Hi,
i was wondering if someone could help me in trying to indentify what drug the ex bf might be abusing (although the old inner red flags are flapping strongly despite his protestations to the contrary)
i have known him for over 7 years....he has shot heroin for over 30 years but claims to be 5 years clean from it (but that is another tall story too long for me to get into right now) suffice it to say i have become quite familiar with the symptoms of his using heroin.
of late i have been a bit thrown.....i don't see him that often but a couple of weeks ago he was ringing down my phone and pounding on door and front windows to get in touch with me. He looked terrible...says he lost 10 pounds in one week but what struck me was how much older he looked. He had a couple of bruises on the inside of his arms (not where his old scarred track marks are)...and these scattered little pin type dots on his outer arms as well as sores on his legs and feet that he said he couldn't remember how he got them.
his teeth are getting worse and when i met him over 7 years ago he had really nice teeth despite the fact that he had been shooting heroin for 30 years and couldn't afford dental care..
he complained about feeling really dried out as if all the moisture had been sucked right out of him and he wasn't smoking pot like a house on fire like he normally does.....
the strangest symptom displayed was that he kept talking about how he had to go to a therapist and talk to him about these 'murderous' thoughts he was having about certain people if he got really sick....he talked about my writing his memoirs for him in the event of his 'dying'.
he still swore he was using no drugs nor slept with anyone and stayed the night but the first thing he did was throw up in the morning....he subsequently went to the VA Hospital and blood was drawn but they found nothing wrong with him....of course i wasn't there.
about a week later he came over acting extremely horny and very sexually aggressive which is unusual for him...A)because we are no longer together B) when he was on heroin he had no sexual drive whatsoever.
in the interim i have only seen him once or twice and he is so moody and every little thing irritates him....and every question or remark is met with suspicion or taken out of context....and he is not being sexual at all..
at one point in his 'drug career' he used to shoot coke but he said he had to stop it because he developed psychosis from it....but he told me about some really bad 'kicks' from heroin he experienced (especially in prison) and that never stopped him from picking it up again...even after finding out he had Hep C..
he goes to AA but he still smokes pot and hangs out with old
drug dealing and using friends but maintains he is 5 years heroin
free....but all of sudden he has a cell phone that he never wanted
or could afford nor wanted anybody to contact him before
something is not right and it doesn't feel like heroin
i don't know anything about the 'speedy' type drugs
or there signs of abuse
thanx for listening MARY
Mary you have clean time and you know what is up. Stop playing so close to the fire.. you are the only one that keeps this alive. Do something for yourself today
tropical1,
thanx for replying but i have clean time accrued from an alcohol/pot addiction and although i made it my business to educate myself about heroin addiction as to help me understand my ex bf's addiction...i still am rather in the dark when it comes to the signs and symptoms of a crack or meth addiction and it was suggested to me that maybe these are drugs that he might be abusing at the moment...yet still maintaining that he is heroin free.
i never stated that although we would never be a couple again that i don't think of his welfare from time to time and of course he probably isn't concern with mine but that is the type of person i am.....i would not like to see anyone die needlessly from their addiction no matter who they are...and i would mourn their loss all the same.
if anybody has any other insight to offer on my original thread
i would be most appreciative
MARY
thanx for replying but i have clean time accrued from an alcohol/pot addiction and although i made it my business to educate myself about heroin addiction as to help me understand my ex bf's addiction...i still am rather in the dark when it comes to the signs and symptoms of a crack or meth addiction and it was suggested to me that maybe these are drugs that he might be abusing at the moment...yet still maintaining that he is heroin free.
i never stated that although we would never be a couple again that i don't think of his welfare from time to time and of course he probably isn't concern with mine but that is the type of person i am.....i would not like to see anyone die needlessly from their addiction no matter who they are...and i would mourn their loss all the same.
if anybody has any other insight to offer on my original thread
i would be most appreciative
MARY
It is hard to say definitively he is using meth, many of the symptoms you describe coul'd just be what they are, poor health, years of drug abuse, taking poor care of oneself.
That being said, many meth users get "bugs" ...little bumps that they pick and scratch at until they have sores all over their body. The severity varies widely from user to user from none to a body completely covered in sores. Weight loss and "aging" quickly also very strong signs of meth abuse.
Teeth going bad is also a sign of meth use. They don't call it "meth mouth" for no reason. Some meth users do manage to take very good care of their teeth and avoid it, but most have their teeth rot very quickly. People who smoke meth seem to get the worst and fastest damage.
