Hi guys, just wanted to check in. You are all so wonderful, thanks for your support. I really need to hear this from you all.
Quick update:
I am miserable, I just took a couple of pain pills because I was getting a stomach ache from tylenol. I have called my doctor early this morning and he still hasn't called me back. II am bewildered and irritated by this, should I be? I have an appointment on Friday morning that I will make. I have called my sponsor and one other friend from the program. I have my head screwed on tight and right. Everything is falling apart but I stand firm in my recovery.
I have decided this. This was a blessing in disguise. I will not continue on the pain pills past what is needed. I am guessing tomorrow and maybe 2 days after that, 3 at the most.
The orthopedic surgeon flies in on Thursdays, lucky me. I will be at the clinic at 8:15 to get my ankle set and casted. After that depending on how I feel I am not at all sure I am going to continue on with the sub. If I feel really bad maybe the tiniest bit I will take.
The pills have helped with the direct pain however because of the suboxone in my system I haven't had the slightest high...that's a blessing.
I am exhausted and hurting and have been crying alot (man am I a baby) Kearra has been an angel...on and off...she was so worried and scared poor thing. My husband is helpful he took this afternoon off work and is making diner for him and Kearra.
I really need you guys right now. I am leaning on you here as well as the strength that my friends in the program.
I have a feeling I will be off the sub sooner rather than later. This is an opportunity for me.
I hope to check in again soon. Thanks for keeping me in your thoughts and prayers.
One more thing. What this has taught me as a pain pill addict, one must must must have a plan for when something like this happens. I have been reeling since yesterday. The first thing that entered my mind at the very moment I saw my foot in a position that no foot should ever be in was.....OMG what am I going to do now?
Please don't let this happen to you. Have a plan ok, if you don't already.
Much love xoxoxoxox
kee kee
sweetheart , you poor thing, i wish i was there to wait on you and baby you. i havebroken bones before and honey when they broke the bones in my feet to repair a bunion omg! talk about pain! they even scraped on the bone too, i know
exactly what you are feeling right now and you are doing the right thing by not suffering, advil or tylenol isnt going to touch it.'
what bone did you break? ankle or foot??? did you trip?
a few questions if you dont mind, i thought i had read if you take a narcotic when you havent been off sub for 24 hours that it can throw you into withdrawals???
i saw an ortho dr today and if i have the carpal tunnel surgery i would be off 4 to 6 weeks, i too was honest and told him i was a recovering addict, he said that post operative pain would require maybe
2 days of pain pills. he has sent me to a hand specialist for a second opinion.
what do you mean kerri by having a plan??? hope you feel better soon, love jewels
sweetheart , you poor thing, i wish i was there to wait on you and baby you. i havebroken bones before and honey when they broke the bones in my feet to repair a bunion omg! talk about pain! they even scraped on the bone too, i know
exactly what you are feeling right now and you are doing the right thing by not suffering, advil or tylenol isnt going to touch it.'
what bone did you break? ankle or foot??? did you trip?
a few questions if you dont mind, i thought i had read if you take a narcotic when you havent been off sub for 24 hours that it can throw you into withdrawals???
i saw an ortho dr today and if i have the carpal tunnel surgery i would be off 4 to 6 weeks, i too was honest and told him i was a recovering addict, he said that post operative pain would require maybe
2 days of pain pills. he has sent me to a hand specialist for a second opinion.
what do you mean kerri by having a plan??? hope you feel better soon, love jewels
KeeKee so sorry~~~ YGM ~~~ Talk to you in a while.
Keekee:
Hold everything! Lisa, you're not a doctor? I thought you were!!!!!!! Anyway Keekee, I gotta say it again, props to you. You're totallyt doing the next right thing. Your head seems to be in a really good place, and you're really motivated. Lots of people might use this as an excuse to use - but you're not even going there. Lisa's right though, don't be a hero. I'd call that sub doctor back. I wish I knew more about sub. Educate me if you have a chance. Having a plan is an excellent idea - unfortunatly, these things sometimes happen to people who are trying to quit. Keep doing the next right thing and I thik you'll be o.k. I hope your doctor calls you soon.
Hold everything! Lisa, you're not a doctor? I thought you were!!!!!!! Anyway Keekee, I gotta say it again, props to you. You're totallyt doing the next right thing. Your head seems to be in a really good place, and you're really motivated. Lots of people might use this as an excuse to use - but you're not even going there. Lisa's right though, don't be a hero. I'd call that sub doctor back. I wish I knew more about sub. Educate me if you have a chance. Having a plan is an excellent idea - unfortunatly, these things sometimes happen to people who are trying to quit. Keep doing the next right thing and I thik you'll be o.k. I hope your doctor calls you soon.
