i need i t find out how to do the wd cold turkey at home. i have a 3 yr old grandson that needs to be looked after while this is going on. i was told to take something to help me with the wds, like adivan. so i called my dr and she called me in some. then i was told to use valium that it works best. to take the valium to sleep stage then taper off each day for 4 days, and to take as many baths as possible to help with the pain. i was also told to put vinager in the hot bath, to help pull out the drugs and toxics. that the worst would be 36-72 hrs. that it should be over in 5-7 days. that on the 5th day make myself exercise some. also to take massive amounts of imodium ad for the runs. and to take
L-Tyrosine 500 mg (5000 to start) and vitiman B6 an hour before breakfast, but to keep taking the imodium ad because the L-Tyrosine will also give me the runs.THEN...................I have heard not to do it that it hurts like HELL!!!!!!! i know i will have stomach cramps, sweats, vomiting,restlessness, and diariahha. I just need to get off the things. I change the patch every 3 days as i am suppose to. but if i miss right on time i start acting like my avatar!!! but i know i can't if i wanted to. but then how can i expect a person to come to my house for god only knows how long? after all they have a life too!!!!!!!!!!
detox sucks. the times i have done it at home (many, many times) clonodine, xanax and a box of kleenex and immodium was my best combo. drink something like pedialyte that will help keep your blood chemistry in balance (gatorade is full of sugar and will dehydrate you worse in the long run) it is my opinion that you will need help with the young un, as i have always been unable to do any thing more than bed to bathroom. not even bathe for the first few days
good luck, i will pray for you
good luck, i will pray for you
also there will be no real distinction between xanax, ativan or valium as they are all benzodiazapines and do essentially the same thing, just be very careful with all of them because they are addictive as well.
question are u on a patch and if so cant the dr. titrate u down. if not the patch the hydros then u just have to do it it sucks i know but the first week is the worst. then the second gets easier every day now the patch and the pills are a hole diff. story i wouldnt ct it could be very dangerous i havent been here long but i am in day 11 of recovery and this place will help. i went to the dr and he gave me librium it didnt help at all but ativan should but only use them when needed cause the are very habit forming to. and as far as the child goes i was just like u but i chased her around the whole 1st week not good but i did do it but i am 28 too good luck! and we will support
What exactly did your doctor tell you about going off the patches and why did he just call a script in for Ativan after you called him for withdrawl? Did you talk about going off cold turkey with your medical problems, etc. Is he aware of all that and that you are just going to stop not wean off? Does he think this is okay? I'm just wondering because you were talking about your history and how you had talked with your physician and I though you had a plan and your doc should know what meds to give you for the withdrawl phase in order to help you unless he/she is not experienced with this. Is he the one who told you to do all these things or did you hear it somewhere else???
you need to be careful and really have a plan before you start.
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you need to be careful and really have a plan before you start.
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mandy, how long was the process? i take promethozine for nausia now would that work? i was also told to dring lemon juice for cramps and for not getting dehydrated. yeah i need this baby to be taken care of i dont want him to see me like this. the patch doesn't make me nausieated after too long in between changes if they are too long i just start feeling fatiuge real bad. i was to wear these for arthritis pain but they don't touch the pain. i went from vioxx, bextra, and celebrex to this patch. first 25, then 50, now 75. thanks for the prayers!!!!!!!! i can take all those i can get thanks so much!!!
My Dr. said valium is longer acting than xanax, so take that at night if you have it. Take xanax or valium during the day if you have to. I found that it helped with the feeling of crawling skin, but made me even more lethargic which was worse. Take baths to help with pain and cold sweats. Stretch all your muscles and try to breathe deep, do light yoga if you can. Please try to get help with your grandson. It took me a day and a half just to be able to feed my cats when I was trying to detox on my own. Try to get some help. Try to be strong. It's hard but worth it, that's what I keep trying to tell myself. let me know how you are doing.
