely enjoyed today's banter. My motivation for continuing to post was nothing to do with August.
Truth is I haven't lived without dope in my system for well over a decade and have never learned to deal with the minx in me without it.
Hope I've caused no-one any lasting offense.
Teresa... Bob... you're welcome to abuse me any time you want.
Thanks for opening my eyes a little xx.
I'm thankful to August for his past posts to me, he's never given me cause for offense. For that reason Teresa's post got my back up, I didn't want to read that kind of stuff on a board I'd felt to be genuinely supportive and friendly. My instant reaction was "oh just go away and leave us here alone".
However the reality is I've truely enjoyed today's banter. My motivation for continuing to post was nothing to do with August.
Truth is I haven't lived without dope in my system for well over a decade and have never learned to deal with the minx in me without it.
Hope I've caused no-one any lasting offense.
Teresa... Bob... you're welcome to abuse me any time you want.
Thanks for opening my eyes a little xx.
while I am confused to some degree with your last post... I meant you no ill and have only wished to clarify myself and the reasons for this latest 'drama'...
We as recovering addicts are capable of many true, real emotions like frustration. hurt, fear, joy, and yes a good sense of humor... we for the most part enjoy a good debate and for the most part do not have to resort to character assasinations...
I hope you find what you are seeking, dear depressed..we all deserve to be happy and fullfilled. if that be recovery then so be it.. there will be many here to help... august being one of the many... if it just to be a place in the large world to call your own .. well I hope you find that too...
I see no reason that we can not call a truce.. I wish you well in your search.. and if you wish for recovery I hope you find it...
God Bless
Teresa
We as recovering addicts are capable of many true, real emotions like frustration. hurt, fear, joy, and yes a good sense of humor... we for the most part enjoy a good debate and for the most part do not have to resort to character assasinations...
I hope you find what you are seeking, dear depressed..we all deserve to be happy and fullfilled. if that be recovery then so be it.. there will be many here to help... august being one of the many... if it just to be a place in the large world to call your own .. well I hope you find that too...
I see no reason that we can not call a truce.. I wish you well in your search.. and if you wish for recovery I hope you find it...
God Bless
Teresa
Thanks Teresa, much appreciated. I'm not surprised you're confused, i've been confusing myself a lot lately.
I've never before had to deal with a sober mind as an adult and it's amazing how unpredictable it can be. It probably doesn't help that I came off antidepressants less than a week ago.
Apologies all, I have hijacked this thread enough.. I think I shall just try to withdraw with what little grace I can and go watch tele in bed for a while ;)
I've never before had to deal with a sober mind as an adult and it's amazing how unpredictable it can be. It probably doesn't help that I came off antidepressants less than a week ago.
Apologies all, I have hijacked this thread enough.. I think I shall just try to withdraw with what little grace I can and go watch tele in bed for a while ;)
To all of the folks who are this board for a legitimate reason:
I apologize for this little Passion Play that has been unfolding during the past few days. It appears that unbeknownst to me, I was in some kind of long term committed relationship with some folks on the pain pill board. I got mad, decided to take my ball and play elsewhere. Apparently, they feel betrayed and a more than a little bit angry. It seems that breaking up is hard to do.
This is probably going to continue for a little while longer. It is the nature of addicts to hold onto things much longer than they should. For those of you who wonder if long term drug use has ill effects, the events of the past few days should be all the evidence that you need.
Lets just ignore these folks, whaddaya say? Honestly, I left that board to escape this kind of nonsense. I consider it a waste of my time to have to wade through this stuff.
Sooner or later, probably later, they will give up and go away.
August
I apologize for this little Passion Play that has been unfolding during the past few days. It appears that unbeknownst to me, I was in some kind of long term committed relationship with some folks on the pain pill board. I got mad, decided to take my ball and play elsewhere. Apparently, they feel betrayed and a more than a little bit angry. It seems that breaking up is hard to do.
This is probably going to continue for a little while longer. It is the nature of addicts to hold onto things much longer than they should. For those of you who wonder if long term drug use has ill effects, the events of the past few days should be all the evidence that you need.
Lets just ignore these folks, whaddaya say? Honestly, I left that board to escape this kind of nonsense. I consider it a waste of my time to have to wade through this stuff.
Sooner or later, probably later, they will give up and go away.
August
well thank goodness we wont waste your time any longer,...
are their words to "Hail to the Chief"... sorry just couldnt resist... lol....
oh no .. I cant find my ball.... or my trucks...
teresa...
depressed..
just one word.. you dont need to isolate... take your sober mind out for a spin ... forget who gets confused... wipe the dust off and clear the cob webs out... youll be amazed at what you find.... good luck...
are their words to "Hail to the Chief"... sorry just couldnt resist... lol....
oh no .. I cant find my ball.... or my trucks...
teresa...
depressed..
just one word.. you dont need to isolate... take your sober mind out for a spin ... forget who gets confused... wipe the dust off and clear the cob webs out... youll be amazed at what you find.... good luck...
hi august- it was great to see your post; i'm so glad and agree with you 100% !
soon on another thread :)
peace-
jane
soon on another thread :)
peace-
jane
