Did anyone see Larry King last night. That lawyer Shapiro(OJ trial) was on and his son died of a drug OD. I didn't see it, but my Mom told me about it. He was supposedly clean for 18 months, but he was at a party drinking heavily(clean, huh?) and took 1/2 extasy and started projectile vomiting at the party and was found dead the next morning. This is what my Mom told me happened, but they were going on and on that pot was THE gateway drug, but isn't alcohol the real gateway drug or nicotine. Who among us STARTED with pot...I am sick of alcohol not being called a drug. It is a drug and kills more people than all the illegal drugs combined. Why won't anyone talk about it($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$). Anyways, relapse usually starts with a drink and then your defenses are down to other drugs. How could this guy be sober and drinking heavily at a party...what scool of thought is this? CAS.
I did see Larry King last night with Bob Shapiro and his youngest son. It was very sad indeed. He has started a foundation as a result of Brents death.
It only takes one pill of Xstacy, to cause death.
It only takes one pill of Xstacy, to cause death.
One thing I found interesting that I didn't know before is that alcohol withdrawal can be as deadly as benzo withdrawal. I had a friend when I was about 7 months sober that died from seizures from alcohol wd. She was in her early 40's. Scared me to death. She got sober a couple days before I did but only stayed about a month.
12 Stepper, I have also heard that and discounted it until recently. I was talking to another person who has been in rehab several times. He said, "do you know the only drug that can kill you from quitting is alcohol?"
Since then, I have heard the same thing. It is unfortunate but true.
Since then, I have heard the same thing. It is unfortunate but true.
Cas...how are you feeling? After I posted to you re:Herpes infection, I got a really bad case of shingles under my breast bone...holy moly! Talk about pain!!! My DR. just called in some Valtrex for me...I hope you are better today..lots of info. on the net re:herpes..keep that immune system i check...NO stressing ok...Love, Sharonn
I am a true blue alcoholic-but havent had a drink in almost 10 years. i remember standing in front of the sink drinking plain triple sec just to have something and then puking it in the sink and trying again and again until i could get it down. I drank for 15 years but for me getting off the alcohol was a lot easier than the pills. Alcohol is very dangerous, i personally think that is the drug that should be illegal.
CAS
I have to agree,for me Alcohol would always lead me back to my drug of choice. . When I 1st stopped with the heroin ,all it took was a couple of drinks and the cravings would start & I would be on my way tointo the worst areas to cop.
Well,I stopped drinking(,amazingly without any problem.) and the feelings I used to get> to get high>to search the drug areas>etc... didnt come around as much.
I think the booze made me feel industuctable. Of course,I have plenty of other triggers,but alcohol is the worst for me. I dont know why, nor do I question why, but I just lost my desire to even have a cold beer on a hot day - I,d rather have an icetea.
Maybe watching my ex-wife ruin her life with booze played a part in it,but still somewhere along the road I lost total desire for alcohol. and I must have drank an ocean full of all kinds of booze thru my HS and Collage years.
If I can just lose total desire for opiates,Id be in great shape- They,re not kidding when they call this a baffleling decease are they?
love
jack
I have to agree,for me Alcohol would always lead me back to my drug of choice. . When I 1st stopped with the heroin ,all it took was a couple of drinks and the cravings would start & I would be on my way tointo the worst areas to cop.
Well,I stopped drinking(,amazingly without any problem.) and the feelings I used to get> to get high>to search the drug areas>etc... didnt come around as much.
I think the booze made me feel industuctable. Of course,I have plenty of other triggers,but alcohol is the worst for me. I dont know why, nor do I question why, but I just lost my desire to even have a cold beer on a hot day - I,d rather have an icetea.
Maybe watching my ex-wife ruin her life with booze played a part in it,but still somewhere along the road I lost total desire for alcohol. and I must have drank an ocean full of all kinds of booze thru my HS and Collage years.
If I can just lose total desire for opiates,Id be in great shape- They,re not kidding when they call this a baffleling decease are they?
love
jack
Firesign LOL we have tried that route--Phrohibition. Alcohol is no different than gambling. You outlaw it? just goes underground.
What is so sad is people want to always blame someone or something instead of taking responsibility for there actions.
Many problems IMO is twofold. Lack of education and AWFUL parenting leads to kids getting caught up in drinking and drugs.
I am not talking about just poor people but also middle and upper middle class kids.