Meth causes excessive perspiration, Staying properly hydrated is a must, and usually not met properly. Most users of meth prefer to drink sweet sugary things. Soda does not really hydrate well, Drinking of enough water doesn't happen because it's too plain. Not very many meth addicts think of their health. Severe dehydration can cause vomiting, amongst the whole host of toxic chemicals used to make meth and can still be in the final product. Everyone thinks they can cook meth, recipes are easy to be found. That doesn't mean they really can produce a clean product. A lot of what is passed off as meth is full of toxic crap.
Meth can cause "sexual overdrive" that is one of the draws of meth, people think meth makes sex so much better, it might have that effect for a bit, but usually ends up with the user not being able to get it up, Erectile dysfunction is a problem for most long term users. But yes, at first it could explain his sexual vigor,
Meth will cause moodiness, aggressive behaviour, tho the physical withdrawals are minimal compared to heroin, the phsychological addiction is a tough nut to crack. Hanging with drug using buddies is a sure fire way to stay addicted to whatever his drug is. Most addicts who get clean avoid all contact with people who use, or even remind them of their using days.
I hope that answers all your questions, Tropical1 is right, there isn't much you can do other than wash your hands of him, live your life and not let him drag your life down. good luck
That being said, many meth users get "bugs" ...little bumps that they pick and scratch at until they have sores all over their body. The severity varies widely from user to user from none to a body completely covered in sores. Weight loss and "aging" quickly also very strong signs of meth abuse.
Teeth going bad is also a sign of meth use. They don't call it "meth mouth" for no reason. Some meth users do manage to take very good care of their teeth and avoid it, but most have their teeth rot very quickly. People who smoke meth seem to get the worst and fastest damage.
Meth causes excessive perspiration, Staying properly hydrated is a must, and usually not met properly. Most users of meth prefer to drink sweet sugary things. Soda does not really hydrate well, Drinking of enough water doesn't happen because it's too plain. Not very many meth addicts think of their health. Severe dehydration can cause vomiting, amongst the whole host of toxic chemicals used to make meth and can still be in the final product. Everyone thinks they can cook meth, recipes are easy to be found. That doesn't mean they really can produce a clean product. A lot of what is passed off as meth is full of toxic crap.
Meth can cause "sexual overdrive" that is one of the draws of meth, people think meth makes sex so much better, it might have that effect for a bit, but usually ends up with the user not being able to get it up, Erectile dysfunction is a problem for most long term users. But yes, at first it could explain his sexual vigor,
Meth will cause moodiness, aggressive behaviour, tho the physical withdrawals are minimal compared to heroin, the phsychological addiction is a tough nut to crack. Hanging with drug using buddies is a sure fire way to stay addicted to whatever his drug is. Most addicts who get clean avoid all contact with people who use, or even remind them of their using days.
I hope that answers all your questions, Tropical1 is right, there isn't much you can do other than wash your hands of him, live your life and not let him drag your life down. good luck
justonemore,
thank you ever so much for your response...i think that he might be dabbling in meth or the like because although i have been having the old red flags about his using...i have become so attuned to what he is like on heroin or the nature of heroin withdrawal...that the red flags have been interspersed with warning flags of a different hue as to the unfamiliar symptoms of an unidentified drug he is could be abusing at present...
guess i will never know either way MARY
thank you ever so much for your response...i think that he might be dabbling in meth or the like because although i have been having the old red flags about his using...i have become so attuned to what he is like on heroin or the nature of heroin withdrawal...that the red flags have been interspersed with warning flags of a different hue as to the unfamiliar symptoms of an unidentified drug he is could be abusing at present...
guess i will never know either way MARY
It doesn't matter one iota what drug he is abusing.
Actions are everything. Take your life back.
Actions are everything. Take your life back.
Okay okay.....i know 'don't stand so close to the fire or take back my life as what does it matter what drug he really is abusing...etc.
but what if i was wrong and he isn't abusing any drug?
i didn't say we were still together but i do see him on
occasion..so what is wrong with knowing the true
nature of the beast?
MARY
but what if i was wrong and he isn't abusing any drug?
i didn't say we were still together but i do see him on
occasion..so what is wrong with knowing the true
nature of the beast?
