Guess it's my turn to feel stupid.......what's a bup??
Read about it to hard to explain without writing a novel......it is used to detox from opiates but it has some pain contol properties and best of all you are not high while on it......thats why I put in the links.....NEON is probably sleeping where he is....He know the most about it!
kerry,
if we are our own worst enemy....can't control our desires.....then how can one successfully be on a pain management program. This is what i need to accomplish. would love to talk to you more. and does anyone know if the horror stories you hear about methadone withdrawal are true??
if we are our own worst enemy....can't control our desires.....then how can one successfully be on a pain management program. This is what i need to accomplish. would love to talk to you more. and does anyone know if the horror stories you hear about methadone withdrawal are true??
I have no idea what w/d's you are gonna go through with the methadone...but i can tell you this, i have been on about 20-30 vic's a day. And the i gave the pills to my fiancee and asked him for help to tapper down. I got down to about 5-8 a day.(some days were beter than others.) and now i have had to have a surgery as well and i went on to percicets and i hated it so they put me back on vic's.
Today is my second day going throught the w/d's and its getting crazy and im starting to think that i cant handle it. But im gonna keep going. My whole body is shaking and i feel like i cant control my muscles and my brain just wont work with the rest of my body.
I know this is problobly nothing compared to the methodone but thats my story, i hope it helps in some way for you . Keep posting there are alot of people that will help you with this on here!!!!
YouR Friend, Christina
Today is my second day going throught the w/d's and its getting crazy and im starting to think that i cant handle it. But im gonna keep going. My whole body is shaking and i feel like i cant control my muscles and my brain just wont work with the rest of my body.
I know this is problobly nothing compared to the methodone but thats my story, i hope it helps in some way for you . Keep posting there are alot of people that will help you with this on here!!!!
YouR Friend, Christina
Thank you Christina......friends i need indeed......hang in there....be strong. So I have a question now for the experts. According to my reads and experiences combined it appears that opioids, methadone, and "bup" are all addictive. So which is the lesser of the evils........I can't be without something and have a life.
Your welcome, sorry i cant help you more, but stick to it and it will make a difference in the end.
As far as what is the "lesser evils of all" Me personally, i feel that they are all bad , just in different ways. Maybe you should talk to the Dr. about everything and tell them the way your feeling. I personally, could never do that but im not the strongest person eaither. Maybe you might have better luck.
When all fails.....Spill your guts out here and someone might be able to give you that "priceless" information that your looking for.
Your Friend, Christina
As far as what is the "lesser evils of all" Me personally, i feel that they are all bad , just in different ways. Maybe you should talk to the Dr. about everything and tell them the way your feeling. I personally, could never do that but im not the strongest person eaither. Maybe you might have better luck.
When all fails.....Spill your guts out here and someone might be able to give you that "priceless" information that your looking for.
Your Friend, Christina
is there anyone out there like me..........who needs pain med yet needs to control their abuse at the same time. I"m not here to quit, I am in too much pain. I am here to learn how to control my desire to get loaded. I"m really starting to doubt what i said to "M" earlier.......is it really possible to have the stuff in possession and control oneself. I am not ashamed. We all have a legitimate medical problem here, not bad people. This is not our fault, thus nonetheless we need to somehow cope and survive.
thanks again Christina,
I think i just asked the million dollar question. How can someone like me have the stuff for pain and not abuse it. I will end up going down what path fate leads me in the end and then i will know the answer. In the meantime I just want friends to talk to.
I think i just asked the million dollar question. How can someone like me have the stuff for pain and not abuse it. I will end up going down what path fate leads me in the end and then i will know the answer. In the meantime I just want friends to talk to.
I for one needed the pain meds in the begining of this situation, and then it got out of control.
I do know that MOLLYJEAN has to take the meds for the same reasons as you and she is currently trying to get down to what the Dr. ordered. She is normally only on here in the morning (she lives in New York).
Maybe you can get in touch with her tomorow and she could give you more advise!!!
I also know that she has given her pills to her boyfriend to help tapper her down to the amount she is suppost to take. And it seems to be working well for her. She went though some w/d's though, i know she said that . But im not sure how eles eveything has worked for her!
Im not a bad person eaither. I live in a high society and live in a very nice home that nobody would guess this happened to me. I have a job that would fire me if they thought for one min. that i have a drug problom. I have never done any other drug in my whole life and i just feel that this could happen to anyone. Sometimes the Dr. 's dont always know whats best for everyone.
