I have been trying for the last 1/2 hour to get my computer to translate the info I wanted for you from German to English with no luck. I was tryimg to find out about what you had asked about the policies in Germany about take-homes. It may come better from your side. Try this one. It is about European Methadone providers.
http://www.q4q.nl/methwork2/home.htm
I got this,and another from a sheet about traveling abroad with methadone. Some countries have laws prohibiting former addicts or people with criminal records from entering.
The other website is the INDRO (??) website
http://www.indroonline.demethadoneindex.htm
of course if you don't read German you are out of luck unless you can have someone translate.
So far thats all I can give you but I will keep trying. How are you feeling today??
I have been talking to Jack today,we have so much in common with advocacy and all. Quite an interesting soul.
Hope all is well with you and yours,and is the wife happy you finally went back to MMT??
If I may ask what dose are you on as of late?
Hang tough,
Granny
Thanks Granni !...I was doing some research yesterday too....looks a bit grim but i think what it boils down too out here is that its mostly up to the service provider/doc's....lots of old regs still in effect and if im reading it correctly, the gov is still mostly abstinence based....i can read German to an extent...but i can also get it translated....thanks so much for looking....
im stabilizing at the moment on a 1.5 ...thought i would try an even lower dose and tried a .9...but it didn't hold me...so i went up the full 1.5...and its ok...for the moment...i had forgotten all the damn side effects ...and of course, there back to a degree...but in the long run...im a happier person...my wife is ok with it...shes relieved i think...not happy about being tied to the damn stuff again...she was planning on being able to places without worrying about it...but he's good when i tell her i can try again sometime...and we are both researching a different place out here where i might transfer too...
im to pick up the changed script tomorrow and he wants me to stay on the 1.5 for 6 weeks... doc says we can talk about it ...whatever that means to him....if i need to go higher than the 1.5 i think , i hope, he will let me do so...1.5 is pretty low from my usual dose...i was at a 8.5 when i began the taper...we figured that correlates to about 85mgs...im on the poli levamethadon...sorry about the spelling...and its suppose to be, according to the Germans anyways...twice as powerful as the R methadone...not so sure about that...but WTH...as long as im on a stable dose...dont care what it i...lol.
anyways...thanks for asking...and how are YOU ????...congrats BTW on getting the pick to go and be with th big wigs...wicked !!!...you GO Granni...i think its quite an honor you were chosen...good job !!!!
im stabilizing at the moment on a 1.5 ...thought i would try an even lower dose and tried a .9...but it didn't hold me...so i went up the full 1.5...and its ok...for the moment...i had forgotten all the damn side effects ...and of course, there back to a degree...but in the long run...im a happier person...my wife is ok with it...shes relieved i think...not happy about being tied to the damn stuff again...she was planning on being able to places without worrying about it...but he's good when i tell her i can try again sometime...and we are both researching a different place out here where i might transfer too...
im to pick up the changed script tomorrow and he wants me to stay on the 1.5 for 6 weeks... doc says we can talk about it ...whatever that means to him....if i need to go higher than the 1.5 i think , i hope, he will let me do so...1.5 is pretty low from my usual dose...i was at a 8.5 when i began the taper...we figured that correlates to about 85mgs...im on the poli levamethadon...sorry about the spelling...and its suppose to be, according to the Germans anyways...twice as powerful as the R methadone...not so sure about that...but WTH...as long as im on a stable dose...dont care what it i...lol.
anyways...thanks for asking...and how are YOU ????...congrats BTW on getting the pick to go and be with th big wigs...wicked !!!...you GO Granni...i think its quite an honor you were chosen...good job !!!!
Hi Con-
I too have been scearching around for info on Germany mdone policies- -most of what I found are old- (like from the mid 90,s)- and others ,probably the best ones for info were in german
Try-- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...les/PMC1797169/
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This site below can translate from German to English maybe you can find something that way - -Im lucky if I can get my spellcheck to work
mit Frieden und Liebe.
jack
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt
I too have been scearching around for info on Germany mdone policies- -most of what I found are old- (like from the mid 90,s)- and others ,probably the best ones for info were in german
Try-- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...les/PMC1797169/
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This site below can translate from German to English maybe you can find something that way - -Im lucky if I can get my spellcheck to work
mit Frieden und Liebe.
jack
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt
evenin' Constantine, Just a quick note to see how you are doing, I do certainly notice how much better you are feeling, ya sound like a whole new person,like you did a few years back, before I ever came to this site. Clear, clean, and happy, and frustrated with things in life like we all get.
