I see people on here saying that they haven't had any meth in a few days because they don't have the money--or they have switched to a cheaper habit--of course the cost of their relationships and life are far more than the drugs, how much does it really cost money-wise? I ask because my husband had done it--may be doing it occassionally now and I know there are a bunch of people out here in the boonies that makes it so I am guessing it is probably cheaper out here than in a big city--maybe someone could get some for just a favor? Am I silly to think that?
meth is very expensive...up to $125 or more a gram...i live in the boonies so not sure of big city cost...coke 50 a gram...
anyone giving it away is doing nobody a favor...
the reason i am telling you is because you are concerned for your husband...
i am trying to stay clean...one day at a time
anyone giving it away is doing nobody a favor...
the reason i am telling you is because you are concerned for your husband...
i am trying to stay clean...one day at a time
ok--this is how stupid I am--how much is a gram--is that like one dose or will it last for more than one 'trip'? Another question--at what point is a person considered an addict? I just read another post that told about how horrible it is and how addicts act--and I have seen all of this in my husband--the lies, the terrible mood swings. But then I think he will go for months without doing anything but of course now I am feeling paranoid about it all again and thinking maybe he is. But I don't know if he really is or if I am just afraid that he is. I am just so sick of the yo-yo affect. Trying to work on my marriage, him getting his act together, going to church with us, being a real family man and falling in love with him all over again, just to have him fall of the wagon and go from love to almost hate--not trusting him and wanting out of the relationship. He is working but I'm not seeing much money--I have been thinking he just isn't getting paid and am wondering why he continues to work for the guy. He has told me that it isn't that expensive, that he doesn't use that much to where it would be costly and he acted like he could get it for practically nothing--like the favor thing--but then again, he has lied to me about other things, why did I expect him to be telling the truth about that. Can an addict go for months without it and still be drawn back in?
in my opinion, once you have been on it, it is the most difficult addiction to kick...the feel good effect of the drug is impossible to duplicate with any other substance
a gram is definately more than one dose
i don't know how long you can go without it, i got hooked after i started doing it IV, before i could have cared less, i pray that i can stay away from it now.
i wish i could ease your mind and give you all the answers that you seek
i do know that if your husband doesn't admit to being an addict and seek help, then you need to go to al/anon and do some reading on how to cope with this situation
a gram is definately more than one dose
i don't know how long you can go without it, i got hooked after i started doing it IV, before i could have cared less, i pray that i can stay away from it now.
i wish i could ease your mind and give you all the answers that you seek
i do know that if your husband doesn't admit to being an addict and seek help, then you need to go to al/anon and do some reading on how to cope with this situation
You're pretty smart. I have been going to Alanon. I went for about 6 months and then when things got better at home, I quit but have started back now. I have heard if they don't want help or think they have a problem that it is difficult if not impossible to quit on their own--but at what point is it considered a problem. I mean it is a problem to me if he uses at all, after all it is illegal, so I would think since that jeopardizes our marriage that that would be considered a problem--but not necessarily an addiction? I just posted on a post that nytepassion had started a few days ago. It may or may not help explain where I am coming from--I guess I am definitely confused.
i'm glad to see that you have sought help...having been an addict more or less all my life, i find it hard to see things from your side of the fence, and my husband is the type who will let the elephant sit in the corner forever as long as it doesn't grab the remote...lol
thanks for talking with me--even if you can't see my side of it--just like I can't understand yours. I do feel for you and what you are going through and am very proud of you for kicking this thing. I wish I could have the same compassion for my husband--but you haven't hurt me personally--emotionally and he has. thanks again for your input!
Bumbnhead, thank you for the cost answer. I've wondered about that for years and see that a couple people for their own evil reasons have given meth to my child for many years, free. It's wonderful that God has the last word.
Curious, your husband may be a newer user (1-3 years), or simply use less for years, than the heavy users. Either way, he is an addict. Some are able to stop using for a couple months or so. Some can quit for up to 5-6 months, and this is the very time that is most common to relapse.
Methamphetamine is considered the most awful drug out there, as it changes the personality so much to anger. The person is often not recognized as their former selfs in looks (they look very ill/bizarre), and often not recognized as the person they were in personality, all for the worse. Meth raises brain dopamine levels to 2700 times above normal! Cocaine raises brain dopamine to 550 times above normal, alcohol to 140 times above normal, heroin to 160 times above normal. If you want to learn about addiction in general, and meth addiction and a new treatment that has been studied for 20 years, which stops addiction and cravings, go to WWW. BNL.GOV. This treatment medication will be going through clinical trials here in U.S. soon, and treatment is available now outside U.S., now.
