If you were addicted to marijuana, and are now sober, can you have a glass of wine or a beer without becoming an alcoholic? In other words can you drink in moderation or is that too risky?
Wine is part of my culture and I wonder if my son (still a minor and not allowed to drink in the USA) who became mj dependent (addicted to mj) can have wine at a later time in his life or when he is abroad.
I have always been told a drug is a drug...and addicted personalities tend to become addicted to other chemicals...I have stayed away from everything...my doc was alcohol but I abused pot, cocaine, and pills...why take any chances? Just my ESH...Good Luck...Gina
I have learned, after countless vain attempts that I cannot use mind altering chemicals. I never really had a problem with Crack but then again, I never tried it...My point is, I abuse drugs. I never was a big drinker but alcohol always was a gateway drug for me that led me down a path of destruction. It's too hard for me trying to manage and control drugs or alcohol. The easier softer way, for me, today, is staying clean and sober from all drugs and alcohol.
Rachel
Rachel
great post barb...
we are going through the same thing.
my son thinks that he can drink again, but that he will stay away from mj and pills.
he also thinkds that he can play poker with his friends, but not online (he got into a lot of debt with online poker rooms).
he has 60 days today!!! i have let him go out to friends homes when they are playing poker and drinking beer. he says that he won't do either...yet, and will tell me when he thinks he is ready. needless to say, he is also underage, and as far as i am concerned at this point, it is illegal.
he says it's ok when he is out, that he doesn't want to mess up what he has done, so it really is not a trigger for him (according to him).
i have waited up both nights, and he seems, and smells fine.
i can't keep watching him... it's gotta be up to him. he also knows that he is out of our house if he uses anything agian.
best,
patricia
p.s. he is still attending daily meetings.
we are going through the same thing.
my son thinks that he can drink again, but that he will stay away from mj and pills.
he also thinkds that he can play poker with his friends, but not online (he got into a lot of debt with online poker rooms).
he has 60 days today!!! i have let him go out to friends homes when they are playing poker and drinking beer. he says that he won't do either...yet, and will tell me when he thinks he is ready. needless to say, he is also underage, and as far as i am concerned at this point, it is illegal.
he says it's ok when he is out, that he doesn't want to mess up what he has done, so it really is not a trigger for him (according to him).
i have waited up both nights, and he seems, and smells fine.
i can't keep watching him... it's gotta be up to him. he also knows that he is out of our house if he uses anything agian.
best,
patricia
p.s. he is still attending daily meetings.
barb - that is a tough one. I guess it depends on the individual. Myself, i am an alcoholic but I can take or leave mj. I was a casual smoker when I was younger, probably 1 - 2 times a month. As I got older that dropped off to once every couple of months then 2-3 times a year. It's probably been 2 years since I've smoked mj now. It was never a problem for me.
However, I'd be hesitant to smoke it now in case it triggered my alcoholism - for the most part when I smoked I was also drinking. That is where it could become a problem for your son. The reverse you know. Drinking alcohol could trigger him to want to use again. Like any mind altering substance, it lowers your inhibitions, and mucks with your judgement.
Of course it'll ultimately be up to him, but personally, I'd be very cautious.
However, I'd be hesitant to smoke it now in case it triggered my alcoholism - for the most part when I smoked I was also drinking. That is where it could become a problem for your son. The reverse you know. Drinking alcohol could trigger him to want to use again. Like any mind altering substance, it lowers your inhibitions, and mucks with your judgement.
Of course it'll ultimately be up to him, but personally, I'd be very cautious.
Thanks. It is going to be a tough battle. This is what I have been told as well but the never ever again is so drastic and goes against so many societal behaviors and expectations that I just wished there was a different outcome.
Patricia.
I am impressed by what S. is doing and how responsible he is. Being with friends who drink must be very difficult. I hope he stays strong.
In K's case, I wonder how supportive his friends are and I hope they don't sabotage his sobriety by telling that his parents are A**H**, who are too strict and don't understand anything.
Patricia.
I am impressed by what S. is doing and how responsible he is. Being with friends who drink must be very difficult. I hope he stays strong.
In K's case, I wonder how supportive his friends are and I hope they don't sabotage his sobriety by telling that his parents are A**H**, who are too strict and don't understand anything.
just on a side note barb,
have you read the posts from others on the board about "using dreams".
well, how about a mother that has "son using dreams"?
am i whacko or what??
since i got the cpap machine, i am sleeping better and dreaming more. i have at least one very vivid dream each night about steven screwing up. i get out of bed in the morning and run to check on him.
have you ever experienced this??
patricia
have you read the posts from others on the board about "using dreams".
well, how about a mother that has "son using dreams"?
am i whacko or what??
since i got the cpap machine, i am sleeping better and dreaming more. i have at least one very vivid dream each night about steven screwing up. i get out of bed in the morning and run to check on him.
have you ever experienced this??
patricia
No I have not read the posts. I'll look for them.
As far as the dreams are concerned, I think your deep fears appear in them. It seems that we will always be concerned/worried about our sons.
I have not dreamed about his using but dread the possibility of his going back to mj.
Do you go to Alanon/Naranon?
As far as the dreams are concerned, I think your deep fears appear in them. It seems that we will always be concerned/worried about our sons.
I have not dreamed about his using but dread the possibility of his going back to mj.
Do you go to Alanon/Naranon?
Hi Barb...
"Thanks. It is going to be a tough battle. This is what I have been told as well but the never ever again is so drastic and goes against so many societal behaviors and expectations that I just wished there was a different outcome."
It does seem drastic but there are many people who are not addicted who don't drink just because...And it is tough in the beginning...I will not deny that...but as time goes on I have found for myself that 1) don't care about what others or society thinks...this is about my life and health 2) not drinking has become my way of life now 3) other people accept more than we think.
I have gotten married...sober...have gone to many many many social functions...sober...go to bars/clubs with my friends...sober and have the BEST time. It took time...but a sober fun life is possible and actually very enjoyable.
Society would rather have me sober than drunk or high...look at those societal behaviors and expectations...How society looks down on alcoholics and drug addicts...how they (we) are judged especially in active addiction...I would rather deal with "What you don't want a drink?" then all the other horrible comments and consequences.
This is just my experience...love Gina
"Thanks. It is going to be a tough battle. This is what I have been told as well but the never ever again is so drastic and goes against so many societal behaviors and expectations that I just wished there was a different outcome."
It does seem drastic but there are many people who are not addicted who don't drink just because...And it is tough in the beginning...I will not deny that...but as time goes on I have found for myself that 1) don't care about what others or society thinks...this is about my life and health 2) not drinking has become my way of life now 3) other people accept more than we think.
I have gotten married...sober...have gone to many many many social functions...sober...go to bars/clubs with my friends...sober and have the BEST time. It took time...but a sober fun life is possible and actually very enjoyable.
Society would rather have me sober than drunk or high...look at those societal behaviors and expectations...How society looks down on alcoholics and drug addicts...how they (we) are judged especially in active addiction...I would rather deal with "What you don't want a drink?" then all the other horrible comments and consequences.
This is just my experience...love Gina
Thanks Gina
I will keep your message and show it to my son when the time comes.
I am so used to see wine served on all occasions that I wondered how he can resist alcohol.
Love
B
I will keep your message and show it to my son when the time comes.
I am so used to see wine served on all occasions that I wondered how he can resist alcohol.
Love
B