Danny for me the Sub worked for pain as I had a surgery on my throat. And my sub doctor said it was my choice but I was on like 2mg of sub and was like no way am i going through another 6=months--anyway we bumped it up and I came down off it within a shorter time.
I tried using Sub for my flairs but I built up a tolerance to the sub.
For Kee Kee it probably would help with her pain . I have no idea how many mg she was put on or is on now.
I just hope she has a good sub doctor.
Jeff
I tried using Sub for my flairs but I built up a tolerance to the sub.
For Kee Kee it probably would help with her pain . I have no idea how many mg she was put on or is on now.
I just hope she has a good sub doctor.
Jeff
Kee Kee....all I can say is ARRRRGH!!!! What a tough break(no pun intended). I am SO sorry....you have to heal your broken bone right now,,,,so look at this as a temporary roadblock. I would be really upset too....having just weaned down the sub.....CR*P!!!!!!!! You will get thru this and continue on with your recovery. All is not lost. Perhaps Gina (soccermom) can help me out with this one...in Chinese....the word for crisis has 2 characters...1 is danger the other is oppportunity The point is something bad and something good comes out of it. Take care sweet.....Love, S
Kee Kee,
I really feel bad for you to be in this position. I don't, however, see how it has to affect your taper. From my relapse experience a month and a half ago, I went right from the sub to taking 20 -30 Norco 10/325's and right back to the sub at the same dose I was on (16mg) the next day. I am not a doctor, of course, but I think you might be worrying for nothing. And I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, I am trying to reasure you that it probabbly won't be a big deal to take the pills they gave you for the next couple of days as needed, and then get right back to the suboxone dose you were at. So long as you don't go on some 2 week or 2 month bender, I am willing to bet you will be just fine!!!
Hope you are feeling better.
peaceout
dtroitj
I really feel bad for you to be in this position. I don't, however, see how it has to affect your taper. From my relapse experience a month and a half ago, I went right from the sub to taking 20 -30 Norco 10/325's and right back to the sub at the same dose I was on (16mg) the next day. I am not a doctor, of course, but I think you might be worrying for nothing. And I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, I am trying to reasure you that it probabbly won't be a big deal to take the pills they gave you for the next couple of days as needed, and then get right back to the suboxone dose you were at. So long as you don't go on some 2 week or 2 month bender, I am willing to bet you will be just fine!!!
Hope you are feeling better.
peaceout
dtroitj
I only have a second but wanted to post. Thanks to all for posting to me.
Jewls, I was terrified what was going to happen to me "precipitated withdrawals", honestly I wasn't expecting that nurse to come at me with a pain shot. It happened so quickly and hurt so bad. There were so many people packed into this little room, three groups to be exact. Everyone was shocked as was I. I thought my husband might punch that guy in the nose. Only because I yelped and cried. My grandaughter was in there as well.
I specifically told them that I was a recovering pain pill addict and currently on suboxone. Nothing happened though, luckily for them...I suppose it took the edge off the pain. However I have had demerol before and I didn't get the "high" feeling you get. I am grateful for that.
The pills are working a little...at best they allow me precious sleep. No high whatsoever, what a godsend.
What I mean by a plan is this. If you are a recovering addict there is a chance that you might get hurt unexpectedly....what will you do regarding that. Thats all...don't be surprised and shocked and scared like me.
No word from my doctor...the receptionist did not get the gist of what I was telling her. I should call his cell phone but I have been doing that alot lately.
I have an appointment tomorrow and will make it. My gut is telling me that this is the way out and off all drugs. I am not having any of those familiar feelings so this is good.
I am leaving now to get a permanent cast. I am in so much pain that I am nauseous. Wish me luck...I need all your prayers!
Kerri
Jewls, I was terrified what was going to happen to me "precipitated withdrawals", honestly I wasn't expecting that nurse to come at me with a pain shot. It happened so quickly and hurt so bad. There were so many people packed into this little room, three groups to be exact. Everyone was shocked as was I. I thought my husband might punch that guy in the nose. Only because I yelped and cried. My grandaughter was in there as well.
I specifically told them that I was a recovering pain pill addict and currently on suboxone. Nothing happened though, luckily for them...I suppose it took the edge off the pain. However I have had demerol before and I didn't get the "high" feeling you get. I am grateful for that.
The pills are working a little...at best they allow me precious sleep. No high whatsoever, what a godsend.
What I mean by a plan is this. If you are a recovering addict there is a chance that you might get hurt unexpectedly....what will you do regarding that. Thats all...don't be surprised and shocked and scared like me.
No word from my doctor...the receptionist did not get the gist of what I was telling her. I should call his cell phone but I have been doing that alot lately.
I have an appointment tomorrow and will make it. My gut is telling me that this is the way out and off all drugs. I am not having any of those familiar feelings so this is good.
