wow the goon squad? that is a new one and I really have to laugh. I have lurked for a while and as I watch the things unfold I am forever perplexed. I see what Bob was saying. As cg truthfully reminds, he was not quoting the big book or any book for that matter and never coined the phrase tough love. But letting one poo poo themselves is ok I guess. NOT!!!!! As for the AAers, well the newcomers here as Ebby points out that have sponsers to pick up the slack and do the work for bob, well most of the new ones that come here have not clue one what a sponsor is and they need help not nice little chocolates wrapped in paper words. You are all a good mixed lot this board and that is what you get in a meeting. In meetings, you have the hard exterior but soft interior ones that tell it like it is, and you have the nicey nice that hand hold til your eyes are blood shot from crying and cant cry no more and you have the ones inbetween. That is what you get in any meeting. And Ebby, I am NOT sorry to say, if you dont get that mix in the meetings you go to or have never been told to get off the pitty pot or something simular then man you need to really find a REAL meeting. I have attended meetings accross this land and went to the world convention and I have heard that said more times than carder has liver pills. So I dont know where you stepped off the planet but I will not be confused for weeks and I guarentee bob wont be either.
As for Danny and his wife issues. As far as I am concerned. As unfortunate as that all is and it is very unfortunate, he is lucky to have a group of people here to love him in this fashion many dont have that. If he is not ready to here what he had heard than dont bring the issue here. If you cant here the answer dont ask the question. And as for his staying with his wife, well he is free and I assume over 21. I only hope no one else picks up the ball, like a school and makes the enevitable call the a child protective service agency and he loses his kids because he was waiting for the right time to protect them himself. 'I was waiting for after christmas or 'I was waiting for the kids birthday' or 'I was waiting chinese new year' or whatever. I dont think the authorities will be as willing to listen to that garbage. He seems really nice but with a little problem with priorities.
Recovery is work. We are all different.
Thanks for letting me share.
Mikka.
Hey Dog, not sure how all this got started exactly but somehow it did get lumped all together. Danny was upset about Mity being upset and talked about Sammy and Mitzy leaving. But see, bob knows Sammy well. They talk on the phone and are personal friends. He knows she's okay and she will most likely come back, but all this stuff isn't helping. What others don't know is that Bob had surgery this morning. He was in a great deal of pain. He wanted to go to a meeting tonight but wasn't able so he decided maybe he could come on here and help somebody with their recovery. Maybe he didn't word it ina way that Danny understood his intentions, but that's what they were. It's so easy for us to take things the wrong way, if we could only know what is in another's heart. In Bob's mind, he was talking to Danny from one man to another. He saw that spunk Danny had when he was defending Mitzy and was just telling him to muster up the courage to use that in defending himself. It wasn't meant to insult Danny, just encourage him. Nobody likes seeing Danny go through these things. Anyway, I wanted to explain. Maybe then people won't think just harsh thoughts. Love you all, Kat
sounds good kat, im gettin the feeling this thread is now going nowhere, anyway nowhere it was intended to go. i like danny, miss sammy, don't know bob & i get a little fired up with what i perceive as self righteousness. i automaticaly jump into a defensive mode and i guess i cant feel, or understand whats trying to be said. if i'm wrong, i'm sorry. its just so many times i hear just say no, just do this, just do that. when u r in the tough situation, the just do's aren't so easy. if we could just say no, we wouldnt be talking. i remember when i was in college and had to hitchike to school & was a minute late for class & someone commented "just leave a minute earlier." easy for him to say having a car & gas that his parents paid for. when u r not the one in the situation, as easy as the solution seems, its not. I got those kinda vibes from Bobs message, and maybe i'm wrong, but maybe he should "just learn how to say it better"
Listen folks,
I guess I'm really wrong here. Man I'm here for me and hopefully help someone if I can. I love my fellow addicts man. I wanna see everyone get this thing.
I don't care if someone goes to A.A. N.A. believes in God or not or just says F-it I'll do it my way, I just wanna see people hurting get help and live! I don't see anything wrong with saying, Hey Brother get off the pitty pot and get going with your life! Get clean! Man I have a passion for this thing folks! I don't beat around the bush theres no time for that! This to me is life and death!
What I don't get is everyone saying there danny's friend telling him how funny he is, or your crazy ha ha ha, or I like your pictures etc..!!!
This guy is hurting! He's using and in an abusive relationship! I wanna see him get clean no matter how he does it! I wanna see him happy with life!!!
Don't you people? Yet I get slammed for caring! I get slammed for trying to wake him up!!
danny, you post day after day about how sad you are with your wife, and your still using but you wanna stop! I want you to be happy dude, I want you to get clean dude!! WTF I don't mean any harm! WTF
I'm sorry for offending people, I'll quit posting I don't care! I am clean and sober!
I have a passion I wanna share with everyone! I see posts where people say I wanna get clean, but more posts about how funny something is !
