Help With Subutex

Pain Pills
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Hi everyone,
I saw a physchiatrist to get my zoloft evaluated and told him about the cravings for norcos. He thentold me that Subutex could be helpful for the cravings. I took a 1/2 of 2mg and it knocked me on my butt. I looked it up on line, but I'm having troubles REALLY understanding what it's all about. I have been clean 11 days now.
Thx,
Omega
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Hey Pam,
Well the problem is that you are clean and you put an opiate back into your system.....Did you get a buzz from it, if so not a good sign......
I have to question your doctor for putting you on it for just cravings, naltrexone is a better choice I think since you are clean. This way in your head you know that no opiates will work.....
Love,
Tina
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Hi Omega;

I never took sub myself. If you've been clean for 11 days (which is great!) do you need to go on sub? Just curious.

I've had wicked cravings in the past that led to relapses. I'm taking naltrexone every day and it really seems to be helping. Just a bit over 3 months clean this time around.

Jim
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Thanx Tina and Jim. I think Naltrexone is the answer too. I don't know why he did that. It was a strange buzz. I didn't like it. Felt sick and itchy and yuck. Boy, it's amazing how much we have to watch our docs!
Thx,
Omega
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Good luck Omega. If you go the naltrexone route, just make sure you don't have any opiates in your system. Can cause severe wd's. If I remember correctly I had to be clean of opiates for 5 days before I could start on the naltrexone.

Your doctor should know this.

Jim
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I agree with the others that naltrexone is better for cravings - especially if u have been clean for 11 days. Why start an opiate (Sub) that is addicting & causes w/d's when u just need something for cravings?!?!

Again - another example of Dr's not knowing cr@p about Sub!!!!!


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I eco Mistyeyes 1,000 %
naltrexone is much more of what you need for the stage you are at !!!
Sub. will start you in a cycle you don't want to get caught up in if you are already clean. I would ask you DR about the naltrexone a.s.a.p

Sizzle is right as well we are teaching these Dr's about sub.
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Thank you everyone. I will talk with him about this. he explained it like it was a good thing. Maybe I didn't explain myself right.
Thank you again.
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Or you could ignore the cravings and take nothing. If you've come this far without a drug in your body why would you want to start up again? The cravings go away as long as you don't pick up again. It just takes time. I'm willing to bet you would feel much better without starting a new drug. Eventually you will have to go thru some kind of withdrawal again. Do you want to have to do that again? Have you given AA or NA ay thought? What about therapy? There are other solutions besides taking pills to get off pills. Give your body time to heal. Eleven days is just the beginning. A good beginning, but still a beginning.
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Thx Kat. I just got home from a good pills anonymous meeting. You are right about taking nothing. I have to get out of that thinking of taking a pill.I go to AA and the PA meeting and an aftercare meeting from the rahab I was in.
I can do this!
Omega
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Wow! You are lucky to have PA in your area. I am jealous,
It didn't work for me until I realized I had to stop the mindset that I needed a pill for every ill. Some things cure themselves in recovery. I found that the act of taking a pill was just as important to me as the pill itself. Once I broke that cycle the healing seemed to move faster. Give yourself some time to see if you really need anti depressants or anything if you aren't already on them. Some depression is normal in early recovery. Didn't we just lose our best friends?
You'll be fine. Just keep hitting those meetings, get a sponsor, work the steps, find a power greater than yourself. And USE THOSE PHONE NUMBERS!
love ya
Kat
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Omega, I find your enthusiasm very inspiring. When you wrote "I can do this" I softly said, "yes you can. " You are in my thoughts and prayers. Kat gave you lots of good suggestions. Sometimes I was on the phone for hours until the meeting but I didn't use. I first started calling the NA/AA hotlines which helped me in reaching out to the numbers from the meetings. Let us know how you are doing. Dawn
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Kat,
I ws saying that last night at the meeting.."the act of tsking the pill is almost as important as the pill itself" That is sooo true! I miss the whole ritual of it. It's crazy, but it is what it is. It is just hard work. But I can do this....
Thank you very much!
Love,
Omega
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YES YOU CAN!!!!

Just keep your mind buzy with things...I love this time of year, so been buzy decorating...but man its hard

Hang in there

Traci