MARY
Mary so if you are wrong and he is not abusing any drug then what? how will this affect your life and day to day living? How does this factor in to your recovery plan on what drug he may be using?
just tired of being taken for a ride...
some dude on another board was posting how he was going to give into his addiction and take his life....of course that set the intervention alarms off and many contributed...including myself to try to dissuade him from taking that final step....winds up he used my post in particular to state that he would indeed carry out his plan...
now he is back on the board after a brief hiatus and is telling all that he 'staged' the whole ruse..even to the point of writing posts himself using other posters' names to sweeten- pulling the fast one- pot on the rest of us....just a big joke and some of the 'regulars' are welcoming him back....the very ones like myself that were creamed on...
how many of us have actually had loved ones (including my youngest brother) that either intentionally or unintentionally O.D. due to their addictions?...the whole episode was very upsetting for me and brought back a lot of bad memories and i can't believe the moderators didn't pull any of those threads or let him come back posting under a new alias now..
so yeah....it would be nice if once i was allowed to know
the truth or the nature of the beast involved....tired of getting my
chain yanked...and what is so wrong for me asking about the
symptoms of a possible abused drug that i don't happen to be
familiar with?
isn't this an Addiction Recovery Guide site...i used to
think so....but even here i failed to recognize the nature of
the beast...
oh well life goes on as usual..
MARY
some dude on another board was posting how he was going to give into his addiction and take his life....of course that set the intervention alarms off and many contributed...including myself to try to dissuade him from taking that final step....winds up he used my post in particular to state that he would indeed carry out his plan...
now he is back on the board after a brief hiatus and is telling all that he 'staged' the whole ruse..even to the point of writing posts himself using other posters' names to sweeten- pulling the fast one- pot on the rest of us....just a big joke and some of the 'regulars' are welcoming him back....the very ones like myself that were creamed on...
how many of us have actually had loved ones (including my youngest brother) that either intentionally or unintentionally O.D. due to their addictions?...the whole episode was very upsetting for me and brought back a lot of bad memories and i can't believe the moderators didn't pull any of those threads or let him come back posting under a new alias now..
so yeah....it would be nice if once i was allowed to know
the truth or the nature of the beast involved....tired of getting my
chain yanked...and what is so wrong for me asking about the
symptoms of a possible abused drug that i don't happen to be
familiar with?
isn't this an Addiction Recovery Guide site...i used to
think so....but even here i failed to recognize the nature of
the beast...
oh well life goes on as usual..
MARY
Mary, there's nothing wrong with you asking about signs and effects of any drug. My daughter was addicted to meth, and I had NO CLUE until I asked questions...so don't ever feel bad for trying to inform yourself. The more knowledge you gain the stronger you become yourself, because eventually we can't ignore the signs..once we know what they are. There is so many approaches here, Mary, in how people offer help. Just gravitate to what you feel comfortable accepting...and you will see in time, you will be open to new and different approaches. It hurts when you love someone who is an addict...and it hurts twice when we feel attacked for loving them. Just try understand most are trying to help in their way..and it may not be just what you need right now, but it may be valuable in time. best of luck to you. luv corrinne
Mary I am a addict as well as you. My ex used heroin and brought me down to a level that i havd never been to before. I never realized how co-dependant I was untilhe was long gone and i had found this board. I never realized how dangerous my obession and co-dependance was either. mary I am truly sorry that you think I jump you all the time when you go over and over in these posts but what i see is a shadow of myself in the past and its very scary to me, that you give so much power to someone that really could care less about you. That you totally become lost in someone that doesnt even know you exist anymore and believe me Mary we are so worth a happy joyous life and if we dont take back our own life we are doomed to repeat it. I dont ever want to be that person again that cares so much about someone else that I lose myself. And on that other board I saw the posting by tinnman and I just guess the mods have not caught on yet.
Take Care
Carol
Take Care
Carol
Carol..
i know you are just showing me some of that 'tough love' and i should be posting on the Friends and Family board..but it just seems of late that most of the threads and posts are created by parents of the addicted loved one...particularly the mothers...who are fiercely protective of their addicted offspring..and don't take kindly to any sobering advice...especially from the childless contributors such as myself for example...
i finally got sober when my family 'let me go' to learn to fend for myself over 20 years ago...but that i think that AA like the original Weight Watchers program has modified and geared its way of thinking for the tender hearted since its original inception....and that old tough love is proving too much a bitter pill to swallow for the lionesses regarding their addicted cubs..
as far as what happened on that other board....i know the moderators are pretty hip as to what is going down on these forums at all times....a few of my threads were pulled lickety split but others that i considered both offensive and insulting seem to escape the edict of banishment without question nor explanation from the hierarchy of this recovery site...
