I stop tomorrow...well today as it is really late. I am scared as hell!!!!! I am currently on about half a mg to 1 mg per day depending on the day. I have been very scared to stop because when I haven't had my sub for say 24hrs sometimes less like 12 I start to feel some pain. Not very bad pain but still pain. This makes me feel like the wd will be rough.
Could any one who has detoxed from sub tell me who bad it is compared to regular wd?
Like on a scale of one to ten.
Also tell me how hard it was for you
I really need some good news..lol...but plz be as honest as possible don't sugar coat any thing I want the truth.
thanks to all who reply
Hi there, for me it was not bad at all, maybe a 2 out of 10. I took them for about 2 mths... started at 8mgs a day.
I don't have any real pain issues, so maybe that's why it was not so bad for me.
So that's my honest answer, hope it helps
I don't have any real pain issues, so maybe that's why it was not so bad for me.
So that's my honest answer, hope it helps
Don't panic when you start to feel like something will happen. Some of the times that I've cut back or stopped, I've felt like that whole violent withdrawl thing was going to start, and it didn't. If you are following doctor's orders, and you've tapered reasonably, it should be fine. Plus you can always call your doctor if it gets bad right? ....I would say expect it to be a little weird, and please be on guard for anything that would cause you to use dope. Many people report sleeplessness-(I never had that symptom but it appears to be very common--worth calling the doctor about if it is a problem), lethargy & fatique at some point, and some depression. ALL of it should be gone after about a month, and exercise when you can make yourself do it, is like a miracle-cure for bupe withdrawl in my opinion. If you come-down with any unusual symptoms during the next 14 days or so, chances are it is related to withdrawl from the bupe, anything serious is worth consulting a physician, hopefully it will be mild.
~~~best wishes~~ Please let us know how it goes for you.
~~~best wishes~~ Please let us know how it goes for you.
Good Morning , Wanna It does get better with time ,I believe that after the 2nd week the symptoms get much easier to take, IT DOES GET BETTER>>>Do not USE!!!! the thought will come over you but DON"T!!!! it's been about 6 weeks for me I stil have trouble sleeping ,but that's nothing compared to the other,,,, you can do it, if I can anyone can I have always thought of myself as wimpy... as far as pain and suffering,, but I have done it and you can too!! life is better, not worring about where the next one is, or counting pills for the days ect....I cannot say enough times it does go away..and it does get better with TIME....Good luck...j
how did you wean from your suboxone....I have been on it now for almost a year and doing great...it gave me life, my kids and kept me from loosing my career that I worked so hard for.....we have been at the beach over the holiday weekend and my pocket book was stolen, which I was not too worried about since I dont carry my wallet or checkbook in it...but then i realized my suboxone and provigil were in there along w/ my effexor....so today is tuesday and we just got back and I have no had any since thur. night....so 4 days...but I feel horrible....I figured I would call the doc in the am...I already called my refill in I Just could not get up the energy to go and get it.........I pick it up in the am....I was just wandering if anyone has specifically weaned on a particluar schedule...I started out on 8 mg twice a day....well I was taking 30mg oxycodone's about 5 - 7 x's a day......I am now down to 2mg in am and was doing wonderful...I am just so tired, have severe stomach cramps and very moody...I take it that it is not time to wean completely off.....since, I am having mild withdraws...like I had at a much higher level when I attempted to stop cold turkey when my wondergul insurance company decided that they would not pay for inpatient detox for opiates.....any suggestions would be greatley appreciated......I have two small children who have to keep going and since I am their only support I have to keep going......that was the whole reason for stopping them....well that I did not want to lose my nursing license that I worked so hard for......thanks for suboxone...I finally made it at least halfway through,........
for the poster above -
First thing I would do if you can't get more sub yet is go get some immodium has to be the brand kind. Take like 3 tablets, it helps with the w/d. I tried it for the first time today and it works!!!!!
As for my taper... I started on sub january 25th 2006, I was taking about 5 80's a day!!! 80mg at a time.
The doctor started my out on subutex 8mg twice per day. When I got down to about 12mgs per day I went to sub.
I seen the doc once a week, I would start a new taper every time I seen him I believe it went like this
16mgs - week 1
12mgs - week 2
8mgs - week 3
8mgs - week 4 hard trouble that week with the taper so he kept dose the same
6mgs - week 5
4mgs - week 6
3mgs - week 7
2mgs - week 8
1mg - week 9
.5mg - week 10
here is where it gets tricky...after week 8 I didn't see the doc agian. He just wanted money...he can only have 30 at a time so after 8 weeks he graduates you even if you're not totally off but makes sure you have enough for the full taper plus some.
well since I had extra and had a real hard time at .5mg per day I stayed at 1mg most days some days only .5 if I felt good. well I'm about out bacilly I am out. the last few days I only did .5mg just to get ready for the w/d.
