Share your stories here. What happened, how did these 12 step programs do more damage than help??
Let's talk.........
They saved my life.
AA Attendence is Voluntary.
Except for those with DUI's, and I don't feel sorry for such people who would endanger other peoples lives like that.
Cailyn
Except for those with DUI's, and I don't feel sorry for such people who would endanger other peoples lives like that.
Cailyn
Well, let's see. The monerators removed this thread once but it didn't give you any hints, huh?
I'll repost close to what I said before...
My worst experience with AA was that I quit drinking. First they stuck with me while I went thru withdrawals, then they taught me that God will take care of me. Then there were the horrors of learning responsibilty and being an adult. It was terrible when they told me I had to follow a few simple rules to stay sober, the first of which is don't take the first drink and you won't get drunk. Let's not forget the terrors of having friends I can depend on no matter what, even if I should ever pick up a drink again. AA has been torturing me with 5 years of sobriety. I think I'll keep going back to see what tortures they can come up with next.
I'll repost close to what I said before...
My worst experience with AA was that I quit drinking. First they stuck with me while I went thru withdrawals, then they taught me that God will take care of me. Then there were the horrors of learning responsibilty and being an adult. It was terrible when they told me I had to follow a few simple rules to stay sober, the first of which is don't take the first drink and you won't get drunk. Let's not forget the terrors of having friends I can depend on no matter what, even if I should ever pick up a drink again. AA has been torturing me with 5 years of sobriety. I think I'll keep going back to see what tortures they can come up with next.
Kat,
I am confused. Why would the mod's remove this post?
Kisso,
Did you have a bad experince with AA that you would like to share? I do not understand why you started this thread if you didn't have a story of your own behind it?
Rae
I am confused. Why would the mod's remove this post?
Kisso,
Did you have a bad experince with AA that you would like to share? I do not understand why you started this thread if you didn't have a story of your own behind it?
Rae
Rae
I don't know what he posted after I did but it must have been a lulu. If you read the locked threads you will see that he's been trolling for a couple of days. I haven't looked to see if they removed his posts from the closed threads but you'll get the drift of it. He was Rizzo yesterday. Or she. I wonder why I assume it's a he.
I don't know what he posted after I did but it must have been a lulu. If you read the locked threads you will see that he's been trolling for a couple of days. I haven't looked to see if they removed his posts from the closed threads but you'll get the drift of it. He was Rizzo yesterday. Or she. I wonder why I assume it's a he.
Gotcha!! Thanks!!
Rae
Rae
Can't say anything against AA, it has saved my life, my sister's life and many, many friends of mine...I'm gonna continue with what's working for me and that is practicing the 12 Step Recovery Program in all my affairs. Hey, but if it hasn't work for you so be it...do what works for you in achieving sobriety and living a serene, peaceful and content life...I am no longer living in fear, agitation, anxiety or worry...life is not always easy but it is way better than I ever could have imagined it to be! Sometimes I just am amazed that I have been sober and clean for almost 2.5 years and that I do not obsess or crave drugs or alcohol any longer....truly amazing...miracle!
Went to many meetings. I did everything suggested, sponsor, 2 meetings a day, home group and on and on. If I said something at a meeting that they didn't like, they jumped all over me like a pack of wolves.
My sponsor started having an affair with my wife, my home group was full of losers who lied about there drinking and did drugs on the side. Everyone kept falling off of the wheel or lied about it.
I even started to get nasty phone calls and pranks when i did stop going. It really scared me to see what an bad organization it really is.
But, the people who followed Jim Jone's thought he was the way also.
Love...........
My sponsor started having an affair with my wife, my home group was full of losers who lied about there drinking and did drugs on the side. Everyone kept falling off of the wheel or lied about it.
I even started to get nasty phone calls and pranks when i did stop going. It really scared me to see what an bad organization it really is.
But, the people who followed Jim Jone's thought he was the way also.
Love...........
Wow, what a story...so glad to report my home group in a little beach town in SoCal isn't like that....not everyone is terrific, but I have learned patience, tolerance and love by being an active member of AA...sorry your experience was so bad, but stuff like that happens in various organizations not just 12 step programs. Hope you are staying sober and doing well. Have a nice Friday evening!
Hi Alan: I too had a very bad experience with AA. Do a search in "Google" and type in "AA is it a Cult" and you will find tons of eye opening information that you never knew about the.
Take care
Take care
Gee, does anybody else think that Jacky and Alan and Rizzo and Kisso might be the same person? We might be ex drunks but we're not stupid.