believe it or not i have weened myself away from the ex bf...i don't see him that often and neither am i the first one to call as in the old days....and if he does call.....i don't pick up the phone that often anymore....i ain't out of the woods yet by no means....but it sure would help to know if and what he is using to prevent me from feeling like the nutty one and accept the crazy reality that he still tries to pawn off on me instead of the obvious truth which i can only feel but can't actually see yet
and seeing would be believing in my case and is sorely
the antidote that is needed right now..
i think it is meth now..
sigh MARY
i know you are just showing me some of that 'tough love' and i should be posting on the Friends and Family board..but it just seems of late that most of the threads and posts are created by parents of the addicted loved one...particularly the mothers...who are fiercely protective of their addicted offspring..and don't take kindly to any sobering advice...especially from the childless contributors such as myself for example...
i finally got sober when my family 'let me go' to learn to fend for myself over 20 years ago...but that i think that AA like the original Weight Watchers program has modified and geared its way of thinking for the tender hearted since its original inception....and that old tough love is proving too much a bitter pill to swallow for the lionesses regarding their addicted cubs..
as far as what happened on that other board....i know the moderators are pretty hip as to what is going down on these forums at all times....a few of my threads were pulled lickety split but others that i considered both offensive and insulting seem to escape the edict of banishment without question nor explanation from the hierarchy of this recovery site...
believe it or not i have weened myself away from the ex bf...i don't see him that often and neither am i the first one to call as in the old days....and if he does call.....i don't pick up the phone that often anymore....i ain't out of the woods yet by no means....but it sure would help to know if and what he is using to prevent me from feeling like the nutty one and accept the crazy reality that he still tries to pawn off on me instead of the obvious truth which i can only feel but can't actually see yet
and seeing would be believing in my case and is sorely
the antidote that is needed right now..
i think it is meth now..
sigh MARY
A couple cliche' sayings, but both fit very well here. The only stupid question is the one not asked, and knowledge is power.
I questioned the moderators choice to start the friends and family topic. There are many questions that only a user, or ex-user can answer. However all the topics serve their purpose and it is up to the person to search out the place to get their questions answered. Overall this site helped me conquer 35 years of meth abuse. Like everything in this world, ya gotta take what you can use and leave the rest.
I questioned the moderators choice to start the friends and family topic. There are many questions that only a user, or ex-user can answer. However all the topics serve their purpose and it is up to the person to search out the place to get their questions answered. Overall this site helped me conquer 35 years of meth abuse. Like everything in this world, ya gotta take what you can use and leave the rest.
"you are only as sick as your secrets".....the reason i have been asking about meth and what to look for....is that i capitulated to his unusual pesterings to have sex..and it was unprotected and as Tropical1 had warned but now it is too late.. not only did i stand too close to the fire...but allowed myself to become engulfed within its seductive flame...
it is true...this is more about me than about him or whatever
drug he may or may not be abusing....the thing is i know what is and i know what isn't...and i know what should or shouldn't be...
but i won't let it be......MARY
it is true...this is more about me than about him or whatever
drug he may or may not be abusing....the thing is i know what is and i know what isn't...and i know what should or shouldn't be...
but i won't let it be......MARY
Perhaps with the knowledge you seek, you will now know better and let it be. We all get burned by fire once, question is, do we learn from it?
justonemore,
if you wouldn't mind just one more question....how did you eventually get clean from your rather lengthy meth addiction?....i think i mentioned that the ex bf had/has a heroin IV habit that has spanned over 30 years now...throw in some years of coke injection given up before i met him as he developed psychosis from it.
are you completely drug free or do you indulge in weed as the ex bf does (says it keeps him from doing heroin)....he still keeps contact with old users and dealers (just friendship mind you he states)....and the cell phone he acquired over 3 months ago gives me pause for thought as he always poked fun at all the rest of us who owned one..
i mean can you be around old users but not indulge?
thanx for detailing the 'watch out fors' with meth abuse
it doesn't seem like heroin abuse to me..
anyway...i think i'd better get an HIV test
MARY:(
if you wouldn't mind just one more question....how did you eventually get clean from your rather lengthy meth addiction?....i think i mentioned that the ex bf had/has a heroin IV habit that has spanned over 30 years now...throw in some years of coke injection given up before i met him as he developed psychosis from it.
are you completely drug free or do you indulge in weed as the ex bf does (says it keeps him from doing heroin)....he still keeps contact with old users and dealers (just friendship mind you he states)....and the cell phone he acquired over 3 months ago gives me pause for thought as he always poked fun at all the rest of us who owned one..
i mean can you be around old users but not indulge?
thanx for detailing the 'watch out fors' with meth abuse
it doesn't seem like heroin abuse to me..
anyway...i think i'd better get an HIV test
MARY:(
No, I can not be around users. I may think I am strong enough to not give in, but I am not chancing it. I moved 2500 miles away from every person I partied with, got it from, triggered me into wanting to use. A completely new and drug free environment was the biggest key to my stopping.
