Ok so 14 months ago I started MMT. I leveled out at 80mg. Stayed there 2 months felt good so started tapering 2-3mg every other week. I'm down to 31. I've been at 31 about 3 weeks. I was ready to go down again I have had no trouble at that dosage. Just so you have all the facts on 2.18 I got an amazing job. And it's an hour drive. Sleep is crucial to me. So I stopped going daily and dose on Sat., Sun., Tue and Thursday's. I dosed the first day of work the 18th, then Saturday I diesel and got Sunday's dose. Saturday was ok, I saved Sunday's for Monday, then went on Wednesday, still was ok, then went Friday, Felt fairly exhausted. I thought it was my new work schedule and getting up so early.
, then Saturday 26th I dosed, went home and slept over 6 hours. Again assuming the new hours. Saved Sunday's dose because I was starting to wonder if it was the Marthadkne because the days I didn't go I did fine. So it wouldn't be new schedule. So Sunday I took half of my 31mg. Became very fatigued but not as bad. Monday when I felt mild WD's I took remainder. Yesterday (Tuesday) I dosed at clinic. Within 2 hours I couldn't keep my eyes open to save my life. I'm at my brand new job making great $ at a fortune 500 co and I FELL ASKEEP AT MY DESK!!!!! Obviously I didn't go today and I'm scared TO does and to NOT dose. How can this happen out of the blue??? anyone? Please help!
I use to dose off on 30mgs also, it wasnt till i got to low 20 that i didnt do that, maybe it is the dose and the new change in life it could be causing you to be tired, have you thought about lowering your dose i dont understand why the skipping days, your still getting the same amt when you do take it. im not a professional , but i would say its the dose , try to taper the mgs down, cause i tried the skip a day , and it didnt make a change for me, your still getting the same amt when you do dose.
I'm skipping the days because my new job is an hour drive and I can't make myself wake up that early 5x a week. But it has to be the dose. That's what the nurse said too. It baffles us both that it came out of nowhere tho. She said when I dose just don't drink it all until o see the doctor.
In my first of years of methadone? Man I had that happen SO many times! My wife would get LIVID with me if we were out somewhere! I could NOT keep my eyes open! It even happened DRIVING! I got into multiple accidents because of it though none were bad, no one hurt. Eventually my body adapted to where it did not happen but for ME? It took a long long time. Probably it is simply the long half thing combined with a sporadic liver function so that this week is different than last week...which makes it insane if one wants to simply take the same dose every day. Maybe it finally stopped happening to me when my liver was damaged to the point where it was not sporadic anymore?? I had Hep C since 1980 and it all but took out my liver...now I am cured so I am HOPING the ol liver is not scarred so badly it can not heal itself... I feel for your brother...consider switching to suboxone/subutex?
I hate to discourage you, but for ME methadone turned me from a steller employee to a s*** employee they wanted to get rid of. Maybe it was my Hep C more than the Mdone, I do not know but I just had a crap attitude, low energy, forgot important things, it was awful ...but I think it did keep me working an extra several years where I do not think I could have without something powerful like methadone to make the pain bearable...on SSDI now though so all that is in the PAST for me
Well I mean I STILL could fired as a husband...sort of amazing how my woman puts up with me...although I have never failed her in being there for her physically present and never failed to physically provide...which is not even an issue anymore because I sent her back to college, she got her own career and together or apart we are both set. Must be love...
Well the confusion angered me and the clinic didn't seem to care. They told me to see the dr in 2 weeks with no solution for the 2 weeks in between. I was very put out. I found a suboxone dr who took me on almost an emergency notice after no Done for 3 days. I got there, a sweaty shaker mess, to find my BP up to 190/160 HR 120. I was scared to death. I knew I had to come In in WDs tho. I watched as it unfolded before me. I took the suboxone, 10 mins later I saw the BP change to 147/92 HR 100. I started to calm down. The WDs were fading away. 6 min later 130/80 HR 70. I felt "normal". It was so crazy to visually see the change in my HR and BP not to mention my body and mind. I knew then I had made the right decision and was so proud of myself for yet again, crossing a hurdle that was in my way. When I went to get on Methadone 11-7-14 I was a disaster. That day changed my life. I never have taken another pill, during that same time I stopped smoking pot and meth, and worked 60+ hours a week job hunting and interviewing. It took more than a year but my reward was the most amazing job I could have ever been given. I had worked all summer to get my Methadone down to 30mg so I could switch to Sub when I got a job. Oddly enough when I had been at 31 for 2 weeks, the job found me. I have an amazing story. I'm proof of what can be done when you want to. I have amazed myself. And continue to each day.
So happy for you! Me too, Day two of subutex and no real problems which is almost surprising seeing as I did not wait the prescribed amount of time. I am pretty sure the Mdone still on my receptors is keeping from feeling as well as I might but I would WAY WAY rather have this than to be in those horrible withdraws for the specified time period... but remember ( to anyone considering doing the same) I was fully stable at 10mg and DID wait until I could feel withdraw even if I did not wait until I was a mess...glad I did not do THAT to myself. Maybe I am just lucky, so don't use my milage to guage what might be your own case ...as they say YMMV
I hate to look a gift horse in the mouth but what is the down side to this drug? Everything has a downside in this life, no?