I was 15 yrs old 80 pounds overweight being made fun of and turned to drinking--pot -pills eventually coke. I had nobody to talk to was angry. It was the beginning of my using career. DEPRESSION
JMO but to say to outlaw alcohol? What about all the people that drink responsible? I can go on and on but this is a recovery board.
I am responsible for my actions.
JMO--Jeff
P.S Cass X one hit is deadly mix with alcohol twice as dangerous, Kids are abusing these pills thinking they are safe. SAD
Regarding withdrawal and death any drug OTC/ legal or illegal can cause death. This is why it is so important not to b your own doctor. This is my biggest problem. TRUSTING a DOCTOR but I am blessed to have found a few good one's.
What is so sad is people want to always blame someone or something instead of taking responsibility for there actions.
Many problems IMO is twofold. Lack of education and AWFUL parenting leads to kids getting caught up in drinking and drugs.
I am not talking about just poor people but also middle and upper middle class kids.
I was 15 yrs old 80 pounds overweight being made fun of and turned to drinking--pot -pills eventually coke. I had nobody to talk to was angry. It was the beginning of my using career. DEPRESSION
JMO but to say to outlaw alcohol? What about all the people that drink responsible? I can go on and on but this is a recovery board.
I am responsible for my actions.
JMO--Jeff
P.S Cass X one hit is deadly mix with alcohol twice as dangerous, Kids are abusing these pills thinking they are safe. SAD
Regarding withdrawal and death any drug OTC/ legal or illegal can cause death. This is why it is so important not to b your own doctor. This is my biggest problem. TRUSTING a DOCTOR but I am blessed to have found a few good one's.
One thing we have to remember is not everyone drinks the way alcoholics do. Some people CAN have a couple drinks and quit. Me, I had to drink till it was gone or till I passed out. I also was taught that when an alcoholic takes a drink it wakes us up and makes us want to party. When a non alcoholic drinks, it makes them sleepy and relaxed. I always wondered how someone could have a glass of wine and go to sleep. When I have a glass of wine it always turns into the whole bottle and then I'm looking for more. And any other drug for that matter. Just because I can't drink doesn't mean the whole world should stop.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI.../21/lkl.01.html
If you can't open it, go to Larry King web site click on archives.
Here is the conversation from Larry King and the foundation url. for those of you that missed it.
http://www.foundationfordrugawareness.org/
Unfortunately, he did more than X ..
If you can't open it, go to Larry King web site click on archives.
Here is the conversation from Larry King and the foundation url. for those of you that missed it.
http://www.foundationfordrugawareness.org/
Unfortunately, he did more than X ..
Brookshire one hit of X can mess up your body for life. Also some people just drop dead after one hit.
These clubs keep it under wraps.
Media covered X for awhile. There was a mafia informant named sammy gravano. he ratted out a whole bunch of mobsters including Jon Gotti a major crime boss. for a 5 yr sentence. admitted to killing 19 people. Recently he and his son were arrested with 100,000's of X . Who do you think eats these pills? KIDS-- Like Crystal Meth these drugs are easy to make. Like I said its up to the parents to educate there kids about the dangers of drugs and alcohol.
I have a 15 yr old who has experimented. I told her my story and where alcohol and drugs can lead. I am also not stupid enough to know that she will find this our for herself. You can only educate your kids --you cannot lock them up. They will make mistakes and hopefully learn from them.
Have a good night --Jeff
These clubs keep it under wraps.
Media covered X for awhile. There was a mafia informant named sammy gravano. he ratted out a whole bunch of mobsters including Jon Gotti a major crime boss. for a 5 yr sentence. admitted to killing 19 people. Recently he and his son were arrested with 100,000's of X . Who do you think eats these pills? KIDS-- Like Crystal Meth these drugs are easy to make. Like I said its up to the parents to educate there kids about the dangers of drugs and alcohol.
I have a 15 yr old who has experimented. I told her my story and where alcohol and drugs can lead. I am also not stupid enough to know that she will find this our for herself. You can only educate your kids --you cannot lock them up. They will make mistakes and hopefully learn from them.
Have a good night --Jeff
Yes sub, I know one pill of X can cause death, I posted that in the posts below cas. I was saying he was on other stuff as well.
It is a club drug so alcohol is usually involved and of course a date rape drug--BAD STUFF
Take care brookshire--Jeff
Take care brookshire--Jeff