I wont lie, I do go out to clubs or bars now and then, most times I drink non-alcoholic, but I permit myself one night a week to let loose, if even that. I haven't had a drink or beer in over a month. I have smoked some pot, but very little. I have to admit it really helped with anger and rage issues I get from time to time. After almost a year of quitting, the depression and anger issues were really bad. I did have to seek medical help. Over time the right meds were found to help with those issues.
I really don't see it possible for a long term drug user to live a "normal" life without some form of meds. Over the years the brain chemistry is shot, needing meds to get back to a more balanced system .(normal being open to a wide range of opinion)
Yes, an HIV test would be a good idea. The last thing someone high on meth is going to think of while having sex is going to be "safe" you have no idea of who and what he's doing.
I wont lie, I do go out to clubs or bars now and then, most times I drink non-alcoholic, but I permit myself one night a week to let loose, if even that. I haven't had a drink or beer in over a month. I have smoked some pot, but very little. I have to admit it really helped with anger and rage issues I get from time to time. After almost a year of quitting, the depression and anger issues were really bad. I did have to seek medical help. Over time the right meds were found to help with those issues.
I really don't see it possible for a long term drug user to live a "normal" life without some form of meds. Over the years the brain chemistry is shot, needing meds to get back to a more balanced system .(normal being open to a wide range of opinion)
Yes, an HIV test would be a good idea. The last thing someone high on meth is going to think of while having sex is going to be "safe" you have no idea of who and what he's doing.
Mary -
I am one of those fiercely protective parents you mentioned, but I am grateful for any well-meaning advice, whether you are a parent or not. I have read your posts about 20 years clean and some others and I would welcome your input - you sound like someone who has it together - not for nothing did you make that major milestone.
I am okay with tough or tender love as long as the input is valuable to me, and just knowing that there are folks out there with as much clean time as you've strung together is something I hang on to.
On another note, I completely agree about the alleged hoax perpetrated on the other board. I haven't been here long, but I was stunned that no one stepped in; it was a sad and hurtful situation. When I saw the phony posts all I could think was that all the effort that went into creating the profiles and supposedly faking the whole thing was a waste of everyone's time and concern. If the poster had put half that much effort into his recovery...well, who knows, but I have to think it would have been energy better spent.
Best~MomNMore
Corinne - You are a gem =)
I am one of those fiercely protective parents you mentioned, but I am grateful for any well-meaning advice, whether you are a parent or not. I have read your posts about 20 years clean and some others and I would welcome your input - you sound like someone who has it together - not for nothing did you make that major milestone.
I am okay with tough or tender love as long as the input is valuable to me, and just knowing that there are folks out there with as much clean time as you've strung together is something I hang on to.
On another note, I completely agree about the alleged hoax perpetrated on the other board. I haven't been here long, but I was stunned that no one stepped in; it was a sad and hurtful situation. When I saw the phony posts all I could think was that all the effort that went into creating the profiles and supposedly faking the whole thing was a waste of everyone's time and concern. If the poster had put half that much effort into his recovery...well, who knows, but I have to think it would have been energy better spent.
Best~MomNMore
Corinne - You are a gem =)
thanx justonemore and Corinne,
i am old school AA...don't use anything..perhaps the fact that my addiction was pot and alcohol...makes it easier for me to stay substance free....don't know what i would do if i had been addicted to the 'big league' stuff...20 years ago...probably wouldn't still be around at this point.....thing with the ex bf is that he smokes pot 24/7 when i see him and it hardly seems a substitute or deterrent for over 30 years of slamming heroin and coke....and he buys and smokes pot from/with the same users and dealers he used to cop heroin from...
geez who is he or am i kidding..the dude is using something...and not seeing him all that often anymore...the change in his appearance and demeanor is alarmingly striking....and i hate to say this but for his sake i wish it was heroin because if it is meth or crack as i suspect...it is both aging and sucking the very marrow of life out of him....and he had been more mellow and less paranoid when he was shooting heroin..
i remember reading that most heroin addicts' relapsing can be attributed to almost organic like depression that envelops them months..even years after quitting...i guess that stuff changes the brain chemistry permanently and of course he doesn't believe in quacks and antidepressants and runs his own recovery program..