I just didnt want you to think that im a bad person.
Lots of luck to you and i hope everything turns out o.k. for you. Again , sorry i couldnt help you out more and i hope that you get the advise that your looking for. MOLLYJEAN, could help and answer alot for you i think.
Your Friend, Christina
I do know that MOLLYJEAN has to take the meds for the same reasons as you and she is currently trying to get down to what the Dr. ordered. She is normally only on here in the morning (she lives in New York).
Maybe you can get in touch with her tomorow and she could give you more advise!!!
I also know that she has given her pills to her boyfriend to help tapper her down to the amount she is suppost to take. And it seems to be working well for her. She went though some w/d's though, i know she said that . But im not sure how eles eveything has worked for her!
Im not a bad person eaither. I live in a high society and live in a very nice home that nobody would guess this happened to me. I have a job that would fire me if they thought for one min. that i have a drug problom. I have never done any other drug in my whole life and i just feel that this could happen to anyone. Sometimes the Dr. 's dont always know whats best for everyone.
I just didnt want you to think that im a bad person.
Lots of luck to you and i hope everything turns out o.k. for you. Again , sorry i couldnt help you out more and i hope that you get the advise that your looking for. MOLLYJEAN, could help and answer alot for you i think.
Your Friend, Christina
yeah me....you talked with my wife tina i abused my pain meds and also used herion to control the pain but i am an addict tried ct made it 3 weeks and relapsed because of pain now i am on suboxone (bup) which keep me from relapsing and makes the pain tolerable
so badness this bup is your answer then?? how long have you been on it??are you happy with the way things are??i'd have to go public and admit to my doc that i was an addict to get on that ...........this is not something I want to do. Once you have that label it stays for your whole life and can do much harm..........especially in my case. I have got to do this on my own so no bup and no methadone. Now that sheds a different light on things eh? Why oh why do we love to get high sooo much when it is just self destruction.....we sit around and waste away. It makes no sense yet we yearn for it.
Christina I did talk to mollyjean. She said to give the stuff to someone to control what i get......which seems like the only way......damn this just snuck up on me...I can't believe i let this happen.....seems I always learn the hard way.......i have no regrets, it's been a fun ride, but it has to end I know because a person just can't live as a hardcore drug addict. I just wish i never had a taste. It's like smoking.....I quit yet it runs thru my mind to haunt me most every day. These things don't go away usually, we have to learn to overcome them. I beat alcohol and I can get it anytime, I beat smokes and I can get them, but this is a new thing.....I can have it.....just a little at a time.......I'll be sure to let you all know how it goes as It will start thursday .............
stupidy is the only logical answer i can come up with for why we get high i have been on the sub for 3 weeks it works well for me and as of now i don't know if i will stay on or get off but i am dropping my dose was taking 16 mgs when i started now on 4mgs still have the same result
all my docs know the pain doc told me an operation which could make things worse or pills for the rest of my life the pain doc would give me back the pills in a heartbeat but he knows i want to be off of them don't really know what to tell you about telling everyone i told everyone all my friends and family know even my boss hope this helps takes me forever to type
all my docs know the pain doc told me an operation which could make things worse or pills for the rest of my life the pain doc would give me back the pills in a heartbeat but he knows i want to be off of them don't really know what to tell you about telling everyone i told everyone all my friends and family know even my boss hope this helps takes me forever to type
sounds like you are doing good i hope it continues. I don't recommend the operation but that's just my opinion. That is not an option for me. It's either pain.....or pills.......i just have to control myself.....and it's not proving to be an easy task thus far...........
I must quote gnr
I used to do a little but a little wouldn't do it so a little got more and more
just kept trying to get a little better .....a little better than before........
This is not a good train to be on as you can see the tracks lead one way......must get off......one things' for sure.......this s*** definitely wears on one mentally...........people have no idea the strength it takes to cope with this stuff.......
I must quote gnr
I used to do a little but a little wouldn't do it so a little got more and more
just kept trying to get a little better .....a little better than before........
This is not a good train to be on as you can see the tracks lead one way......must get off......one things' for sure.......this s*** definitely wears on one mentally...........people have no idea the strength it takes to cope with this stuff.......
I" am a newbie so slap me if this is innappropriate to ask?? But I am curious if there is anyone close to me.........let's say anywhere near wyoming for starters??
