Fourth Steps And Revelations

Hey Everyone,

Val so good to see your post...yep, I know I can't make direct amends to everyone because I would definitely hurt a lot of people that don't need to be hurt, so I just stay sober to make a daily living amends. Same thing with the $$ stuff too...little by little I chip away at that. What I caught in your post was what is still happening to me, K is constantly bringing up the past and reminding me of everything I did wrong as a Mother, but after reading the posts on here, I realize that I have been beating myself up in regard to this situation far too long, I made amends to her, she is still just so resentful...I cried off and on last night...I still have good and bad days, but I know I should be grateful for my sobriety no matter what, but some days I lose sight of that.....thanks again to you and eveyone else for sharing...
Hi Stacey.... thank you for reminding me why I used to be on these boards soo much! Everyone definitely has helped me on these boards. Sometimes I find that I obsess about booze after coming here. I am sure it was my own crazy thoughts that were keeping me from the boards. Who knows.....possibly a relapse in the works. Hummm....<scratching my head> hummm???? Who knows. This disease is cunning isn't it.

Here are two jokes that I emailed Idgie...since she is an Aussie. They cracked me up. Sometimes the little silly things are what make me laugh the most. Hope someone at least cracks a smile from them.


*What's an Australian Kiss?

Same as a French kiss only down under! lolololol


* What do you call a boomerang that doesn't come back?
A Stick! LMAO


Hope everyone is having a peaceful sober day!
Ha ha - yeah drunk dialing, that was awful. That feeling that you could of phoned or texted someone it wasn't clever to contact was scary. Gosh, I am so glad I don't drink anymore!!
Lacey, Zac and Val

The steps say "make direct amends where possible except when to do so would injure the person or others"

(paraphrased)

Of course it is no good to make an amend that only hurts someone, that just makes it worse. I think the trick is not to look at it from our point of view but from the other person's. I know for me, I've spent so many years being selfish that I have to make a conscious effort now to look at someone else's point of view and not my own.

Yeah, stealing *sigh* that's a big one of course. I have a lot of those and haven't done anything about them yet. I will tackle that problem when I'm ready to. My first amend though is not to steal now that I'm sober. Not to keep incurring those amends. I will deal with the past one step at a time. I can't unravel 18 years of crap in just a few weeks or months. That will all take time.

thanks for all posting to this thread.
Idgie
Hi Idgie.

..Thanks for saying exactly what the step is. As you know I don't follow the 12 Steps so I wasn't exactly sure how it was worded. I'm not against that for some people but I just don't follow it traditionally as some do here.

I say whatever works for you then by damn follow it!

Amends........I have a few left that I don't know that I will ever confess to. Mostly because it would hurt alot of people and I know the only reason that I would confess would be to make myself feel better. That isn't the right reason. Who knows in time it may all come together. I liked what you said Idgie. No more stealing when sober.

I never had any kind of problems stealing when on alcohol but that was just probably because I had means to get my booze. I did steal alot when on speed though. A drug is a drug, is a drug, is a drug. Makes no difference really to an addict/alcoholic. Same same. We are all the same. :)

Good thread to you too Idg!