Corinne....i don't even want to post on that Board anymore.....i myself in my active years attempted suicide twice......my brother jumped to his death at the age of 29 as he couldn't fight his drug demon any longer...a woman i know jumped to her death from the 9th floor of a welfare hotel....my friend OD on valium and heroin just a day after we last had spoken with each other....another friend fell asleep at the wheel....not seeing the semi barreling down upon her....she was decapitated as her car slammed beneath the bottom of the truck..the roof sheared off as the lid off a tuna can...
what really shocked me about that whole episode over on that board was that the poster in question was merely 'slapped on the wrist' but welcomed back by the regulars....
i know there is a father that lost his son to a heroin OD that used to post on these boards but i believe still checks in from time to time...i wonder what he thought of that whole charade..
i am myself am not a parent....but i feel an addict is addict whether
they be the son daughter husband cousin brother sister..etc. and
i think it gets hard to separate the addict from the loved one and
exorcise that demon with all the fire and brimstone that is
warranted...but appears a mother's love is too 'strong' for
the saving grace of tough love...
hey but we all are on the same side in
the end with waging war against drugs
a fellow warrior MARY
i am old school AA...don't use anything..perhaps the fact that my addiction was pot and alcohol...makes it easier for me to stay substance free....don't know what i would do if i had been addicted to the 'big league' stuff...20 years ago...probably wouldn't still be around at this point.....thing with the ex bf is that he smokes pot 24/7 when i see him and it hardly seems a substitute or deterrent for over 30 years of slamming heroin and coke....and he buys and smokes pot from/with the same users and dealers he used to cop heroin from...
geez who is he or am i kidding..the dude is using something...and not seeing him all that often anymore...the change in his appearance and demeanor is alarmingly striking....and i hate to say this but for his sake i wish it was heroin because if it is meth or crack as i suspect...it is both aging and sucking the very marrow of life out of him....and he had been more mellow and less paranoid when he was shooting heroin..
i remember reading that most heroin addicts' relapsing can be attributed to almost organic like depression that envelops them months..even years after quitting...i guess that stuff changes the brain chemistry permanently and of course he doesn't believe in quacks and antidepressants and runs his own recovery program..
Corinne....i don't even want to post on that Board anymore.....i myself in my active years attempted suicide twice......my brother jumped to his death at the age of 29 as he couldn't fight his drug demon any longer...a woman i know jumped to her death from the 9th floor of a welfare hotel....my friend OD on valium and heroin just a day after we last had spoken with each other....another friend fell asleep at the wheel....not seeing the semi barreling down upon her....she was decapitated as her car slammed beneath the bottom of the truck..the roof sheared off as the lid off a tuna can...
what really shocked me about that whole episode over on that board was that the poster in question was merely 'slapped on the wrist' but welcomed back by the regulars....
i know there is a father that lost his son to a heroin OD that used to post on these boards but i believe still checks in from time to time...i wonder what he thought of that whole charade..
i am myself am not a parent....but i feel an addict is addict whether
they be the son daughter husband cousin brother sister..etc. and
i think it gets hard to separate the addict from the loved one and
exorcise that demon with all the fire and brimstone that is
warranted...but appears a mother's love is too 'strong' for
the saving grace of tough love...
hey but we all are on the same side in
the end with waging war against drugs
a fellow warrior MARY
Dearest Mary : )
Thank you for your words of encouragement regarding my post "my last battle..." I am at that 'point' now where this battle can go either way..... I will read your message daily to help give me strength..... I am lucky though, I have a friend that is as close to me as a brother, and he is probably fighting harder for my recovery than even me sometimes....I will keep you posted....GOD BLESS YOU!
Sincerely,
Brent
Thank you for your words of encouragement regarding my post "my last battle..." I am at that 'point' now where this battle can go either way..... I will read your message daily to help give me strength..... I am lucky though, I have a friend that is as close to me as a brother, and he is probably fighting harder for my recovery than even me sometimes....I will keep you posted....GOD BLESS YOU!
Sincerely,
Brent
