I've been posting entries on the,"recovery Diaries" page and I know I'm doing it all wrong. I'm a total idiot when it comes to internet stuff. What the heck is a blog thread???? I'm still exersizing. No results yet but exersize makes me hungry. I think I'm just eating more. I meant to ask my councillor at the clinic about subs today and I spaced it. I'm kind of afraid to make a changr. What if it doesn't work for me and They won't let me change back. I don't have the option of changing clinics or going to a private doctor, right now. I guess i'm a chicken. I'm not 100% happy with methadone but subs might be worse. Am I making any sense?
Aright ,Terrapin,yes you are making perfect sense.ive been on a meth. clinic for 6yrs,[70ml].takeaways no probs,a bit to easy&comfy,but if i was given the offer of subs i would be very irrationally suspect,if you know what i mean....all the best whatever you choose....Davey
Shirley
My most recent attempt to come off of mdone wasnt too long ago. I also was parinoid ,after all I wasnt doing to bad. However,I again thought it was time. I went from 80 to 30 or so ,with the plan to get on subs.
However,I never really looked for the right doctor and started feeling a little washed out. I stopped going to my meetings and eventually stopped the taper ,went back up to 45.I sabataged by detox- knowingly or unknowingly I set myself up to fail.
I think a lot of us that have been on mdone a long time are frieghtened of a life without it.We are never really encouraged by anyone at the clinic to get off the stuff so it just goes on & on.
You really have to want to get off that stuff more than anything!- No-one should make the decision for you because that usually doesnt work
Before you deside which way to go,-subs,inpatient, whatever..make sure your solid in your convictions and have a support group or 2 to be there for you.
all the best & much respect
jack
does terrapin have a GD connection or am I reading to much into it?
My most recent attempt to come off of mdone wasnt too long ago. I also was parinoid ,after all I wasnt doing to bad. However,I again thought it was time. I went from 80 to 30 or so ,with the plan to get on subs.
However,I never really looked for the right doctor and started feeling a little washed out. I stopped going to my meetings and eventually stopped the taper ,went back up to 45.I sabataged by detox- knowingly or unknowingly I set myself up to fail.
I think a lot of us that have been on mdone a long time are frieghtened of a life without it.We are never really encouraged by anyone at the clinic to get off the stuff so it just goes on & on.
You really have to want to get off that stuff more than anything!- No-one should make the decision for you because that usually doesnt work
Before you deside which way to go,-subs,inpatient, whatever..make sure your solid in your convictions and have a support group or 2 to be there for you.
all the best & much respect
jack
does terrapin have a GD connection or am I reading to much into it?
Yes jackofhartzz, I am a dead fan. It's been awhile since I've been to a show. I think maybe Charlotte;2 yrs. ago. I'm not sure. And that was my first show since Jerry died. You know how it is. When I got strung out, I just lost touch with everybody and lost interest in anything but dope. I used to say when I got high that I was going to Terrapin Station. I'm going to stay on the methadone until I know exactly what I want. That could be a long while. I don't want to jump into anything, though. My car died today. I guess it's back to public transportation for me, again. Peace! Terrapin
hi terrapin. i've tried both meth and subs.personaly i prefer subutex .the only thing i didn't like was the first day of taking the tablet. made me feel really weird but after that it's best thing since sliced bread. my mind is soooooo much clearer now. hugs, herman....p.s. why would they not let you change back if suboxone isn't for you? perhaps if you made sure before { if } you changed over.....
i have taken meth and subutex and i would rate the subs so much better, theres no pain.. you do feel half normal again.. the only thing is that in the morning you really do have to give the subutex time to kick in, but as the day moves on you do feel better... i had none of the leg cramps, and did get abit of an appetite with them, i also dont like what i have seen what the meths does to people teeth,thats one reason alone why i want to get on the script for subutex instead of the meths, i dont want my teeth falling out.. luckerly i have managed to keep my teeth white while being on the brown...