I am currently only about 35 hours since my last dose and it hasn't been that bad....yet
Hopefully it doesn't get real bad...the immodium helps for sure..get that if you can't get any sub
First thing I would do if you can't get more sub yet is go get some immodium has to be the brand kind. Take like 3 tablets, it helps with the w/d. I tried it for the first time today and it works!!!!!
As for my taper... I started on sub january 25th 2006, I was taking about 5 80's a day!!! 80mg at a time.
The doctor started my out on subutex 8mg twice per day. When I got down to about 12mgs per day I went to sub.
I seen the doc once a week, I would start a new taper every time I seen him I believe it went like this
16mgs - week 1
12mgs - week 2
8mgs - week 3
8mgs - week 4 hard trouble that week with the taper so he kept dose the same
6mgs - week 5
4mgs - week 6
3mgs - week 7
2mgs - week 8
1mg - week 9
.5mg - week 10
here is where it gets tricky...after week 8 I didn't see the doc agian. He just wanted money...he can only have 30 at a time so after 8 weeks he graduates you even if you're not totally off but makes sure you have enough for the full taper plus some.
well since I had extra and had a real hard time at .5mg per day I stayed at 1mg most days some days only .5 if I felt good. well I'm about out bacilly I am out. the last few days I only did .5mg just to get ready for the w/d.
I am currently only about 35 hours since my last dose and it hasn't been that bad....yet
Hopefully it doesn't get real bad...the immodium helps for sure..get that if you can't get any sub
Hi everyone,
I have just stopped taking subs six days ago and I have to say it was nowhere near as bad as I thought it was going to be. I switched from methadone over to subutex last christmas and was started at 8mg per day. Towards the end of the taper I stayed at 1mg for one month then .5mg for three weeks, then I skipped every second day for a week before finally stopping. I needed immodium for the first three days and I took a low dose of clonodine before bed for four nights. For me the worst part has been lack of sleep due to restless legs at night, but thank goodness that has now passed. I do have a bit lower energy than usual but other than that it really hasn`t been too bad. Certainly nowhere near as bad as I thought it would be, and definitely a thousand times easier than regular withdrawal. So to anyone wanting to taper off my advice would be to get down to as low a dose as you can and stay there until you are comfortable then just stop. I think most people will be surprised how much easier it is to wean off subs than off their DOC.... Ros.
I have just stopped taking subs six days ago and I have to say it was nowhere near as bad as I thought it was going to be. I switched from methadone over to subutex last christmas and was started at 8mg per day. Towards the end of the taper I stayed at 1mg for one month then .5mg for three weeks, then I skipped every second day for a week before finally stopping. I needed immodium for the first three days and I took a low dose of clonodine before bed for four nights. For me the worst part has been lack of sleep due to restless legs at night, but thank goodness that has now passed. I do have a bit lower energy than usual but other than that it really hasn`t been too bad. Certainly nowhere near as bad as I thought it would be, and definitely a thousand times easier than regular withdrawal. So to anyone wanting to taper off my advice would be to get down to as low a dose as you can and stay there until you are comfortable then just stop. I think most people will be surprised how much easier it is to wean off subs than off their DOC.... Ros.
Guys I am currently at about 2 and a half days with no sub. I jumped off after being at about .5mg for a few weeks. Every now and then I would do 1mg if I needed it.
I am sooooo happy right now, I had flu like symtoms day 1 and day 2 but not as bad day 2. IMMODIUM IS A LIFE SAVER!!!!! It does help alot!!!!
Guys it has been so easy for me compared to what I thought it was going to be I feel like God did this for me...and I am not even really religous!!!
The main thing is the hurting legs...it hasn't been there....I think the immodium has been a big part of that.
I am actually afraid I will all of the sudden wake up in alot of pain on day 3 or 4 but considering I could never even go 24hours without my sub before. I have hope that is will not get any worse than what I have already went thru.
If I do get thru this I will come back to the board as much as I can, to help who ever I can.
I am sooooo happy right now, I had flu like symtoms day 1 and day 2 but not as bad day 2. IMMODIUM IS A LIFE SAVER!!!!! It does help alot!!!!
Guys it has been so easy for me compared to what I thought it was going to be I feel like God did this for me...and I am not even really religous!!!
The main thing is the hurting legs...it hasn't been there....I think the immodium has been a big part of that.
I am actually afraid I will all of the sudden wake up in alot of pain on day 3 or 4 but considering I could never even go 24hours without my sub before. I have hope that is will not get any worse than what I have already went thru.