I know you want off but it would be much better for you to wean down with the help of your doctor esp with your medical problems you have mentioned of arthritis, copd, etc. I would not do this c/t if I were you. I do not think it is a good idea to do this and take care of your grandson. I'm sorry. I know you do not want to hear this, but this is a very strong medication you are talking about. You need to be safe for you and your grandbaby's sake. While we are all here to support you we can't really tell you "how to" do it safely with your medical history. Plus for everyone as you can see how long it takes is a little bit different.
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when i went in and told my dr that i wanted off these things, she ask me how i wanted to do it. i told her i wanted to just go backwards( I DONT KNOW IF I WOULD WD THEN OR NOT) she said we could do that. but 4 patch changes ago they only lasted for 2 days. (the last 2 have been 3 days)she said we would have "hell" getting me off if they only last 2 days. i am suppose to go talk to a pain clinic again(a different one put me on them) to see what they want to do. I JUST WANT OFF BEFORE IT GETS TO BE TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!I took adivan before when i was late changing my patch and it worked pretty good!
I understand but that is not like going c/t I promise. Please talk to the other doctor and let them change you around the proper way. So it might take awhile, maybe they have to put you on something different they can wean down on but wouldn't you rather be safe than in some hospital???? Sometimes we can really hurt ourselves when we are older and yes I understand the impatience of it all. I have been there myself. I did not wait and I should have and I am lucky to be here to tell you about it. It was not with the patch. Please be very careful. This board can help you, give you ideas but truly you have conditions that deserve a physician to help you through so you don't really hurt yourself.
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Okay I promise not to harp on you anymore about this. I just keep getting these warning flags with you for some reason that tell me in your case you need a physician to walk you through it. Please strongly consider it before you start doing anything. I think it is safest for you and I have been in medicine for a long time.
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OKAY,,,,OKAY,,,, lol!! i will promise you one thing! i will wait to do anything till i talk to this other dr. on monday. i will give him an honest try. I am so confiussed as to WHY did i go from vioxx, celebrex, and brexta to MORPHINE!!?? it just doesnt make good sence to me! I was a addict yrs ago. my mother was shot by my step-father. so beleive me i LOST 2 yrs of my lif being addicted. i just don't want to get THERE!!! again. i do have COPD, bipolar, and PTSD. i'm on oxygen so i'm not too worried about not breathing during detox. BUT please don't get me wrong!!!!! i do appreciate you being concerned. That's more than i get here at home!!!!!!!!! i keep getting told,"HELL I COULD GO OFF THEM DAMN THINGS WITH NO PROBLEMS"! .........yeah makes me feel like s**t. i have always had to be a WONDERWOMAN!!
Whew, all this sweat was worth it. (smile) So take some deep breaths and talk to that doc. I was gonna ask if you were on O2 but it wouldn't have changed my thoughts so I didn't bother. Just take it easy. You can get off! You don't have to be an addict and on them all your life. Just be smart about it and do it the best way you can. Be honest with your doc. Tell him how long you've been on it, why, your past, your addiction, your fears, that you want off and you will do it c/t if noone will help you, tell him everything he needs to know to help you but listen to him, try to stay open and willingly express your desire to come up with a plan together. Most importantly be patient. You can do this and you will. You just don't need to jump the gun and wind up in some hospital with more health problems.
peace,
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peace,
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ok hun, thanks for talking to me!!! you made me take a deep breath!!! why was you wondering if i was on O2? this is kinda scary!!! lol !! i guess there are good people out there that understand what you are thinking, and how you feel. AGAIN i say thank you!!! i will let you know monday what we are doing to do, unless he won't do anything. that is exactlly what i was thinking if they didn't want to help me i would do it c/t. one way or the other. just courious??!! where are you from?
Well to be honest I was wondering because you have COPD and I wondered if it was bad enough that you needed oxygen. In copd they draw blood gas labs which I'm sure you are aware of. Anyway, you just made me start thinking with my medical brain about acidosis and withdrawl and how if you got into a panic or state of hyperventilation a bit how that could affect your bld values and breathing, blah blah blah. Are you alseep yet? lol. And I knew from reading your posts that if this doc isn't going to help you you will take matter into your own hands and do it alone which is why I say you need to tell him so he knows you mean business. What will you say if the doc says he thinks it best for you to be monitored a few days in rehab. to come off???