Curious, your husband may be a newer user (1-3 years), or simply use less for years, than the heavy users. Either way, he is an addict. Some are able to stop using for a couple months or so. Some can quit for up to 5-6 months, and this is the very time that is most common to relapse.
Methamphetamine is considered the most awful drug out there, as it changes the personality so much to anger. The person is often not recognized as their former selfs in looks (they look very ill/bizarre), and often not recognized as the person they were in personality, all for the worse. Meth raises brain dopamine levels to 2700 times above normal! Cocaine raises brain dopamine to 550 times above normal, alcohol to 140 times above normal, heroin to 160 times above normal. If you want to learn about addiction in general, and meth addiction and a new treatment that has been studied for 20 years, which stops addiction and cravings, go to WWW. BNL.GOV. This treatment medication will be going through clinical trials here in U.S. soon, and treatment is available now outside U.S., now.
Curious,
I just wanted to let you know that there are dozens of people on the friends and loved ones part of this board who understand exactly what you are going through because we have either been there, or are there for the first time or again and again. My husband is a Heroin addict and over the past year/year and half I have seen him loose everything - somethings that were his to loose others that were as much mine as they were his.
When is it addiction, you ask? Does it matter?
You need to put a stop to it - you should nt be willing to tolerate it EVER if you are not confortable with him doing this you have to tell him and you have to give him a choice which he needs to make on his own. You should get him any and all the professional help you can get your hands on even if its just couples theropy to get him to a therapist - I am willing to bet he does nt want to see drug councelors or any of that seriously. I urge you.
I spent so much time wondering if it really was a addiction or if it was nt, whether it was fair to nag a well dressed, well educated ivy-league graduate, making well over 100,000.00K a year and providing for his family about a "toot" or 2, I spent so much time wondering if the problem was nt in my head and if I was just being a prude, trying to investigate exactly how often, and then how much he was doing, trying to catch him in lie, catch him in the act, giving him one week to prove he could be clean before I kicked him out, waiting another weak for his check to clear at the bank so he had money to leave and making another deal with him etc. that by the time I had resolved to do something about it - I was leaving our house with my then 3 year old son to live with my parents after he negotiated to end the lease early on the apartment (one day I came home and he said we had to be out of the apartment by the end of the month), no job, soon to sell his car because our account CLEANED out! He was and remains completely lost to heroin and I have no idea how he will get himself out - but if only at the very early stages I had been able to stop him......my life, my sons life and his life could be so increadibly different! Take a stand for your future and your marriage before its too late!
Dont dwell to much and take care!
I just wanted to let you know that there are dozens of people on the friends and loved ones part of this board who understand exactly what you are going through because we have either been there, or are there for the first time or again and again. My husband is a Heroin addict and over the past year/year and half I have seen him loose everything - somethings that were his to loose others that were as much mine as they were his.
When is it addiction, you ask? Does it matter?
You need to put a stop to it - you should nt be willing to tolerate it EVER if you are not confortable with him doing this you have to tell him and you have to give him a choice which he needs to make on his own. You should get him any and all the professional help you can get your hands on even if its just couples theropy to get him to a therapist - I am willing to bet he does nt want to see drug councelors or any of that seriously. I urge you.
I spent so much time wondering if it really was a addiction or if it was nt, whether it was fair to nag a well dressed, well educated ivy-league graduate, making well over 100,000.00K a year and providing for his family about a "toot" or 2, I spent so much time wondering if the problem was nt in my head and if I was just being a prude, trying to investigate exactly how often, and then how much he was doing, trying to catch him in lie, catch him in the act, giving him one week to prove he could be clean before I kicked him out, waiting another weak for his check to clear at the bank so he had money to leave and making another deal with him etc. that by the time I had resolved to do something about it - I was leaving our house with my then 3 year old son to live with my parents after he negotiated to end the lease early on the apartment (one day I came home and he said we had to be out of the apartment by the end of the month), no job, soon to sell his car because our account CLEANED out! He was and remains completely lost to heroin and I have no idea how he will get himself out - but if only at the very early stages I had been able to stop him......my life, my sons life and his life could be so increadibly different! Take a stand for your future and your marriage before its too late!
Dont dwell to much and take care!
Hi Charly:
I know exactly how you feel. My husband, too, is a heroin addict. He is now in recovery (taking suboxene and seeing a psychiatrist) - but you just never know when, and if, this will be the treatment that "works".
I really don't think you should be kicking yourself about getting him help in the early stages - it really is up to him. I have tried from the very beginning (5-6 years) to suggest different forms of treatment. He has been an inpatient (insurance covered this) treatment, abstinance, methadone, slowly weaning himself off (with great withdrawals) and he has also been in an inpatient (opposite coast from our home) - treatment which was very expensive ($20,000) - which we paid. Really, the person has to want it for themselves and I really think you shouldn't blame yourself for not getting him help earlier.