Hey Jacky: Thanks for the tips: I never would have thought what I found when I did my search into AA as a cult. Really scarey stuff.
I guess you gotta do your homework first....
Hope you have found your way to quit the booze, and if so, maybe you could share that with me also.
Thanks
I guess you gotta do your homework first....
Hope you have found your way to quit the booze, and if so, maybe you could share that with me also.
Thanks
Hi 12 Stepper,
Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious Rizzo, Kisso, Alan and Jackie are all the same person. The experiences that "Alan" shares about AA are plain ridiculous. Not to say every AA group and every person in AA is great, but that stuff is so over the top it's absurd. Since Rizzo/Kisso hasn't been able to get the feedback he was hoping for, he just made up some stuff to post. I feel for this guy. (I'm assuming it's a guy, but maybe not) He's obviously just a miserable drunk looking for some company and trying to pick fights.
Chris
Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious Rizzo, Kisso, Alan and Jackie are all the same person. The experiences that "Alan" shares about AA are plain ridiculous. Not to say every AA group and every person in AA is great, but that stuff is so over the top it's absurd. Since Rizzo/Kisso hasn't been able to get the feedback he was hoping for, he just made up some stuff to post. I feel for this guy. (I'm assuming it's a guy, but maybe not) He's obviously just a miserable drunk looking for some company and trying to pick fights.
Chris
Good morning Chris
There's some guy that wrote the "Orange Papers" that is really displeased with his experience with AA. If you're in the program it's pretty funny. If you google it, it's good for a laugh. That's obviously where this guy got his stuff from. There and the bottom of a bottle.
There's some guy that wrote the "Orange Papers" that is really displeased with his experience with AA. If you're in the program it's pretty funny. If you google it, it's good for a laugh. That's obviously where this guy got his stuff from. There and the bottom of a bottle.
I even kept going to meetings after my sponsor took my wife from me. They told me to get over it, let go, keep going to meetings. So, I kept going, drinking that crap coffee, while these losers chain smoked and told me a bunch of lies. They told me there way is the only way. That was one of the worst things about that cult, it tells people that there is no other way and that you better stay with them or you are surely doomed to a miserable life.
Did some searching on my own, and found most people who quit and stayed quit, did it on there own. How many people do you think need help to quit smoking? The greatest majority of them do it on there own. They don't go to meetings everyday for the rest of there life!!!! Come on, give your head a shake.
It is what it is> A POOR EXCUSE OF A PROGRAM..........
Did some searching on my own, and found most people who quit and stayed quit, did it on there own. How many people do you think need help to quit smoking? The greatest majority of them do it on there own. They don't go to meetings everyday for the rest of there life!!!! Come on, give your head a shake.
It is what it is> A POOR EXCUSE OF A PROGRAM..........
But we love you anyway, Alan
I've been told, at least where I attend my AA meetings that it is not the only way to achieve sobriety, in fact, my Sponsor says that some people just use AA as a foundation to achieve sobriety and then go it alone. However, my Dad has been sober for almost 30 years and my Boyfriend for over 3 years. My Dad had a religious conversion and got sober, my Boyfriend goes to meetings a couple of times a month, but AA/NA were the springboard to him getting clean, oh and my ex-Husband got sober through rehab and meetings but no longer attends. Personally, I just like the experience, hope and strength I find at meetings. I wouldn't want to be dry, like the guys I mentioned here in my Post. I am just given suggestions on how to live a peaceful, happy existence no matter what situation arises. But again, I know AA is not the only way. However, it is for me. I am a professional woman who has held the same job in the Aerospace industry for 22 years...been a homeowner, Girl Scout Leader, in the PTA, etc, etc and I attend meetings still after a little over two years. I've not drank the coffee at the mtgs (I prefer Starbucks -smile-), do not smoke and do not consider myself a Loser. Like, I've said before whatever is working for you to stay sober and lead a productive, happy life, well stick to it...what works for some doesn't work for others.
Thanks VWGirl: Sounds like your experience has been positive. Maybe I need to go to different meetings. I've only been to the same one group and the people there are mean and offensive.
Yes, I am glad I've found the meetings that work for me. It took going to some that I didn't care for to find what I did want though...here in Los Angeles we have a ton of meetings to choose from...good luck in your journey. You may want to just take what want from a meeting and leave the rest. I try to take the HOW approach...honesty, open-mindedness and willingness. Have a terrific weekend.