Hey folks, go ahead and have fun, post pictures I'll leave I was only trying to help! I love having fun too! But Jesus most of you are still trapped in the grip!
Hey man, I'm really sorry I'm not a college grad. and don't have a Lawyers way with words, but I was only trying to help because I really do care!
Good luck folks, I didn't mean no harm...Take care....God bless..............Bob
I guess I'm really wrong here. Man I'm here for me and hopefully help someone if I can. I love my fellow addicts man. I wanna see everyone get this thing.
I don't care if someone goes to A.A. N.A. believes in God or not or just says F-it I'll do it my way, I just wanna see people hurting get help and live! I don't see anything wrong with saying, Hey Brother get off the pitty pot and get going with your life! Get clean! Man I have a passion for this thing folks! I don't beat around the bush theres no time for that! This to me is life and death!
What I don't get is everyone saying there danny's friend telling him how funny he is, or your crazy ha ha ha, or I like your pictures etc..!!!
This guy is hurting! He's using and in an abusive relationship! I wanna see him get clean no matter how he does it! I wanna see him happy with life!!!
Don't you people? Yet I get slammed for caring! I get slammed for trying to wake him up!!
danny, you post day after day about how sad you are with your wife, and your still using but you wanna stop! I want you to be happy dude, I want you to get clean dude!! WTF I don't mean any harm! WTF
I'm sorry for offending people, I'll quit posting I don't care! I am clean and sober!
I have a passion I wanna share with everyone! I see posts where people say I wanna get clean, but more posts about how funny something is !
Hey folks, go ahead and have fun, post pictures I'll leave I was only trying to help! I love having fun too! But Jesus most of you are still trapped in the grip!
Hey man, I'm really sorry I'm not a college grad. and don't have a Lawyers way with words, but I was only trying to help because I really do care!
Good luck folks, I didn't mean no harm...Take care....God bless..............Bob
You just did it Bob, you just showed your heart. I think now people will understand. I think when Danny reads it he will see your heart too and I'm hoping it will touch him that people care enough to say things the best way they know how. You did good, Bob. I'm so proud of you and so proud to call you my dear friend. Love, Kat
who said anything about u leaving or any of that stuff? Funny, i never got the impression danny was still using. Stick around , this is getting crazy. ur motives are pure & u know it , so whats the big deal if i call u on it. u challenge me & danny and a lot of other people, i know ur tough enough to get challenged in return, even if u had surgery today. so c'mon, stand tall. it is what it is, if we all agreed on everything & just wanted to hug and kiss each other, well what the f..k, we could get Joan Baez to sing Goombya & john Lennon to do imagine, but lets get real here. U r needed, i am needed (i hope) & we can all use ur support, even if i dont buy all ur selling, cause some of its gotta be good stuff. Stick around.
Bob, I take 15mg of Vicodin a day. I'm not "using" as you say. I am going through therapy. I go in for surgery tomorrow. And I am extremely scared. The last time I stopped taking them, I ended up in the hospital for 5 days. I have never taken it to get high. Have you? I don't even take enough to get high. I have a very serious illness. I am here because I quit benzo's 6 months ago and booze a year ago. And I wasn't even alcoholic. And I do have a lot of clean time under my belt. Try 44 years. If you EVER took a drug to get high, you have no business lecturing people. I never have in my life. And I have successfully quit and never looked back. I've overcome a lot of adversity in my life. I don't know you, but I would guess a lot more adversity than you. One thing Bob, is I never took, and never will take anything to get high. If I want to post a joke or a funny picture, just skip by them and continue to cut and paste from the Big Book. I am friggin ill Bob. I lost 65 pounds since March and have been in the hospital 7 times (for a total of 8 weeks) since then. The last thing I need is someone like you talking down to me. So if people like me, too bad. I like most people here to. If you really want me to slam you, keep it up pal. You'll learn what you really are.
danny,
You said the other day you were trying to get off the vics. And were down to a low amount. I thought thats why you were here sorry. And your wife beats you.
I'm sorry I was just trying to help.
If you quit bennies and drinking great, if your saying your not an alcoholic thats great too. I wasn't talking down to you, I was trying to help! Don't talk to me like that I didn't do anything but care. If you never did take anything to get high like you just said then why are you here! This is an addiction and recovery board!!!!
I don't paste from the Big Book!!! WTF are you talking about????????
I'm sorry your ill but then why are you on an addiction board if your not an alcoholic or an addict!!!
Yes I did take drugs to get high which gives me every right to try and help someone! I'm clean and sober!!!!!!!!
And don't threaten me !!!
You said the other day you were trying to get off the vics. And were down to a low amount. I thought thats why you were here sorry. And your wife beats you.
I'm sorry I was just trying to help.
If you quit bennies and drinking great, if your saying your not an alcoholic thats great too. I wasn't talking down to you, I was trying to help! Don't talk to me like that I didn't do anything but care. If you never did take anything to get high like you just said then why are you here! This is an addiction and recovery board!!!!
