Morning All,
I said in a post alittle while back to Browndog, that you can eat right, exercise, take all your vitamins and get 8 hours of sleep a night........and still feel bad. Thats because you forgot the most important part in all of this your mind. You got to feed your mind. How each of you do that I have no idea......cause it has got to be your thing! What drives you as a person. Attitude is key.....if you wake every morning with a piss poor attitude than guess what your day will be horrible. You can only blame yourself for that. If you wake with good thoughts for a good day then you have a chance at having one......then it is easier to get past anything bad that might happen. You need to start doing this as soon as possible....even while in withdrawl.
What kind of help you have fighting this is also a key....a big key! Everyone needs help......be it counseling, an addiction doctor or a friend/spouse/partner.
You need support. Then you need a plan for the long term......AA/NA (i know some of you don't believe it can help) but do you really know that it won't. Some of you may be strong enough to stay clean forever without it.......
Everyone is different only you can decide but just don't ever cut your mind off at the thought........to do that would be to stop asking for help. Today you may not need it a month from now a year but if the thought is there when you do need some help quick....you'll have an answer.
BTW.....I am doing the Alanon thing on-line.....do I understand it hell no.......the steps lost, totally confused......how to work them ok thats funny....But I try my hardest to hit that room everyday because for as intelligent as I may be there are so many things I don't know. Will I go face to face not sure but I haven't put it in my mind that I never wouldn't.
Love and hugs to all,
Tina
I hope this helps someone in there quest..............
Mistyeyes,
Keep hitting those online Al-Anon meetings and try to work up the courage to go to a face-to-face meeting -- I think you would really find a lot of answers and peace there. You deserve it. Good luck to you, M.
Keep hitting those online Al-Anon meetings and try to work up the courage to go to a face-to-face meeting -- I think you would really find a lot of answers and peace there. You deserve it. Good luck to you, M.
Hi Tina
What is that site you are talking about. I don't have meetings for Al-Anon or Nar-Anon in my area.
Could you please post that site so I can check it out.
Thanks and have a great day!
Mickey
What is that site you are talking about. I don't have meetings for Al-Anon or Nar-Anon in my area.
Could you please post that site so I can check it out.
Thanks and have a great day!
Mickey
Oh None I am hitting it......now I don't think I have a choice. Just wish to god I understood something.......thing is I live my life by some of the things people there have to learn so it confuses me. Don't know why they didn't already know......
Mickey....... the site is great putting in a link. If you jump in in the morning and no one is around just hang tight or try back...at night someone is always there.....I think there is a meeting tonight at 9pm. Any time there isn't a meeting it is just like an open forum but if you have a problem and need support just say so.
http://groups.msn.com/Alanon/_whatsnew.msnw
You will need a hotmail or msn account if you don't have one just set it up and then him join.....bit of a pain but worth it. If you need help let me know.
Tina
Mickey....... the site is great putting in a link. If you jump in in the morning and no one is around just hang tight or try back...at night someone is always there.....I think there is a meeting tonight at 9pm. Any time there isn't a meeting it is just like an open forum but if you have a problem and need support just say so.
http://groups.msn.com/Alanon/_whatsnew.msnw
You will need a hotmail or msn account if you don't have one just set it up and then him join.....bit of a pain but worth it. If you need help let me know.
Tina
misty
I am not entirely sure I understand your point but if I think I do... which is why they are so enabling.. like keep letting them (the addict or alcoholic) have money and the car and why they keep making exuses or why they just let the partner make them feel like they are bad...
well if that is it ... I have answer.... alot of the spouses... mainly the women are from dysfunctional homes before they got married... alot of the time that is why they picked the one they married...
codependency is a circluar disorder... that is why it is sooo very important to get kids into alateen so the cycle can get broken before they get into there own dysfunctional relationship... or if they do find themselves in one they can better cope than being sooo enabling..
wonder if that is what you mean..
Teresa
I am not entirely sure I understand your point but if I think I do... which is why they are so enabling.. like keep letting them (the addict or alcoholic) have money and the car and why they keep making exuses or why they just let the partner make them feel like they are bad...
well if that is it ... I have answer.... alot of the spouses... mainly the women are from dysfunctional homes before they got married... alot of the time that is why they picked the one they married...
codependency is a circluar disorder... that is why it is sooo very important to get kids into alateen so the cycle can get broken before they get into there own dysfunctional relationship... or if they do find themselves in one they can better cope than being sooo enabling..
wonder if that is what you mean..
Teresa
Hey Teresa,
Actually this was for those on the addiction side...but now I see it could be both ways. Everyone is looking for that quick fix......for sleep, energy, to feel better......But you can't always get that stuff in a bottle. It has to be a change in thinking....you have to work at it. You know that....I know you do......and you proved that it works! Just by posting this morning. The mind is so much stronger than the body, and fixing the body without helping the mind too kind of defeats the purpose. Lots of talk on here lately about what works for different things....but not much on helping the whole body mind included.
I put in the part about me doing the on-line meetings because I really didn't think I should put the post out there without that........not fair to ask someone to not count out different options if you aren't willing to make that jump yourself....know what I mean.