I am leaving now to get a permanent cast. I am in so much pain that I am nauseous. Wish me luck...I need all your prayers!
Kerri
Good luck Kee Kee!!!
You sound like you have got your head on right and are takingit great.
I know you have another thread about it, but I am just going to post it here because I am sure you are going to come back here.............
Your suboxone taper has helped and motivated me tremendously! I have been cutting back my suboxone greatly since you started posting about your taper last weekend.
Thank you.
I am right there with you about getting off of this stuff now. I think it was one of the big reasons I have been feeling so down lately.
peacout
dtroitj
You sound like you have got your head on right and are takingit great.
I know you have another thread about it, but I am just going to post it here because I am sure you are going to come back here.............
Your suboxone taper has helped and motivated me tremendously! I have been cutting back my suboxone greatly since you started posting about your taper last weekend.
Thank you.
I am right there with you about getting off of this stuff now. I think it was one of the big reasons I have been feeling so down lately.
peacout
dtroitj
Kee- How long will the cast be on?
Sorry to hear you've been in so much pain, KeeKee.
I've had several broken bones and my experience is that after about three days it doesn't hurt much anymore. Or at least nothing I found unbearable in any way.
Oh boy, but don't you just know when you break a bone? I instantly get sick. That initial pain is just indescribable. I couldn't even speak for several minutes.
I really feel for you, I know just how unpleasant this is.
Maybe the pain pills will help you just slide right off of sub, wouldn't that be cool?
I don't have any experience with sub at all but if the Dr. said it was okay that would be so nice for you.
I hope you're feeling better really soon.
You've jumped out of planes?! Awesome! When you're feeling better I hope you'll tell me what that was like.
xxxxxooooo
I've had several broken bones and my experience is that after about three days it doesn't hurt much anymore. Or at least nothing I found unbearable in any way.
Oh boy, but don't you just know when you break a bone? I instantly get sick. That initial pain is just indescribable. I couldn't even speak for several minutes.
I really feel for you, I know just how unpleasant this is.
Maybe the pain pills will help you just slide right off of sub, wouldn't that be cool?
I don't have any experience with sub at all but if the Dr. said it was okay that would be so nice for you.
I hope you're feeling better really soon.
You've jumped out of planes?! Awesome! When you're feeling better I hope you'll tell me what that was like.
xxxxxooooo
Kerri, Hope you are feeling better today and got some rest last night. Check in with us and let us know how things went yesterday. Take Care, Shantel
Kerri,
Did you get the cast put on? Let us know what the sub doctor says today.
Love,
Gina
Did you get the cast put on? Let us know what the sub doctor says today.
Love,
Gina
KeeKee
I'm so sorry. The only bone I ever broke was my nose (standing on the pitchers mound and took a line drive strait to the face). I hope you feel better soon, and if it makes you feel any better I gimp around all the time on bum feet. We can gimp together. LOL
You know, I was a complete hydro freak, and for some reason I never got high off of Darvoset. I don't know, maybe ask if they can give you a different type of opiate, that wasn't your DOC? Either way, you need something for the pain, and the inflammation. A swollen foot inside a cast can be a very bad thing. Hang in there, it will be over soon.
Michelle
I'm so sorry. The only bone I ever broke was my nose (standing on the pitchers mound and took a line drive strait to the face). I hope you feel better soon, and if it makes you feel any better I gimp around all the time on bum feet. We can gimp together. LOL
You know, I was a complete hydro freak, and for some reason I never got high off of Darvoset. I don't know, maybe ask if they can give you a different type of opiate, that wasn't your DOC? Either way, you need something for the pain, and the inflammation. A swollen foot inside a cast can be a very bad thing. Hang in there, it will be over soon.
Michelle
How are you today Kerry? Did the dr set your bone and cast it? How's your pain now that you have the cast on? I'm thinking about you....
And for the record? Iola, never said I was a dr, never even implied it so I'm not sure what your remark was suppose to mean?
And for the record? Iola, never said I was a dr, never even implied it so I'm not sure what your remark was suppose to mean?
Morning everyone!
Thanks to all of my homies that have sent me emails and expressing your kind thoughts! You know who you are!! wink, wink! I hope to back to all of you soon!
The cast is on and the bones are set! Yeouch! The orthopedic surgeon thinks that it should be ok and will set okay...if I stay completely off of it for the next 2 weeks! I will be re x-rayed then and hopefully all will be ok...no surgery1
I cancelled my appointment with my sub doctor this morning, mostly because I just can't get around and whats the point. I have to be on pain meds for at least the next 3 or 4 days. I am really pissed that he didn't call me back anyway.
I have the support of my sponsor and my friends and the fellowship of AA that is keeping me grounded and accountable.
