What would you do? If there were no strings attached, if no one knew that you had them....
The only reason I'm curious is that, no matter how strong our recovery, I wonder if faced with a situation like this, what most of us would do. I know what I think I would LIKE to do, but really? Am I that strong? So many of us are tested every day and faced with situations with drugs that it boggles my mind how many of us can stay clean and sober. It's like the alcoholic...how do they walk into a store? Knowing that they can just buy it and walk out. No one would know. Of course, the alcoholic would know and hopefully thier sobriety is just so important to them that they wouldn't even think about it. But, it's the temptation that I'm talking about....sometimes my brain works really funny so I apologize if none of this makes sense. I would just like other's opinions.
Cowgirl
Yay! I'm the first vote.
I would flush them. No ifs, ands, or buts. If they belonged to someone in my house and they had a legitimate reason to take them that's one thing but to just have them laying around? No way. I would hear them calling me even after being clean this long. I wouldn't tempt myself. I value my sobriety too much.
I would flush them. No ifs, ands, or buts. If they belonged to someone in my house and they had a legitimate reason to take them that's one thing but to just have them laying around? No way. I would hear them calling me even after being clean this long. I wouldn't tempt myself. I value my sobriety too much.
That's what I meant...they don't belong to anyone, no one would know that you had them.
I would like to think that I would flush them too without giving it too much thought. It's funny though because my addict says, well, just put them away for awhile, someone might need them...I actually had that thought. Yikes.
I would like to think that I would flush them too without giving it too much thought. It's funny though because my addict says, well, just put them away for awhile, someone might need them...I actually had that thought. Yikes.
Yikes is right. I believe the principle of the first step is honesty? Most importantly self honesty? So I would have to be very honest with myself and know that if I had them I would take them. The last time I saw a xan my stomach still gave that little flippy flop. I do not have any reason to have pills around me. I am not cured. I am always an addict. One is all it would take for me and I'd be off and running. I've proven that in the past so I can honestly say no, none for me. The funny thing is I have absolutely no desire to take an opiate or a benzo. Or a drink or anything. For this addict, that is a miracle.
Edit to say: we won't talk about cigarettes though.
Edit to say: we won't talk about cigarettes though.
Ok, we won't talk about cigs. Congrats on your 6 weeks though...
Self honesty is it. It's what everything comes down too. You can talk a mile a minute but if in your head, you aren't honest with yourself, you're screwed. Having to take those pain meds this past couple of weeks really f*cked with my head. I started having using dreams again. It's so insane.
Self honesty is it. It's what everything comes down too. You can talk a mile a minute but if in your head, you aren't honest with yourself, you're screwed. Having to take those pain meds this past couple of weeks really f*cked with my head. I started having using dreams again. It's so insane.
Since I've been taking this chantix stuff I have been having using dreams every night. The only time I have them now is on this stuff or the patch. So every night I am using and smoking and by the time I wake up I am tired of chasing pills, picking up white chips, lying, feeling guilty and all the other wierd stuff dreams can make you do. But I sure wake up wanting to smoke. Sheesh. Then it goes away but for a while there those mornings were a b****. How do you feel when you have using dreams after being clean this long?
Definitely get rid of them...if they were prescribed to me for legit reasons...ei....heart surgery..thats different....that would be tricky though. Its not like having hubby dole them out to me would work...lol...man I am having flashbacks....I guess I would have to find someone that could hold them and give them to me when and if I needed......
Opiates do have a place for pain relief....of the most serious type I believe....they actually make pain worse after a period of time....things that I thought I needed a class 3 narcotic for is easily taken care of with a few extra strength Tylenol
Opiates do have a place for pain relief....of the most serious type I believe....they actually make pain worse after a period of time....things that I thought I needed a class 3 narcotic for is easily taken care of with a few extra strength Tylenol
I can't think of a rational way why I would have a bottle of pills?
If I was given a bottle of pills that would mean that I consented recieving them and would probably mean that I was planning to relapse.
I'm probably over analyzing this.LOL
If I was given a bottle of pills that would mean that I consented recieving them and would probably mean that I was planning to relapse.
I'm probably over analyzing this.LOL
Been there did that learned & grew from it.I would in a heartbeat tell & give them to someone.As some know I do have medical conditions & thankfully the Sub I take helps control the pain I get with these conditions.But I also know that to be true to my recovery,to be true to myself I would need to stay honest.Therefore I would NOT allow myself the chance to abuse them.