I did read about the kernals wife, what a b#$%ch and the nerve?? If you weren't where you are today, in your recovry, I shudder to think what choice words would of come out of your mouth. I'm plugging my ears now.....
Anyway, our PAAG meeting was really cool. The CEO had a migraine so couldn't hang as long as he wanted, but gave us a good idea about his passion for helping addicts. UNBELIEVABLE. This man genuinely cares about people who are suffering from heroin addiction.
No final word yet on becoming Corporate PAAG, but within a few weeks. Found out our particular clinic has a very high rate of relapse. Bummer. But we discussed some new ideas about how to approach that as it seems to happen within the first and second day of treatment.??!!! News to me. I've been up since 4am and it is now 6:55 Pm, was 70 miles one way so I feel hungover I'm so tired and I still have to walk my dogs for 30 minutes. So...
Take care my friend until next time
Granny
I did read about the kernals wife, what a b#$%ch and the nerve?? If you weren't where you are today, in your recovry, I shudder to think what choice words would of come out of your mouth. I'm plugging my ears now.....
Anyway, our PAAG meeting was really cool. The CEO had a migraine so couldn't hang as long as he wanted, but gave us a good idea about his passion for helping addicts. UNBELIEVABLE. This man genuinely cares about people who are suffering from heroin addiction.
No final word yet on becoming Corporate PAAG, but within a few weeks. Found out our particular clinic has a very high rate of relapse. Bummer. But we discussed some new ideas about how to approach that as it seems to happen within the first and second day of treatment.??!!! News to me. I've been up since 4am and it is now 6:55 Pm, was 70 miles one way so I feel hungover I'm so tired and I still have to walk my dogs for 30 minutes. So...
Take care my friend until next time
Granny
Good Morning Granny :),
you sound like how I felt last week on the road...exhausted !...but sounds like it was a great trip...i will keep my fingers crossed on your appointment !!...it feels so good to know you are out there and have our backs...you and Jack !!...i can understand the high relapse rate at the beginning of the treatment...its such a different feel...it takes a bit to adjust to it...i think anyways...i remember i thought it felt so dirty compared to the dope...way different ...takes a bit to get use to it...and its a scary feeling too...its good to hear that this bigwig is compassionate...that we sooo need...empowerment, not belittlement....and thank you for the links...ive not gotten a chance to study them yet...in fact im running late again this morning...oops...but i will...and thanks for the encouragement...ya...i feel better...probably a combination of the methadone and the relief...hate the side effects...feel like a whale...makes me feel like im bloated and fat.. deep concentration is difficult... anxiety creeps in and i keep biting my tongue again when i sleep...LOL...ok...so that's weird...but anyways...aside from the obvious adjustment part...yes...im feeling better...and glad of it...because your right...i wouldn't have been half as polite as i was yesterday if i had had that encounter last week,,!,You.have a good rest Granni...hugs..,and you know your welcome in the jello Aquarium...all us fishes !
Con
you sound like how I felt last week on the road...exhausted !...but sounds like it was a great trip...i will keep my fingers crossed on your appointment !!...it feels so good to know you are out there and have our backs...you and Jack !!...i can understand the high relapse rate at the beginning of the treatment...its such a different feel...it takes a bit to adjust to it...i think anyways...i remember i thought it felt so dirty compared to the dope...way different ...takes a bit to get use to it...and its a scary feeling too...its good to hear that this bigwig is compassionate...that we sooo need...empowerment, not belittlement....and thank you for the links...ive not gotten a chance to study them yet...in fact im running late again this morning...oops...but i will...and thanks for the encouragement...ya...i feel better...probably a combination of the methadone and the relief...hate the side effects...feel like a whale...makes me feel like im bloated and fat.. deep concentration is difficult... anxiety creeps in and i keep biting my tongue again when i sleep...LOL...ok...so that's weird...but anyways...aside from the obvious adjustment part...yes...im feeling better...and glad of it...because your right...i wouldn't have been half as polite as i was yesterday if i had had that encounter last week,,!,You.have a good rest Granni...hugs..,and you know your welcome in the jello Aquarium...all us fishes !
Con