I don't paste from the Big Book!!! WTF are you talking about????????
I'm sorry your ill but then why are you on an addiction board if your not an alcoholic or an addict!!!
Yes I did take drugs to get high which gives me every right to try and help someone! I'm clean and sober!!!!!!!!
And don't threaten me !!!
I live by a hospital with a cancer ward for children. The little ones are dying every day...........
Sometimes my problems don't seem that big anymore.
Good night all! Tomorrow is another day for us....and the little ones!
Sometimes my problems don't seem that big anymore.
Good night all! Tomorrow is another day for us....and the little ones!
Idiot, I was addicted to benzo's you nutwack. Not bennies. You just want to keep on slamming. You just can't let it go. And you call me a motherf***er. Well I found my mother dead about a year ago. Actually, December 17, 2004. OK? Don't ever respond to one of my post again. I know your kind. You are going to hide behind a computer screen, slam people and pretend you are helping them. BS. You are a loser. And if you really want me to say what I think of you, keep it up. And you owe an apology to my mother.
I am sorry but I think well nevermind what i think.......Bob dear dont waste your time....you know the saying...some are sicker than others,.,........well ya just found one.....
One thing Bob, is I never took, and never will take anything to get high.
Those are your words!!!!!!! WTF are you talking about!!!! Make up your mind!!!!!!!!!
Benzos ok what ever!!!! I owe you an apology!!!!!!! Don't think So!!!!!
I didn't say anything to or about your mother, I called you what I did and took it out!! But I gotta tell you, YOUR ONE SICK DUDE!!!!!!!!!!
Oh and one more thing, I'll post to whoever I feel like posting too including you!!
I don't hide behing a computer screen. My e-maill address is.......
sunberst585@msn.com
You wanna meet face to face you just let me know!!!!
Those are your words!!!!!!! WTF are you talking about!!!! Make up your mind!!!!!!!!!
Benzos ok what ever!!!! I owe you an apology!!!!!!! Don't think So!!!!!
I didn't say anything to or about your mother, I called you what I did and took it out!! But I gotta tell you, YOUR ONE SICK DUDE!!!!!!!!!!
Oh and one more thing, I'll post to whoever I feel like posting too including you!!
I don't hide behing a computer screen. My e-maill address is.......
sunberst585@msn.com
You wanna meet face to face you just let me know!!!!
Danny.......good luck with your surgery tomorrow. We'll all keep you in our prayers.
Good night everyone.
Bob, I didn't take a benzo to get high. I was having anxiety. And I quit them ct. I never took enough to get high. I did take enough to get addicted though because they are far more addicting than pain meds. It takes all of two weeks. But I was never "high" on them. A physical addiction for legit meds is different than someone who runs out and abuses them. I made a choice in my life to quit them. And I did. Keep it up Bob. And yes, for using a profanity like that, you owe an apology. Don't match wits with me Bob. You are surely going to lose.
Bob,
Give it up he is NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry but true........
end it here.......no point talking to someone who obviously well you know
Give it up he is NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry but true........
end it here.......no point talking to someone who obviously well you know
certifiable was the word I was looking for...lol
A husband and wife that talk to each other on a forum are calling me nuts?
i think we are loosing just a little bit of focus here. fighten and arguing is good if there is resolution & even escalation can be ok, but this might be gettin a tad bit out of hand. if u guys saw each other on the street u wouldnt know each other, & if u first met in a bar , well not a bar, say a coffee place or wherever us recoverees are supposed to go, u might like each other. why not tone it down, at least for tonight, & think about the unknown that u r getting angry about. C'mon guys, u don't know each other, u cant hate each other. I mean, its not like we are the Aryan nation, Black Muslim, Jewish Defense league discussion group here. We are taling about life & hope & meaning & all that good stuff.
whatever Danny,,,,
to tell you the truth ........I did feel sorry for you at one time but you showed your true colors right here to me......btw my husband is in a different room...and as for posting to him....i was trying to get him to stop posting to you...cause obviously it is like talking to the wall........I will not argue with you...I dont have time nor do I wish to......good luck in your life..............cya
to tell you the truth ........I did feel sorry for you at one time but you showed your true colors right here to me......btw my husband is in a different room...and as for posting to him....i was trying to get him to stop posting to you...cause obviously it is like talking to the wall........I will not argue with you...I dont have time nor do I wish to......good luck in your life..............cya
Danny this is not what you need. Gina, what did you mean about some are sicker than others and you just found one. That was really mean. You have no idea what you are talking about. Danny is a very sick man and he is having surgery in the morning and being put under. Don't bring this stress his way. Just allow him to vent get it off his chest and move on. Danny enever set out today to jump into anybody's personal business and tell them what to do with their lives. Bob may have had the best of intentions this morning but now it's gone to a whole a diiferent level. Please Danny try and relax this evening. i know you are stressed and worried about tomorrow. It will all work out,please keep us posted. I will say a prayer for you this evening. Love ya, Rae