Chances are Id let my mother who lives down the street from me hold them.I wouldnt keep them here with me.I know THAT much about myself.
molly
Chances are Id let my mother who lives down the street from me hold them.I wouldnt keep them here with me.I know THAT much about myself.
molly
12 Stepper - Dreams are usually the release of something in our subconscience. I was once told to think of something I did NOT want to dream about shortly before going to sleep. That thing is then in your conscience and very much out there in the open for thoughts. Try thinking of pills tonight when you get in bed. Just for a moment think "ok I am tired of dreaming about pills and the problems Ive had with them and any preoccupation I may have with them. Let me dream of pleasant things tonight that have nothing to do with my addictions. Let me dream happy, happy dreams of relaxation and love and all good things like that only". Give it a shot. It has worked for me.
These "so called" pills aren't for pain. They were just there. I just wanted input as to what you would do if you found them and there were no strings attached. You didn't go get them, ask for them etc, they were just there, in front of you. I know, it's totally silly and not very rational, just curious what people would do. I guess I'm trying to see what people would do when thier sobriety is threatend.
Kat...I woke up feeling so gross. I've been so down these last couple of days that having a using dream totally tripped me out. In the dream I was so high and kept finding pills everywhere. I woke up in a cold sweat.
Jesus, I need a meeting.
Kat...I woke up feeling so gross. I've been so down these last couple of days that having a using dream totally tripped me out. In the dream I was so high and kept finding pills everywhere. I woke up in a cold sweat.
Jesus, I need a meeting.
It's interesting that more than 1/3 said take the whole bottle. Is it because people can't trust themselves? Do we have a lot of lurkers? I'm kind of surprised by that. I chose tell someone because I would probably give them away. I've never flushed anything. I don't know why but I would feel wasteful??
Lurkers or people who have an easier time being honest anonymously.
Lisa
My choice wasnt even in there..if they were prescribed FOR me, Id keep them and take as needed hopefully...if i started getting that " its time for Oprah..ill make some nice Earl Grey and catch a buzz with a couple of pain pills...id like to think that thought alone woul make me flush them, but i have to be honest and say that there is a good chance id "test" the effect at least once, and THEN flush them...
If they were NOT my pills, id flush immediately...Id have to assume i was given them cus i wouldnt go out and get an RX even if i thought i could..im too happy to be out of that cycle once and for all...
Also dont know anyone that would give me pain pills, and Lord knows i didnt have any in the toe of my stocking..lol..good poll though..very interesting..
Hope your feeling well...did you flush yours as per plan???
Hugs
Ali
My choice wasnt even in there..if they were prescribed FOR me, Id keep them and take as needed hopefully...if i started getting that " its time for Oprah..ill make some nice Earl Grey and catch a buzz with a couple of pain pills...id like to think that thought alone woul make me flush them, but i have to be honest and say that there is a good chance id "test" the effect at least once, and THEN flush them...
If they were NOT my pills, id flush immediately...Id have to assume i was given them cus i wouldnt go out and get an RX even if i thought i could..im too happy to be out of that cycle once and for all...
Also dont know anyone that would give me pain pills, and Lord knows i didnt have any in the toe of my stocking..lol..good poll though..very interesting..
Hope your feeling well...did you flush yours as per plan???
Hugs
Ali
Lisa,ive had the pills here in my house the whole 5 months ive been clean,due to my husbands back pain and then surgery.He still has them here,and im being 100% honest when i say,it doesnt tempt me at all.Twice...i had a quick thought about how easy it would be,but i quickly realized what life would be like if i did it!Many of you probably think im full of bs,but im telling the absolute truth,i have no desire to take them,and havent had the desire.Maybe im strange or whatever,but i just dont want them and i have had plenty of stress that could would should trigger a use,but i havent done it...yet...and highly doubt i will,ever again.~KIM
Thanks for your honesty Kim...I am in awe of anyone who can have pills within thier reach. When my son had surgery, my husband kept the pills, I never saw them. I suppose if I really wanted to, I could of looked for them and believe me, when I want something, there's not much that could stand in my way. I didn't want too. That time.
Truthfully, this was an imaginary bottle of pills that I was asking about. If you just woke up one day and there they were. No strings, didn't belong to anyone, etc....I should of been more clear when I started the poll.
