Cowgirl

Hi Firesign:

Do you really live in MiamI--You did not answer my question from last week or I did not see it.

Are you really a blonde hottie? LOL

How are you doing. I am buggin out. Spent a few hours at the pool.

Take care -Jeff
Thanks everyone for caring. I mean it. It shows you guiys like me. Seriosuly its a pool hall in town that seels coffe soda and my favorite bottled water. I had real fun and it was good to get out of the basement. Im down here right now and I hate it. I may do some more yardwork.

Im serious about my recovery and I thuink im doing well at this stage of the fight. The kiss was therapeutic lol

Red


I did not tell him or imply it was ok to drink, if it came across that way, sorry.

Brooke Read what you wrote


What I meant was, what is wrong with going out shooting pool, or to a poker tournement, to get his mind on other things??

He can't hibernate for a year. He knows what he can do and can't do.

I mean damn, he stopped at the 'kiss'.. that took 'guts' LOL for lack of a better word.

I would never tell anyone to drink if they had a problem. That is silly.

My husband is a recovered Alcoholic has not drank in 25 yrs. I know what Alcoholism is about.

They do serve sodas, coffee etc at the pool hall ya know. :)
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Pool Halls to my knoweledge all serve alcohol. I would not suggest on day 18 when sleep is an issue. He works and goes to school? Keep it simple. He has a tough demanding life. And his posts are filled with anxiety.

Sorry brooke not the way I would go but its not my recovery. Not to bring these issues up is doing red a disservice. You would want your husband on day 18 in a pool hall? There is a reason why they suggest no relationships for a year.

Brooke they serve coffe and water at titie bars as well. I have been an alcoholic for 30 yrs. I know what AA taught me and Red is not IMO doing the right thing based on his posts. End of story.

Brooke you have a right to your opinion. I strongly disagree with you and hope red slows down and deals with his sleep issue and work and school. That is a lot on someone's plate

Jeff

Take care--Jeff
Had a few seconds before hubby gets home to go to the nursing home..

I think the point here is that Jeff is absolutely correct but, BUT, he didn't go to a pool hall where there was alcohol, so good choice Red. Keep making those kinds of choices.

Getting out and having some fun is so important. Just because we're in recovery doesn't mean we're a glum lot. It's all about choices though. People, places and things.

Red..you're doing great buddy. Keep up the good work.
In all due respect Jeff, if you have been an alcoholic for 30 yrs, how the hell did you drink a glass of wine on a date awhile back and not relaspe? My understanding an alcoholic can't drink wine, or anything related. |I say can't ,,.. shouldn't I mean.

Please not trying to start a fight here, not even going there. Trying to understand.

I respect your opinion.

My husband would never even consider drinking wine, or anything. Not even a sip.

At day 18, if my husband went to bar or a company function, and drinks were served, he is a grown man, he could and can make his own decisions. His choice.

Reddog, to think at one time you used to post that no one ever talked to you..

Now look... YOU are the topic of a conversation. lol

We love you..
Well, well, poor Reddog, you already got into trouble on your first night out. Good for you for going out. You are a big boy and you know what you need to do. Throughout life, you will not be able to hide from drugs and alcohol even though you are an addict. However, you know what you need to do, don't use or drink, it is that simple, yah right...I wish.

Anywho, Jeff I am a recovering alcoholic and I have not had a drink in over 10 years and I never stopped being around booze, I just said NOPE, not for me, I'm done. Hell, they sell the crap in every corner store and Reddog has got to get out in the real world and have enough gumption in him to do the right thing for himself.

Also Jeff, not to start any crap here, but what in the Hell did you have a drink of wine for if you are and alcoholic. Damn dude, I thought you were smarter than that, don't let me down now. Also, wine and Sub doesn't mix well, that is a BIG FAT NO, NO.....Ah, you know all of this, so no more lecture from me, just cut the Reddog some slack, he has learned his lesson and I'm willing to bet ya that he won' t be picking up again or switching one addiction for another. This last little stint scared the chit out of him, for real. Be easy on him Jeff, he's doing the right thing and he's sharing with us. He could have kept his mouth shut and said nothing about what he did or didn't do or go last night, so I commend him for speaking out and not picking up. Keep up the good work Reddog and if you run into problems, come and talk them out with us, just don't pick up....
Thanks pam and Brook. I like you Jeff. But dude dont make me feel guilty to go to a pool hall and shoot pool and drink water. They dont have a liquor license. I did NOTHING wrong. Boy if people are going to vomit on me for trying to have some normacly then I will leave the forum. I am working soo dam hard and I have a right to have a little fun

Im going to Church tonight is that ok or they serve wine at communion so maybe i better not go

Im mad now i was attacked
Brooke; JMO anyone that wants to fool themselves about Alcohol --drugs its all the same $hit.

I am a binger always was during my coke and alcohol . I spent many years in therapy and AA to kick a coke/alcohol problem. After 2.5 yrs I started drinking again and took percs and barbituates for 8 + yrs and was very successsful and life was quite manageable.

But sooner or later the disease gets you. In 1999 i relapsed for another 5 yr run.

I am a believer for ME Personally a glass of wine will not do jack s h it.TO ME

But since may 7th I realized I am playing with fire and also due to my meds and health issues it was quite STUPID.

Brooke I had to take pain meds last feb I did not go crazy. Had to suffer for 4 days until I got back on suboxene. Iearned a lesson always have a 30 pill bottle of subox in stock ala my house.