My Plan: I will use my meds only as I need them, I might add that I have vicodin which is NOT my DOC and does not effect me the way the percs did...maybe because of the sub still lingering...in any case I am going to try to slide to right off the pain meds and leave the sub alone!
If I do feel some discomfort I am going to ride it out! Unless its unbearable....how can it be worse than what I am going through now? I will ride it out!
I thank you for your support! Please pray for me and as always...you are all in my thoughts and prayers!
Thanks to all of my homies that have sent me emails and expressing your kind thoughts! You know who you are!! wink, wink! I hope to back to all of you soon!
The cast is on and the bones are set! Yeouch! The orthopedic surgeon thinks that it should be ok and will set okay...if I stay completely off of it for the next 2 weeks! I will be re x-rayed then and hopefully all will be ok...no surgery1
I cancelled my appointment with my sub doctor this morning, mostly because I just can't get around and whats the point. I have to be on pain meds for at least the next 3 or 4 days. I am really pissed that he didn't call me back anyway.
I have the support of my sponsor and my friends and the fellowship of AA that is keeping me grounded and accountable.
My Plan: I will use my meds only as I need them, I might add that I have vicodin which is NOT my DOC and does not effect me the way the percs did...maybe because of the sub still lingering...in any case I am going to try to slide to right off the pain meds and leave the sub alone!
If I do feel some discomfort I am going to ride it out! Unless its unbearable....how can it be worse than what I am going through now? I will ride it out!
I thank you for your support! Please pray for me and as always...you are all in my thoughts and prayers!
dear kee kee ~
i'm so sorry to read this. i broke my ankle and sustained a sprain to the other one when i was one year into recovery. as memory serves me, i only required prescription pain meds for a couple of days post injury and then switched over to the NSAID's. i found that the pain never did dull until the swelling started to go down. like you, i was restricted to bed rest for a few weeks and when i was able to get up, i had to use a walker! with both ankles out of commission, i was unable to bear much weight on either of them.
when we are injured, such as you have been, i don't think anyone asks us to be a martyr when it comes to dealing with pain. however, that's a fine line for those of us who have known where the disease of addiction will take us. i found that beefing up my contact with my sponsor, my therapist, and those had my welfare at best interest, was a tremendous in dealing with the pain.
ice, elevation, and the telephone became my best friends during that bump in the road. let's hope you will be feeling better soon, dear kee kee. i'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers.
love ~
sammy
i'm so sorry to read this. i broke my ankle and sustained a sprain to the other one when i was one year into recovery. as memory serves me, i only required prescription pain meds for a couple of days post injury and then switched over to the NSAID's. i found that the pain never did dull until the swelling started to go down. like you, i was restricted to bed rest for a few weeks and when i was able to get up, i had to use a walker! with both ankles out of commission, i was unable to bear much weight on either of them.
when we are injured, such as you have been, i don't think anyone asks us to be a martyr when it comes to dealing with pain. however, that's a fine line for those of us who have known where the disease of addiction will take us. i found that beefing up my contact with my sponsor, my therapist, and those had my welfare at best interest, was a tremendous in dealing with the pain.
ice, elevation, and the telephone became my best friends during that bump in the road. let's hope you will be feeling better soon, dear kee kee. i'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers.
love ~
sammy
Kee Kee do you have sub left over? How much were you on before the break?
How long have you been on Sub? And how have you been weaning.
Hope your feeling better--Jeff
How long have you been on Sub? And how have you been weaning.
Hope your feeling better--Jeff
Thank you Sammy...your kind words are needed and heeded! You are right its not easy to stay put but the pain makes it easier. I truly am thankful for your prayers I need them right now. Mostly because I am feeling a little sorry for myself and that is so not me!
Jeff I have about 15 8mg pills left over and I think that will be all I need to taper completely but then again I could be dead wrong. I am going to play it by chance. I will give it a while longer until I feel the pain pills have done there job and just stop.
If I am not going to feel sick (withdrawal) after a few days, hours whatever then I guess that is a good sign. Maybe I will...maybe I won't. I am going to listen to my body and follow those signals. I will see my addiction doctor next week when I am feeling better either way to let him know what I am doing!
Hope you are all having a good night!
Take care...Kerri
Jeff I have about 15 8mg pills left over and I think that will be all I need to taper completely but then again I could be dead wrong. I am going to play it by chance. I will give it a while longer until I feel the pain pills have done there job and just stop.
If I am not going to feel sick (withdrawal) after a few days, hours whatever then I guess that is a good sign. Maybe I will...maybe I won't. I am going to listen to my body and follow those signals. I will see my addiction doctor next week when I am feeling better either way to let him know what I am doing!
Hope you are all having a good night!
Take care...Kerri
Kerri, Just checking in with you to see how you are feeling. Let us know when you get a chance. Shantel
