I thought i would start this pole, this is the first one that i have done so i hope it makes sence......................
But i have been thinking alot about how things still go way wrong even when the drugs are gone, and wondered how it is for others
Pants
Life for me is pretty normal but there are times when I cause major damage. I will have a melt down and I dig a hole so far it seems like I will never get out. It hurts because I usually drag the poeple I love down with me, it seems to "right" and I go and screw with it because chaos is normal to me. I think eventually we all get the hang of living a quiet life but I think it is different for everyone. Good poll though, makes you think...
it does make you think doesnt it............... getting a swing of things and normal calm life sounds nice doesnt it
The grass is always greeneer on the other side,LoL It is nice... people start to look at you different. It really helps the self esteem when I am out with the kids and a nice looking well dressed mom wants her kids to play with my kids. I never used to care what people thought and I still dont but I do like being accepted as a productive member of society, as they say. I dont know.. it is just so diiferent and sometimes I think it is way more work than being strung out. It does pay off and then it really sets in that you are doing whatever it is you were put on this earth to do. In fact i just went to my son's first play at school on thursday. It was the most beautiful rendition of three blind mice I ever saw. Thats the stuff that pulls you through to the next minute, hour day, month.... Its worth every struggle I ever struggled with... LIX
My answer is no wreckage since..
You need another choice, those that have no wreckage in their life - if you mean self caused wreckage....as is i couldnt choose one..
Sorry
Ali
Sorry
Ali
You have NO wreckage in your life, Ali? none??? How did you manage that?
I'm still cleaning mine up and try so hard not to create more. Me? I'm human.
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I'm still cleaning mine up and try so hard not to create more. Me? I'm human.
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but Lisa, I'm the perfect package. Teehee!
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Well of course you are Michelle and we'll just keep telling you that....lol waving back!
Lisa quote
THANK YOU
If you're not having any wreakage,you're not leaving the house.It's part of the human experience.Sobriety and recovery gives us a damage control valve.
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THANK YOU
If you're not having any wreakage,you're not leaving the house.It's part of the human experience.Sobriety and recovery gives us a damage control valve.
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What are you talking about? I can create wreckage and never open the front door.
LMAO Gina!!!!
Lisa, all I have to work on is my generosity. I've been told I'm to generous.
Lisa, all I have to work on is my generosity. I've been told I'm to generous.
cowgirl
Well you know we are the "sad sacks" as well as being the definitely not so "innocently addicted" addicts. (Oh in fact probably guilty as sin)
But if someone had no wreckage, so be it, great. I don't know what it means vis a vis value, and there should not be some moral/ethical ranking involved with this. The only way this data should be used is (for those who have decided they have wreckage) to clean up any perceived wreckage up and to develop new ways of thinking/behavior/actions to prevent future wreckage. What others decide their history contains is none of my business. What others think my history contains is none of their business. There really is no better/worse here, probably just "yets".
What others think of me and my wreckage/wreckage cleaning is none of my business. If they don't notice..fine, If they are inspired..fine, if they laugh at my history...fine. I am going to endeavor to persevere, as always. Just continue cleaning up the wreckage...speaking of which..how goes your wreckage cleaning? Mine is plugging along, no isolating, so spending behind spouse's back...oh and no drugs/alcohol (that goes without saying)..oh even keeping (mostly) up at work.
Well you know we are the "sad sacks" as well as being the definitely not so "innocently addicted" addicts. (Oh in fact probably guilty as sin)
But if someone had no wreckage, so be it, great. I don't know what it means vis a vis value, and there should not be some moral/ethical ranking involved with this. The only way this data should be used is (for those who have decided they have wreckage) to clean up any perceived wreckage up and to develop new ways of thinking/behavior/actions to prevent future wreckage. What others decide their history contains is none of my business. What others think my history contains is none of their business. There really is no better/worse here, probably just "yets".
What others think of me and my wreckage/wreckage cleaning is none of my business. If they don't notice..fine, If they are inspired..fine, if they laugh at my history...fine. I am going to endeavor to persevere, as always. Just continue cleaning up the wreckage...speaking of which..how goes your wreckage cleaning? Mine is plugging along, no isolating, so spending behind spouse's back...oh and no drugs/alcohol (that goes without saying)..oh even keeping (mostly) up at work.
Tim, I dont buy that. I am out all the time and I can honestly say I don't have wreckage. I'm certainly not Godzilla, stomping down the street, chewing up cars and little old ladies, destroying buildings and genrally pissing people off....I havent had to apoligize to anyone in a very long time..
I guess it all depends on how you define wreakage.