I had 6-7 dates and had some wine nothing happened. Brooke were all different.

I realized I was doing things my way again. End of story..



Jeff
LMFAO Reddog, you ain't leaving this damn board so shut up with that crap.. You have too much to offer to leave now. You are a keeper so hang around and help some others out that come along, it'll make you proud.

I think Jeff just has an itch that needs scratching today, it'll be alright.

Go on to communion tonight but don't sip the wine...Guzzle it....NOT...
Red I am just telling you how I feel based on your posts these past 3 weeks.

I am happy for your 18 days. I stand by what I said.Its what was taught to me.

I also know it took me many years before I took suggestions and followed through with them.

Its your recovery and you do what you feel is best. i only wish you the best.

Good Luck--Jeff
red relax,
People just care and have different ways of showing it. Some have a kinder way with how they put things and others shoot from the hip. My dad for example being an "Oldtimer" in A.A. ( those guys don't play ) told me this after I told him I picked up.."What the F.. is wrong with you, theres no excuse for picking up, if you pick up ever again, if you take one more F..'in drug into that house and I find out, I'm done with you. Now get your dumb a s s to a meeting and get your s h i t together. The first time you get sober your forgiven for the mess you made, after that, picking up is a choice, a choice your aware of, picking up or doing whats right. It's that simple, under any and all conditions do not pick up"...He said a few other things but I think you get the point. Now some other people told me, "don't worry about it, pick yourself up and dust yourself off etc etc.." For me, thats why I hang with guys like my dad, I know they love me and will tell me what I need to hear, wether it pi$$es me off or not.
I think what Jeff was saying and I agree...People, Places, and Things..Especially in the beginning.

Take care..............Bob
Thanks Bob
|Ok I have one question. Jeff

You wrote|:
I had 6-7 dates Do you kiss and tell? Meaning ... did you 'do it'..

I am kidding, trying to lighten things up a bit..

I think I need to log off. lol
I am a believer for ME Personally a glass of wine will not do jack s h it.TO ME

|Isn't this the case with all of us|? |Rhetorical question.
Yea me too. Im going to 5pm mass then I have to help a friend take apart a 150 gallon fish tank. We have to drain the water and rocks. Its gonna suc. But tonight im gonna watch Scrooge. I love Christmas
reddog,
okay now i see the puke assocaition with posting...LOLOL


Red...pssst??????

YOU DID NOTHING WRONG......having been there myself, and having felt attacked I know it hits all the buttons and triggers. Stop. just take a breathe.

99.9% of people are telling you you did nothing wrong...and you didnt...so


let the one remark or statement that made you feel attacked, blow right off your shoulder...theres usually a very personal reason why someone attacks you and it is not about YOU...funny but true.
We all love you here

so keep on doing what your doing..

Your inspiring to me..

BIG HUGE ITS OKAY HUG,



Ali
Thanks alaicap I feel better. Im beathing and petting my cat. I feel better. I did have to change shirts, i sweated a bit. But im cool now. Actualy very cool. There are a lot of positiive things happening to me right now. Things I could have never dreamed being dirty and in a toxic relationship

I threw out all the cards today and bears. They are in the trash@!

Also Jeff, not to start any crap here, but what in the Hell did you have a drink of wine for if you are and alcoholic. Damn dude, I thought you were smarter than that, don't let me down now. Also, wine and Sub doesn't mix well, that is a BIG FAT NO, NO.....Ah, you know all of this, so no more lecture from me, just cut the Reddog some slack, he has learned his lesson and I'm willing to bet ya that he won' t be picking up again or switching one addiction for another. This last little stint scared the chit out of him, for real. Be easy on him Jeff, he's doing the right thing and he's sharing with us. He could have kept his mouth shut and said nothing about what he did or didn't do or go last night, so I commend him for speaking out and not picking up. Keep up the good work Reddog and if you run into problems, come and talk them out with us, just don't pick up....

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You know Pam do you just like to hear yourself talk? I addmitted this months ago. I made a mistake. No you always start CRAP. YOU LOVE to start crap.

I am an addict. I followed Red from Day ! he has spun this all around. I will say nothing anymore regarding red. But I hope you read what I said as it makes a lot of sense Red.

Pam You never have the balls to confront someone. Then you just jump on the wagon. Pam please do not mention me by name. I will do the same. Be civil.

For your edification sweetheart When I was dating and had these few drinks I was on 1mg .5 and 0 when I was dating. Then I had an emergency surgery almost died. You calling me Stupid. That i RESENT but coming from you I feel sorry for you Pam. I worked 8 months to get off suboxene and then almost died so Islipped glasses of wine? To me not a slip. But I went back to AA thanks to pushing from Lisa and got my a** kicked.

Amazing your first day back and its like JUMP. B.S Man I do not appreciate your comment Pam.

Brooke the other night you said something to me that was quite true. I let someone getthe best of me. Made it a point to thank you. That was sincere.
I appreciate when someone calls me on my s h it


Cut reddog slack I gave him my opinion. Never again Red as I am really tired of this B.S-- Talk to others who will tell you what you want to here.

All the best --Jeff





Red honey I just posted this on another thread..

We were all ...what I thought.... having an adult conversation on a topic, seriously dude, no attacks going on. Just simple conversation from my end.

It would be nice to keep a conversation going like this to get the different opinions, and do so in a mature manner without a fight. Well not a fight but you know what I mean.. Ya know like just damn good conversation between adults.