Ali doll, yes I did flush them like we talked about. They are gone and out of my life. Really pissed the dr off that I did it without his knowlegde, he apparently had a different idea as to how I would come off of them but I was done. It took an email from a very wise man for me to realize that I had to listen to my gut. I was too close to wanting to take them rather than needing too. Best part is, it's behind me and I can move on from here.
Truthfully, this was an imaginary bottle of pills that I was asking about. If you just woke up one day and there they were. No strings, didn't belong to anyone, etc....I should of been more clear when I started the poll.
Ali doll, yes I did flush them like we talked about. They are gone and out of my life. Really pissed the dr off that I did it without his knowlegde, he apparently had a different idea as to how I would come off of them but I was done. It took an email from a very wise man for me to realize that I had to listen to my gut. I was too close to wanting to take them rather than needing too. Best part is, it's behind me and I can move on from here.
lisa,i understand the imaginery scenerio,but for me,its not imaginery,its real,and yes,there would be some consequences to pay(with my husband)but nothing i couldnt handle if i really wanted to take his pills.
Elim once made a statement i truly believe,though alot, if not most of you ,wouldnt.
An alcoholic has to live with alcohol all around,i need to learn to live with doc within hands reach,i dont want to be clean by default,i think thats how "he" elim described it.I truly believe that,and for me...its fine,im fine? Maybe not the norm,but then again i never did fit in the norm mold,good topic~KIM
Elim once made a statement i truly believe,though alot, if not most of you ,wouldnt.
An alcoholic has to live with alcohol all around,i need to learn to live with doc within hands reach,i dont want to be clean by default,i think thats how "he" elim described it.I truly believe that,and for me...its fine,im fine? Maybe not the norm,but then again i never did fit in the norm mold,good topic~KIM
I dont think I could ever flush a pill, not even one, so Id rule out flushing them. If I went so far as to take a few out, id take them all, so Id rule that out too. I would never trust myself with a full bottle around (I may be stronger than that but Im not willing to find out) So, if a bottle of pills "magically" appeared, I would most likely tell my husband immediately. Telling him is the same as having them ripped out of my hands.
I just got thinking about my statement about not fitting into the norm mold...let me explain...i in no way mean im different as far as addiction goes,no way!!!! But...im just saying,feeling how i do about being around the pills...that... being around them does not make me have urges or cravings,i guess ,is just different from the way alot of you feel.
I look at it this way.whether they are right here in my home at hands reach or at the end of my arms reach(telephone) it doesnt really matter either way to me.I want to stay clean,and i concentrate most days all day on how great my life is now...and how it sucked then...
Wanted to explain,im not saying im specila,different,stronger,and any other thing,im an addict through and through just like the rest of you.~KIM
I look at it this way.whether they are right here in my home at hands reach or at the end of my arms reach(telephone) it doesnt really matter either way to me.I want to stay clean,and i concentrate most days all day on how great my life is now...and how it sucked then...
Wanted to explain,im not saying im specila,different,stronger,and any other thing,im an addict through and through just like the rest of you.~KIM
Now I understand.
If I came across a bottle of pills I forgot I had...........BTW,.that never happened to me.I always ate every last one.
Flush immediately .I wouldn't waste the time calling my sponsor before I flushed them,that would be 5 more minutes in my house.
I know this may be viewed as a weakness but I don't keep liquor in my house either.
If I want to drink,I've got to get in the car,drive to the liquor store and buy the stuff.In the amount of time it takes to do that,I hope that God will intervene.
I always like that line in the big book....we will recoil as if it is a hot flame or something like that.
If other people wish to drink,it won't be at my house.I will meet them at a restaraunt.That doesn't faze me.
If I came across a bottle of pills I forgot I had...........BTW,.that never happened to me.I always ate every last one.
Flush immediately .I wouldn't waste the time calling my sponsor before I flushed them,that would be 5 more minutes in my house.
I know this may be viewed as a weakness but I don't keep liquor in my house either.
If I want to drink,I've got to get in the car,drive to the liquor store and buy the stuff.In the amount of time it takes to do that,I hope that God will intervene.
I always like that line in the big book....we will recoil as if it is a hot flame or something like that.
If other people wish to drink,it won't be at my house.I will meet them at a restaraunt.That doesn't faze me.