It has a much more benign meaning to me now that I'm sober.It doesn't mean I'm creating a disaster wherever I go but it does mean that I still make mistakes that haunt me.All I can do is try and be better.
It has a much more benign meaning to me now that I'm sober.It doesn't mean I'm creating a disaster wherever I go but it does mean that I still make mistakes that haunt me.All I can do is try and be better.
Bullwinkle1011
I think "wreckage" might just be a very strong word for mistake, error, that perhaps an amend might be called for. If you haven't done such a thing, great, my hat is off to you.
I will not assume for myself that I will not ever make a mistake again, rather unrealistic. I may have to make amends again. That has nothing to do with drugs/alcohol, this involves being human. Non-addicts also have to make amends as well. Its just plain old owning up to a mistake one has made, not just those in the distant past, but, say, for example, blowing up at one's spouse for no reason (I just did that a couple of weeks ago). If you feel you have not done anything to warrant making amends for, as I said great.
But that might be the wreckage they are referring to. Just because I quit drugs doesn't mean there aren't other behaviors I need to work on. At least in my case, my seriously non-functional behaviors began long before the drugs did.
I think "wreckage" might just be a very strong word for mistake, error, that perhaps an amend might be called for. If you haven't done such a thing, great, my hat is off to you.
I will not assume for myself that I will not ever make a mistake again, rather unrealistic. I may have to make amends again. That has nothing to do with drugs/alcohol, this involves being human. Non-addicts also have to make amends as well. Its just plain old owning up to a mistake one has made, not just those in the distant past, but, say, for example, blowing up at one's spouse for no reason (I just did that a couple of weeks ago). If you feel you have not done anything to warrant making amends for, as I said great.
But that might be the wreckage they are referring to. Just because I quit drugs doesn't mean there aren't other behaviors I need to work on. At least in my case, my seriously non-functional behaviors began long before the drugs did.
Elim:
I agree with you....my seriously non-functional behaviors began before I started using drugs also...using was just one more expression of the same things that have plagued me since I was fairly young.
Using didn't really create the wreckage in my life, (not defending using behavior here)...but, I guess what I am trying to say is...self destructive behavior is what led to most of my wreckage.
Is that all over because I don't use anymore? Hell no! I wish! I work on it daily, I try to be honest with myself about what is happening...and it is easier certain times than others. Right now, at this stage in my life, this is one of the difficult times. All I can really muster these days is to try and be mindful.
Mindfulness leads to self protection and to living an outwardly loving life. I want both!
I always enjoy your posts Elim...Thanks!
I agree with you....my seriously non-functional behaviors began before I started using drugs also...using was just one more expression of the same things that have plagued me since I was fairly young.
Using didn't really create the wreckage in my life, (not defending using behavior here)...but, I guess what I am trying to say is...self destructive behavior is what led to most of my wreckage.
Is that all over because I don't use anymore? Hell no! I wish! I work on it daily, I try to be honest with myself about what is happening...and it is easier certain times than others. Right now, at this stage in my life, this is one of the difficult times. All I can really muster these days is to try and be mindful.
Mindfulness leads to self protection and to living an outwardly loving life. I want both!
I always enjoy your posts Elim...Thanks!
Here is an example of what I consider an error.I think wreakage is too strong of a term really.
I was sitting in the theatre with a friend yesterday.The lady in back of me tapped on my shoulder and said I dropped my cell phone.I was sure I hadn't taken it with me so I dismissed her and the ideal completely.Basicaly,she was interrupting my concentration on the previews.
She was just making a concientious gesture which I blew off.
I woke up this morning sans cell phone.
My morning has been spent going to the theatre and getting on my hands and knees looking for the damn thing all because I couldn't take 10 seconds to maybe think.
I felt like an idiot and today I'm paying for it.I had to just go purchase a $190 cell phone because of my impatience.
Wreakage,mistake,inconvenience...whatever.I'm out 200 bucks.
I was sitting in the theatre with a friend yesterday.The lady in back of me tapped on my shoulder and said I dropped my cell phone.I was sure I hadn't taken it with me so I dismissed her and the ideal completely.Basicaly,she was interrupting my concentration on the previews.
She was just making a concientious gesture which I blew off.
I woke up this morning sans cell phone.
My morning has been spent going to the theatre and getting on my hands and knees looking for the damn thing all because I couldn't take 10 seconds to maybe think.
I felt like an idiot and today I'm paying for it.I had to just go purchase a $190 cell phone because of my impatience.
Wreakage,mistake,inconvenience...whatever.I'm out 200 bucks.
Tim wrote: I felt like an idiot
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Thank you
Thank you