If I do get thru this I will come back to the board as much as I can, to help who ever I can.
congratulations on your success.
hang in there.
you've made a really good decision. you CAN be happy without suboxone, you can clean your body of all opiates , opiate antagonist, whatever.... and you will finally get your life back.
you may get a lil tired, and a lil fluish, but there are many many people who have tapered the way you have ... and been successful in their recovery.
do you have support? do you go to meetings? you have to work on yourself now, to stay clean. i used suboxone for a very rapid detox at home .. it is an amazing drug - but being 100% is the way to be.
congratulations, you should be proud of yourself. you can do this.
hang in there.
you've made a really good decision. you CAN be happy without suboxone, you can clean your body of all opiates , opiate antagonist, whatever.... and you will finally get your life back.
you may get a lil tired, and a lil fluish, but there are many many people who have tapered the way you have ... and been successful in their recovery.
do you have support? do you go to meetings? you have to work on yourself now, to stay clean. i used suboxone for a very rapid detox at home .. it is an amazing drug - but being 100% is the way to be.
congratulations, you should be proud of yourself. you can do this.
does anyone know what immodium does to help with the withdrawl symptoms other than prevent diarrhea?.....I just wandered.....clonidine is marketed for htn...etc.....until I attempted to detox on my own last my, I had no idea that it would assist w/ blocker those neuroreceptors that make you want the opiates, thank god I had a pcp who knew what he was doing....since I could not get into rehab....due to the lack of experience or may I should say lack of understanding.....by my insurance company who stated that they did not cover detox for opiate withdrawl.....unfortunately I work for the other side of their buisness....also as a well known professional in the health care field...you have a less choices than others who dont know the health care community....anyways....sorry for dragging on...they just made me so mad that I will never support UBH, even if I do work for the parent company....oohhh..should I say that....I had to go with out my subs this weekend at the beach when my pocketbook was stolen...and my the time we got home, my legs were hurting and I was so tired.....I have not felt that way in a long time......that is what scares me about weaning from the sub......thank goddness I have a good doc....I will be on the subs a year in aug....actually aug. sixteen....I took my last perc....well actually my last five perc...at lunch that day and took the sub that afternoon...and have not had any problems....its great to have my life back and not have to worry about going to get more pills.....thanks for all the suggestions....my doc. stated to stay on them until I felt ready....even though I felt like crap this weekend...it never crossed my mind to take my friends percs who takes them for serious medical issues...I could not have done that with out them....if anyone who has taken subs for a year or longer and is now off of them has any suggestions please let me know....thanks
sorry.....I did not mean to explain that much...one of the side effects of provigil I guess....it makes talk and talk.....one thing that I have learned as an addict and dealing with addicts every day in the recovery period as a health care provider...is that we all make mistakes....and I TRULY BELIEVE that addiction is a disease...it is no different than diabetes...or having blue eyes....( I know you dont get blue eyes from a disease)....it is genetically linked....like I told my Dad several months ago...when we had a discussion about our family and talked about family members I had never met or met only a few times.....It sure would have been nice to know that they were all either alcoholics or drug addicts....sure explains a lot of my problems.....you have to face you problems and find ways to control and deal with them...other than seeking drugs to cope.....well except for Marijuanna (?)...dont get me started on that......
Could i but n and ask a question i live in the uk nd we get immodium but it is for the runs should i say it stops you from going to the toilet all the time is it the same stuff in the states thanks it would be great if you could answer me thanks sue
yes...same stuff...stops you from having the runs but for some reason it works very well for w/d. I took it for the first 3 days to help curd w/d and it really did work great!!! I know it isn't meant for w/d but I have already put some much bad stuff in my body (like mad amounts of pills) I wasn't worried about taking that stuff for a few days rather I had the runs or not (which I didn't by the way)
I'm on day 4 feeling great!!!! A few rough spots today but nothing to bad. Also take some vitamins and some energy drinks help get you thru those first few days as well.
I'm on day 4 feeling great!!!! A few rough spots today but nothing to bad. Also take some vitamins and some energy drinks help get you thru those first few days as well.
p.s. I am not some crazy person who just figured this out...the immodium thing has been posted on many other detox message boards.
Hello i have been on suboxone for 3 years. It did save my life! But I have decided to move and I will not be able to see my WONDERFUL DOCTOR! Hes has helped me so much. I was taking 3 8's a day 24 mg a day. I tried to taper my self going from 24 mg to 10 in a week, NOT GOOD!! i was sooo sick. I called Him and now we have a proper taper program that is going to last 40 days or so, i hope it works.. I was on Methadone for 2 years and coming of that was pure HELL!! I'll never forget it I don't think this will be quite as bad, But I have had a large dose for quite some time!! That's what worries me!! I am on 16 mg now,. and go to 14 mg in 3 days and so on. I should be done with the taper in July, July 8th or so, but I am scared, I have 2 jobs and I can't be sick!! I pray to god that he helps me through this, because I have been through enough hell in my life! I have a script of klonopin as well, to help me sleep. That may help, they say benzos do help!! I have tried that Klonodine s***, that does nothing!! You get adivan in most treatment places that are good. I hope this works out for me, because this is my last chance, I will never pick up an opiate again, i will not go through this s*** ever again!! Its no life having to go to a clincic, or be tied to a medicine that you can only get in your home town. I do recomend suboxone to any one new to treatment, it does work, and it helps with cravings, its alot better than Methadone!!! I just hope Im ok these next 4 weeks!! Ill check in . Thanks
Kerry
Kerry