And if for some crazy reason you go it alone if you have any fear or concern along the way you just have someone take you to the ER okay?
Finally, I live in the mtn. of Colorado for now. Blue sky, rocky mtns. Beautiful.
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And if for some crazy reason you go it alone if you have any fear or concern along the way you just have someone take you to the ER okay?
Finally, I live in the mtn. of Colorado for now. Blue sky, rocky mtns. Beautiful.
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lol...i love colo. i use to live there.....Very beautiful... i will go in to rehab a "FEW" days if i need to , that will be ok. i think i would have someone to take me!!! you are right if they don't help me i WILL do it c/t on my own. i was in the medical field also, thats why i said i had O2, and said i would breath. i was thinking this through, beleive me, but i want off.. i will except anything but , i think you need to stay on them!!!!!!!
you have a good night,
it's been a pleasure talking to you!
Night, Barbara
you have a good night,
it's been a pleasure talking to you!
Night, Barbara
Barbara,
You have every right in the world to get off them!!!! You know I'm with ya. Just want you to do it the right way for you. Everyone is different. You will probably do better overall. Just do it wisely. Even if it takes a little longer. You are worth it and sounds like you've been through enough already! You got the goal out there and you are on target so as long as you are getting there and you know it you will be there. I''m glad you are getting off. Your personality isn't too hard to figure out if I'm having a hard time telling you to wait til monday for the doc. I know if he says you need to wait a little longer you are D O N E. That's why I said that. You just need to get that through to the doc and be prepared for what if he says how about we monitor you a few days? Don't wanna mess up your acid/base balance or your health in anyway while doing this.
It's been nice talking with you also. Let us know how it goes and I'll check back.
peace,
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You have every right in the world to get off them!!!! You know I'm with ya. Just want you to do it the right way for you. Everyone is different. You will probably do better overall. Just do it wisely. Even if it takes a little longer. You are worth it and sounds like you've been through enough already! You got the goal out there and you are on target so as long as you are getting there and you know it you will be there. I''m glad you are getting off. Your personality isn't too hard to figure out if I'm having a hard time telling you to wait til monday for the doc. I know if he says you need to wait a little longer you are D O N E. That's why I said that. You just need to get that through to the doc and be prepared for what if he says how about we monitor you a few days? Don't wanna mess up your acid/base balance or your health in anyway while doing this.
It's been nice talking with you also. Let us know how it goes and I'll check back.
peace,
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and of course it's scary you nut!!!
but you will be alright!
but you will be alright!
Cuddles
Hello,i feel for ya and cold trukey is a very hard thing to do.Many here have done it.i have myself only to fell everytime.One time went 2 months and still felt weak and tried all the time.I call the flordia center that takes you in for a day and says you will come out a new person.They said the day before i would arive and they would give me Ultracets for w/ds .I didnt do it i couldnt afford it.but,when i went cold trukey at home i used ultracets for the w/ds and it really help me.I used them for two weeks and then i was out.I know they are addictied also.I dont know what you were on maybe not ultra's .I took 4 to 5 at a time and it help with the sweatings and and of the some w/ds it helped keep me com.Also i used some on the other things everyone has said.Im on suboxone now and i thank god i found it .Hope u are doing ok,Good luck.crystal
Hello,i feel for ya and cold trukey is a very hard thing to do.Many here have done it.i have myself only to fell everytime.One time went 2 months and still felt weak and tried all the time.I call the flordia center that takes you in for a day and says you will come out a new person.They said the day before i would arive and they would give me Ultracets for w/ds .I didnt do it i couldnt afford it.but,when i went cold trukey at home i used ultracets for the w/ds and it really help me.I used them for two weeks and then i was out.I know they are addictied also.I dont know what you were on maybe not ultra's .I took 4 to 5 at a time and it help with the sweatings and and of the some w/ds it helped keep me com.Also i used some on the other things everyone has said.Im on suboxone now and i thank god i found it .Hope u are doing ok,Good luck.crystal