i say give the subutex a try you might just find you work with them better... each to there own tho tracie x
i say give the subutex a try you might just find you work with them better... each to there own tho tracie x
Thank's Tracie. I think I am going to give it a try. (subs, that is) Against almost everyone,s advice I'm getting ready to go back to my husband. We've been seperated for almost a year now. The last 6 months of which He's been recuperating from a bad fall. He geeked out on cocaine and thought the cops were after him and jumped from a 20 ft. balcony. He landed on his feet. Unfortunately, he broke both of them. He's been clean since the fall. I know it's probably a bad idea to get back in his life. He and I don't do sober very well together. We could and it would be great!!! But we always seem to sabotage each other,s sobriety. I'm tempted to go back because I know he needs me. He's still in a wheel chair and he's facing months of gruelling physical therapy.To get back on the subject; I've checked and the closest methadone clinic to where he lives is 80 miles. (one way) But, I figure I can find a M.D. to prescribe subatex. I'm looking forward to a change. My life centers around that damn clinic. PEACE, Shirley
i am so glad you took my advice, i would'nt listen to anyone telling you not to go back to him, you know what its like when you love someone.. he deserves another chance, look his in a wheelchair its all about being there for someone in the bad times not just when things are going good.. if i were you i'd give the subutex a go along with your boyfriend.. goodluck whatever you do, as you know we all need it. tracie x
Tracie, You're the first person that seems to see this the way I do. I've been with Ted for 16+ years. He deserves my loyalty. I know he would be there for me if the situation were reversed. I do think my sobriety is important. but I can't turn my back on a friend that needs me. And he is my best friend. I know you guys will be there for me. If I make the move, I'll probably be doing a lot of whining. Please, bear with me. It will be nice to finally get laid again. I was beginning to think, I had to give that up with the dope. peace, Shirley
ha ha, i bet he could do with a bit of loving too!!!! i'm glad your gonna give your husband another chance, you feel much better when you two get back together.. i bet he misses you loads. i know some people think its alot easier to do the rattle on your own but i think its so nice having someone in the same posistion as yourself for you to lean on abit, someone to talk to that understands what your going through. as i said good luck girl, i really hope everything works out for you both. tracie x
can i just add that i believe methadone making your teeth rot is slightly untrue. i believe it's the life style a.k.a. not brushing your teeth , incorrect diet etc.i thihnk it's a cop out saying meth. is 2 blame. yes , it contributes but meth. isn't the sole culprit , but mainly lack of dental-hygiene. chow , herman.
Ter, Got nothing to add on either methadone or subs, but that title you made this is hilarious.
I'm mentally challenged myself. Know what ya mean about the spacing out.
Stay cool, you are doing really good.
I'm mentally challenged myself. Know what ya mean about the spacing out.
Stay cool, you are doing really good.
sorry herman, maybe i am wrong but thats all ive ever seen with people on the meth.. and alot of addicts have told me there teeth was ok untill they started taking the stuff, we all live and learn, sorry, tracie x
Terrapin; you are not a chicken.
Go easy on yourself.
Change is a step into the unknown; I think it is only natural to feel apprehensive.
I lived with a man on methadone for three years. I truly felt for him because I could see how damned difficult the whole process of getting clean is.
I think there is a lot of people out there who are rooting for you, and everyone else, to make it.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Go easy on yourself.
Change is a step into the unknown; I think it is only natural to feel apprehensive.
I lived with a man on methadone for three years. I truly felt for him because I could see how damned difficult the whole process of getting clean is.
I think there is a lot of people out there who are rooting for you, and everyone else, to make it.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
i have just spken to someone that has been on meths for years and he told me that meth rots your bones, teeth are bones so it must rot them too! i know what your saying about brushing your teeth,it cant help if you dont brush them, but i have taken meth myself and its very thick sweet kinda syrup like substance... you made me laugh about saying its a cop off, all i was doing was giving my own personal opinion in what i believe im not a doctor as i say you just live and learn. tracie x
As you say Tracie live&learn ,ive been on meth. for 6yrs.&yes there is a point of view that says the meth can get into your bone marrow(without obvious side effects)but honestly i have never heard of meth.rotting bones after 6yrs of it i should have an inkling.As for your teeth,its all up to the individual,but at the clinic i attend they deff.give meth.users the option of twice yearly free dental checkups,some take this oppurtunity others not,but you can see the ones that bother.Take care....Davey
thanks davey for putting me straight on that one, well i suppose its just some lame excuse that some addicts have given me for having black teeth, i dont care wot people look like its the inside that counts im a very loving person and obviously a bit gullible, i hope i havent upset anyone all i meant was i didnt want to take the meth only coz of that reason, i didnt fancy the idea of looking after my teeth the whole of my life to take something that made them rott, i have learnt so much chatting to people on here, im far from an expert tho, as i said before its only just over a year that i have been on the brown, when many of you have been fighting this drug for many years what do i know... tracie x
Tracie you know plenty,so theres no need for apologies,thats the great thing about this board is that you wont get judged,you can be you.When struggilng with addiction may it be a yr. or 10,being honest with yourself is one of the 1st.steps&youve shown you are that&much more.Take care all the best...Davey
I used to have alot of problems with my teeth and I thought it was the dope doing it. I've noticed that people tend to blame whatever drug they're on at the time for any problems they might be having. I think it's true that alot of people don't take care of thier teeth when they're strung out and by the time they get on methadone, well...it's too late. I spent alot of money after I got clean, making my smile pretty again. It was worth every penny. Well, I didn't spend alot...my husband did. I'm glad you liked my title, Bryn. Yes, I'm one of Jerry,s kids. lol. peace, Shirley
do some research meth does not rot your bones.,thats bull.people think it cause of the aches are worse than heroin.,for the teeth it does contribute,but its not the meth alone,its like sum1 else mentioned,brushing them and taking care helps,.theres alot of sugar in meth.,so brush your teeth after youve taken your dose...theres always sugar free meth.