I hope that your husband will be in recovery one day.
Please take time for yourself and your son. Take care and don't dwell too much on this horrific disease.
Peace be with you, your son and your husband.
Therese
I know exactly how you feel. My husband, too, is a heroin addict. He is now in recovery (taking suboxene and seeing a psychiatrist) - but you just never know when, and if, this will be the treatment that "works".
I really don't think you should be kicking yourself about getting him help in the early stages - it really is up to him. I have tried from the very beginning (5-6 years) to suggest different forms of treatment. He has been an inpatient (insurance covered this) treatment, abstinance, methadone, slowly weaning himself off (with great withdrawals) and he has also been in an inpatient (opposite coast from our home) - treatment which was very expensive ($20,000) - which we paid. Really, the person has to want it for themselves and I really think you shouldn't blame yourself for not getting him help earlier.
I hope that your husband will be in recovery one day.
Please take time for yourself and your son. Take care and don't dwell too much on this horrific disease.
Peace be with you, your son and your husband.
Therese
Curious,
We are almost same situation. My hubby uses Meth. And as far as I know he spend about $3,000 or more month on drugs and who knows what else. I used to wonder too where is my hubby's money is going too. He makes alot but for some reason our bills are always back up and our rent and we are always broke. So when I through his bank account. And find out how much money is going in and out. So finally talked to him about it and he couldn't say anything. I got to convince him that i'm going to start handling the financial. So now he get $100.00 a week alowance and I always checking up on him, If his at work and his showing me his pay check now so i know how much over time he worked a day. Also I asked him how long he worked over time. So check what time he comes home that day. And on weekend he doesn't go anywhere unless i'm with him. I hate to do this to him but I totally lost my trust. We lost so much before he went to rehab 5 years ago. our house, our things and lots of money. So when i left him he put him self to rehab. And i was there the whole time to support him. When he got out we got back together. then a year later he went back, until now. he said he is not doing heavy drugs anymore. "Yeah Right" They lie so much. So everything he say to me I don't believe him. So I just have to be strong. Even though it hurt so bad, you have to be strong. Right now I'm going to start going to counseling & Alanon to keep away from being insane. we have one child his 14 years old now. And he haven't really spend time with him. So my son is starting to get angry with him. I don't want that to happen. So all i do is talked to my son and just keep explaining to him. He knows that his dad is doing drugs thats why i'm affraid that he might start doing it too. I have a daughter from my first and she got into it too before and she went to rehab the after my hubby got out. But thank god she didn't go back. So girl, just hang in there. And just keep going to the metting and keep reading this message board. Cause for some reason it helps me alot. And knowing that you are not the only one going through this kind a problem.
Thank you everybody for the support and putting your story on this message board.... God bless you all and please hang in there.
We are almost same situation. My hubby uses Meth. And as far as I know he spend about $3,000 or more month on drugs and who knows what else. I used to wonder too where is my hubby's money is going too. He makes alot but for some reason our bills are always back up and our rent and we are always broke. So when I through his bank account. And find out how much money is going in and out. So finally talked to him about it and he couldn't say anything. I got to convince him that i'm going to start handling the financial. So now he get $100.00 a week alowance and I always checking up on him, If his at work and his showing me his pay check now so i know how much over time he worked a day. Also I asked him how long he worked over time. So check what time he comes home that day. And on weekend he doesn't go anywhere unless i'm with him. I hate to do this to him but I totally lost my trust. We lost so much before he went to rehab 5 years ago. our house, our things and lots of money. So when i left him he put him self to rehab. And i was there the whole time to support him. When he got out we got back together. then a year later he went back, until now. he said he is not doing heavy drugs anymore. "Yeah Right" They lie so much. So everything he say to me I don't believe him. So I just have to be strong. Even though it hurt so bad, you have to be strong. Right now I'm going to start going to counseling & Alanon to keep away from being insane. we have one child his 14 years old now. And he haven't really spend time with him. So my son is starting to get angry with him. I don't want that to happen. So all i do is talked to my son and just keep explaining to him. He knows that his dad is doing drugs thats why i'm affraid that he might start doing it too. I have a daughter from my first and she got into it too before and she went to rehab the after my hubby got out. But thank god she didn't go back. So girl, just hang in there. And just keep going to the metting and keep reading this message board. Cause for some reason it helps me alot. And knowing that you are not the only one going through this kind a problem.
Thank you everybody for the support and putting your story on this message board.... God bless you all and please hang in there.