I hate to look a gift horse in the mouth but what is the down side to this drug? Everything has a downside in this life, no?
doug why didnt you just taper off of the methadone, you said you were stable at 10mgs , did you get sick coming off the 12.5. I see alot of ppl post this and im confused isnt there wds you get from tapering off both of them. I went to see my family doctor friday and asked what he thought i should do to come off the methadone, he said 2 week then drop down, i also spoke with my therapist who at one point was my counselor at the methadone clinic, and she her self got off of it, by tapering down , both of them told if done slowly you dont feel much of anything. I went from 17.5 to 15 almost 2 weeks ago, im goin to space another week in there before i drop down, not cause i got sick just cause i think i need to mentally prepare again, like i did for that drop.
I guess im asking how you felt coming down, and why the switch , and do you think that it will be easier to come off subs.
I guess im asking how you felt coming down, and why the switch , and do you think that it will be easier to come off subs.
I think 10mg was going to be my very bottom, I could always sort of feel the edges of withdraw at 10mg even after 2 weeks whereas at 20 and 15 not at all...MAYBE it would have gotten better with more time? I can't say for sure....but look around and see how many people are saying they even tapered THAT far much less any farther than 10mg? I am a wimp for withdraw, I can't take it if I don't have to. It is not AT ALL like I do not REALLY REALLY want off because I DO! I had already made the appointment for the subs so I went and when it was given to me well that broke my willpower to even try going cold turkey at 10mg. It was bad enough at the end of 40 hours after my last dose....I felt the withdraws sucking the life out of me and gambled on getting thrown into BAD withdraw which did not happen thank God. Now I am in a quandary what to do? Go for months on this and get my opioid receptors all calmed down after over 10 years on M'done? Or fight the statistics and bail right away? Let THIS drug get it's claws into me? WHAT would it be like to taper off this? Appears folks are doing it! Sooner or later I think withdraws have to be suffered but now? or later? you know??
You had asked about withdraws from tapering...the ONLY time I started to have real trouble was my first attempt at 10mg which only lasted 3 days and I knew it was getting bad...but I am convinced it was only because I had to go to up to the snow with all of my family rather than lay around at home...for ME laying around at home with no stress is what I believe made it SO easy for me ...but if i had a job still? I would have either not done it at all or tapered one or two mgs at a time...stress is THAT critical for me. The only thing I THINK that even makes this doable these days at all is the fact that I was cured of HCV last May...I believe HCV kicked my but SO HARD that I could not stand not to have opioid relief ... I do not even recall wanting much to get off of it before where since clearing the virus I just kept thinking more and more about getting OFF of Mdone!
Well I am what? FOUR days OFF now! Pretty much all full agonist but trace amounts opioids are OUT of my body for the FIRST time in well over a decade! More than a decade because I was on short term meds even before that for a long time! I am thinking now what to do....what to do?
Well I am what? FOUR days OFF now! Pretty much all full agonist but trace amounts opioids are OUT of my body for the FIRST time in well over a decade! More than a decade because I was on short term meds even before that for a long time! I am thinking now what to do....what to do?
It kind of sucks this forum does not allow personal contact because I would very much like to talk on the phone to someone like yourself who is so much where I am in this thing... I guess I understand why they restrict things like they do wanting it to stay anonymous and keep the parasites out of things...frustrating though in a nazi sort of way...would be cool if someone could come up with an anonymous skype for forums like this even audio only.
Yes i do wish you could talk with ppl , sometimes i just want to hear them tell me in person, what is goin on, im asking all these questions cause i face the same terrible path of recovery, i was suppose to be goin down tomorrow, but i decided to wait another week, why you might ask, cause i was afraid i wasnt ready, to mentally deal with it, but thats the kind of thinking that got me to be stuck on mdone for 8 years. i would always tell me self not tomorrow , next week, i got something to do this weekend or a meeting to go to , or work , i would always say i cant get sick for that, but in real life everyone keeps telling me it doesnt happen like that , u dont get sick off slow taper. its a mind game they say, to be honest i didnt feel anything dropping from 17.5 to 15 , actually felt more alive, like i had accoplished something, i even switched over to vaping and quit cigs, my point in asking was, at some moment in time WD;s will come , no matter what we take or do , they come , i dont want to hide from them anymore.
Aginn10...I would sit at mt desk, infront of a camera, and nod off. Very boreing job did not help BUT I am now down to 20 and haveing no problems nodding off!:)
tracy , i am also tapering off, im down to 10mgs, and doin great, havent felt anything , tomorrow i should be down to 7.5, good luck on your taper.
Hey noticed few of you mentioning wanting to talk with someone/each other but contact info gets taken down. Download the app 'line account' free text messenging/phone calls/voice messages to anyone in world free. After you have created you can search by ID (name you've created) you can always block someone if need ;) much support to all of you going through this, it's a f***ing battle but worth it!!!!
To dougie: the mentally part in being there for your woman is way more important than physical but I think both are better.lol.... My wife's aunt just left her husband cause she told her that he was there for her physically and financially but no one thought (in the family) that she was growing apart cause he wasn't a mental connection for/with her. That suck balls though. That's something that I'm working on but I don't know where to start.lol anyways talk to you later.
I heard that if you don't take the dose at the same time everyday than there will be times that you don't have enough( the correct amount) in your system and times when you have a little more in your system cause it hasn't been that long since your last dose... Just like when pill bottles say or your pharmacy says that if you miss your dose than to skip one and continue on your normal schedule. Yeah something like that right? IDK. I think I'm on to something there.
