Can Oxys' Lead To Heroin

Heroin
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my dad is recovering after 16 years!!!!! he atrted againand has been clean since june 1 (maybe) he never wentto IOP,and i finally founf out that he was doing oxy's,and after tht lasttime he went righto heroin. he said it would never hapen again, buti dont know. my parents are divorced and she just said your daid is 53 had a minor HA from over use and that woke him up inrehab, noe he just wants to go to sleep and remeron isnt good enough. im so afraid he will go right back to heroin


scared daughter

nicole
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Dear Nikki,

Oxycontin (synthetic heroin) lead my son to heroin because it was easier and cheaper for him to get. From what I'm told, they are basically the same thing but I'm no expert.

From my experience with my son there is basically nothing you can do but not enable him, pray for him, and try to move on with your own life because he isn't going to stop until he's ready.

You will be in my prayers. Bless your heart. I'm sorry you're having to deal with this.

Love,
Susan
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They will throw their family in a ditch and forget they ever existed for the stuff. And yes, oxycontin is the same as heroin, just a different form.
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Nikki,

I think you answered your own question, "Can oxy's lead to heroin?" You said your dad went to heroin last time he was doing oxys. So obviously it can happen. I really urge you to stop trying to help your dad so much and work on yourself. I know you love your son and you don't want him to go through what you are going through when he is your age. Best of luck.

Shelly
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For me oxy always made me puke heroin only did when I went a lil nuts on it. Taking oxy by mouth is NOT the same high as heroin mainline. Oxy shot up is kinda close to the heroin high just not as much of a rush. They do have a few of the same effects, itching, nodding, pain killing. Yes from everything I know OFTEN people go to heroin when they started oxy because oxy is very costly. Heroin feels better and COST a lot less. Oxy helps bring you out of a heroin withdraw. I have switched between the two. Oxy never did 4 what heroin did. I'm now 13 months sober. I've seen people on both who have lost everything. When in active addiction my family ment nothing to me "the drug dose that". Dope is your lover your mother your children exc. A addict can only HELP themself. You can't wish or will someone to stop. They have to WANT to get out.
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hey mite.....

i just wanted you to know i was in the middle of a conversation with you on the pain pill site and poof......you just went away.......*smile*

anyway.....i liked talking to you.....i hope you will come back over there and talk with me some more sometimes....

sarah
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are u guys serious????? i never knew that! so know im basically cocnvinced that he will do it, or is doing it. after being clean since june 1. im so dissapointed, he lied and evrything. i told him i cant help him anymore, no more trying to bring him to detox/rehab!!!!! my mom is like "detach" he is dying of a slow dealth, and we thought the heart attck was major wake up call???? BUT is it possible to use oxy's w/out going to heroin even though u had a past????? arecentpast



please someone answer that

thank you
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Oxy is just as bad so what is the difference. You are really starting to sound desparate. Understand 1 thing. You can only take care of you (and I believe you have a child). You can't stop your dad from using. You need to pull yourself together for you and your child. He will either stop or he won't.
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I AM DESPERATE...AND FOR WHAT? TO HELP SOMEONE AGIN WHO ISNT GOING TO STICK WITH IT???? ALLS HE THINKS IS " I HAVE A DISEASE" SO THATS MAKES IT OKAY? I DONT GET HIM. ME AND HIM BOTH HAVE THE ADDCITDIVE PERSONALITY, SO HE CANRELATE TO ME, BUT I DOT KNOW IF HEW LYING ABOUT JUST USING IT TO SLEEP???? HE SAISD HE DOESNT URN FOR HEROIN, BIT I KNOW NOT BELIEVE HIM. I AM HIS LITTLE GIRL, AND IF HE DIES, I DIE!!!!!! I DO HAVE A 7 YEAR OLD WHO ADORES THE HELL OUT OF HIIM AND LIKEWISE. HEKNOWS HE ISLOSING OUT. HE JUST ISNT THE DAD I SED TO KNOW.......

IM FALLING INTO THIS DEEP DEPRESSION, B/C I CARE SO MUCH FOR HIM. SO HE SAID HE WILL SIGN UP FOR iop 5 DAYS A WEEK FOR 7 HOURS A DAY, INSTAEAD OF 2 DAYS A WEEK. THAST IF HE IS TELLING THE TRUTH!!!


NIKKI
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My daughter is an Oxy addict. I know what you are going through. You have to take care of you. You can't fix him. I know longer try to fix my daughter. You know he isn't using them to sleep. You know he isn't telling the truth. You are getting stressed about that which you can't change. You know what he is doing. This isn't healthy for you or your son. Do you want him to grow up just like this? Kids pick up on all of this they aren't stupid. They are very aware of things. They may not know exactly what is going on but they do know. Get help for yourself.
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HURTDAD,
THANKS FOR THE INPUT. I SEE A PYSCH AND A THERPAIST. SO DO GET HELP, BUT IM STILL DEPRESSES. IM HIS "LITTLE GIRL", I JUST HUNG UP WITH IM, ANDI SAID" DID YOU KNOW OXYS ARE LACED WITH HEROIN?" HE SAID YEAH OF COURSE. BUT ACCORDING TO HIM HE IS GETTING HELP STARTINBG MONDAY......I DONTKNOW. WHEN I TALK TO HIM I TRY AND AVOIND THE TOPIC, IM WAY TO SENSTIVE AND I DONT WANT HIM TO LOSE HIS ONLY GRANDCHILD

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I HAVE A DISEASE is true for your Dad. That dose not MEAN that it is un-treatable. That dose not make it all okay. I know your hurting. You can't SAVE him from himself. You don't want to hear it: in ACTIVE addiction to heroin / oxy family is barley an after thought. It changes how you feel about things people. Your emotions are detached. Getting "CLEAN HURTS" at 1st you feel things you don't wanna feel. You get VERY VERY depressed. It's easier to just go back, then to face how screwed up you are. Addicts are WONDERFUL actors and liers it comes with the addiction. More people relasp then who stay totally clean. You can learn all you need about addiction. Everything is in your Dad's hands. Every junkie has a family. If love or family alone could keep a person clean there would be a lot less addicts around. Love him from a far. When he's clean be there. Addicts get clean faster when the hit the bottom and have NO WHERE/ NO ONE. I never stoped till I lost my kids became homeless owned a box of clothes. Don't baby an addict they feed on it like bee's to honey. A addict can't just take a oxy to sleep it will ALWAYS lead into a few a day 2 to sleep then full blown out of control.
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led me all the way to oz
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THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT AND INPUT,NOW IM REALLY SCARED
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spot on&to the point as usual zero.g.act sure weve both got a few ocscars knockin rnd.by the way its me of the shared spikes post.again as z.g said nikki its only till u hit s$$t street for real that u realise how far uve gonedown.nik good luck with your dad but dont smother him,its his play u know that.....davey