Tina
BTW....I love pool...not really great at it one of the reasons I play.......Love to beat a man.......and I learned to cheat in that department.....use all the charms I can muster! Despise when a man lets me win....that sucks!
Actually this was for those on the addiction side...but now I see it could be both ways. Everyone is looking for that quick fix......for sleep, energy, to feel better......But you can't always get that stuff in a bottle. It has to be a change in thinking....you have to work at it. You know that....I know you do......and you proved that it works! Just by posting this morning. The mind is so much stronger than the body, and fixing the body without helping the mind too kind of defeats the purpose. Lots of talk on here lately about what works for different things....but not much on helping the whole body mind included.
I put in the part about me doing the on-line meetings because I really didn't think I should put the post out there without that........not fair to ask someone to not count out different options if you aren't willing to make that jump yourself....know what I mean.
Tina
BTW....I love pool...not really great at it one of the reasons I play.......Love to beat a man.......and I learned to cheat in that department.....use all the charms I can muster! Despise when a man lets me win....that sucks!
THANKS MISTY!
I'll check it out!
I can only go on during the day though because I don't have a computer at home and I just use the one I have at work. I hope they have some meetings during the day from time to time.
Take care!
Mickey
I'll check it out!
I can only go on during the day though because I don't have a computer at home and I just use the one I have at work. I hope they have some meetings during the day from time to time.
Take care!
Mickey
Misty ~
I looked at that site, do you have to join before you can go to the chat room?
I looked at that site, do you have to join before you can go to the chat room?
Marina,
The site I put up in Alanon......but they do have other support groups like recovery friends which some of the people on this board use. Use the link then try to navigate to get to msn's other support groups. You will need a hotmail account but it is easy to set up. Hope this helps.
Hey how are you today?
Tina
The site I put up in Alanon......but they do have other support groups like recovery friends which some of the people on this board use. Use the link then try to navigate to get to msn's other support groups. You will need a hotmail account but it is easy to set up. Hope this helps.
Hey how are you today?
Tina
misty,
I always get mad when they 'let' me win... I like to 'let' them when a game or two by being a 'girl' and then let them have it a few games in a row... lol..... I never gamble of course.. I hate hustlers but I love the look on there faces... lol........ anyway...
yea... this is sooo powerful this addiction thing.. I dont mind telling you that this last few days really scared the hell out of me... not that I thought that I was immune cause I knew better but I have never had a craving be that strong or last that long... it was amost debilitating...
I still had the responsibility to control it or at least do EVERTHING in my 'tool' box to prevent my using even locking myself up and disconnectin my phone..lol.. but seriouly maybe not kidding.. whatever it would have taken.. but ...
I have said it a hundred times on here.. getting your body clean is the easy part... but most have to see for themselves.. I did..
Best wishes..
Teresa
I always get mad when they 'let' me win... I like to 'let' them when a game or two by being a 'girl' and then let them have it a few games in a row... lol..... I never gamble of course.. I hate hustlers but I love the look on there faces... lol........ anyway...
yea... this is sooo powerful this addiction thing.. I dont mind telling you that this last few days really scared the hell out of me... not that I thought that I was immune cause I knew better but I have never had a craving be that strong or last that long... it was amost debilitating...
I still had the responsibility to control it or at least do EVERTHING in my 'tool' box to prevent my using even locking myself up and disconnectin my phone..lol.. but seriouly maybe not kidding.. whatever it would have taken.. but ...
I have said it a hundred times on here.. getting your body clean is the easy part... but most have to see for themselves.. I did..
Best wishes..
Teresa
Misty ~
Can you sign on the buddy list?
Can you sign on the buddy list?
Mistyeyes,
i know what you mean you have to have some balance where the body and mind are concerned. You can't soleyheal the body with different remedies and have a sick mind.--So to speak. It takes a balance in both directions to make you become "normal" again and that is important. Like you said it has a lot to do with attitude,if you think it's going to be a great day it is all how you look at it. The mind is a powerful thing to waste. For many of us the mental part of addiction is a lot harder than the physical. So I agree with what you are saying. Rae
i know what you mean you have to have some balance where the body and mind are concerned. You can't soleyheal the body with different remedies and have a sick mind.--So to speak. It takes a balance in both directions to make you become "normal" again and that is important. Like you said it has a lot to do with attitude,if you think it's going to be a great day it is all how you look at it. The mind is a powerful thing to waste. For many of us the mental part of addiction is a lot harder than the physical. So I agree with what you are saying. Rae
Thanks Rae....I am glad that you agree, now make sure you try to work it too!
Teresa,
You have way with words.....I could just picture you setting them up and then knocking them right down. Hubby plays well never ever lets me win and when I do get lucky and beat him I gloat for days.
You take care and be proud of how you faced up to the challenge. You did real well, and helped alot of people posting your story.
Tina
BTW....what was the drug driving me crazy too!
Teresa,
You have way with words.....I could just picture you setting them up and then knocking them right down. Hubby plays well never ever lets me win and when I do get lucky and beat him I gloat for days.
You take care and be proud of how you faced up to the challenge. You did real well, and helped alot of people posting your story.
Tina
BTW....what was the drug driving me crazy too!
misty
mescaline (sp)
mescaline (sp)
