Hey Iz,
Can you post what you experience when you are living in undiagnosed bi-polar? I'm thinking maybe my youngest might be, but not sure...I'm gonna make an appt with the Psychiatrist for her....her Uncle (my ex-husband's brother) is a full blown schizophrenic and her Great-Uncle was diagnosed aschizophrenic, he's dead from alcoholism; however I think she shows more bi-polar tendencies. I thought maybe you could help me out. Thanks in advance.
Hi VWGirl.
I saw the Psych today actually... and she said I am supposed to keep a mood diary which I have been doing. That is the only way they can monitor your moods... so I've been told anyway. Maybe you should start doing that but maybe don't tell your daughter.
From people I have talked to... Borderline Personality Disorder is much more common and exhibits mostly the same symptoms as Bi polar. It is especially common in young women... maybe something else to look into???
www.borderlineuk.co.uk
If you want any other info just post your email address and I'll email you... or get my email from Ginge.
Izzy X
I saw the Psych today actually... and she said I am supposed to keep a mood diary which I have been doing. That is the only way they can monitor your moods... so I've been told anyway. Maybe you should start doing that but maybe don't tell your daughter.
From people I have talked to... Borderline Personality Disorder is much more common and exhibits mostly the same symptoms as Bi polar. It is especially common in young women... maybe something else to look into???
www.borderlineuk.co.uk
If you want any other info just post your email address and I'll email you... or get my email from Ginge.
Izzy X
Thanks so much Iz. Actually we are taking her into the IOP today..so wish me luck....how are you doing? Stay strong!
Oh, btw, I keep a journal every night and have documented her rages and when she comes home under the influence.
Oh, btw, I keep a journal every night and have documented her rages and when she comes home under the influence.
Hey VWGirl... just be prepared for the backlash you'll get from your daughter if she doesn't want to co operate. My mum and dad tried to get me in the Hospital and I was having none of it... so I went really mad and felt like they really hated me and they just wanted rid... so maybe your daughter might come out with something like that. But just be strong because she'll realise it's for her own interests at some point.
Good luck with her though... and if you wanna chat about anything I'm here.
I'm doing ok. Am getting support from the alcohol counsellors now. Still not entirely clean but I'm gonna get there. My mum's been really supportive actually because a lot of stuff came out about what I feel about alcohol in the last meeting which she didn't know and she said I was brave to be facing up to it all. So if I've anything else to add I'll post it up...
But take care and I'll be thinking about you...
Izzy X
Good luck with her though... and if you wanna chat about anything I'm here.
I'm doing ok. Am getting support from the alcohol counsellors now. Still not entirely clean but I'm gonna get there. My mum's been really supportive actually because a lot of stuff came out about what I feel about alcohol in the last meeting which she didn't know and she said I was brave to be facing up to it all. So if I've anything else to add I'll post it up...
But take care and I'll be thinking about you...
Izzy X
Hi again Izzy, Did you ever go into treatment for alcoholism? If so, was it short term or long term, in patient or out patient or did you just refuse to go at all? I'm just looking for a young person's perspective....thanks! Hope you are doing okay, check in when you can.
I'm only just starting treatment for alcohol now. I might get an inpatient program but this is Britain and none of the services are that great...
I'm amazed that your daughter got taken in right away... i was in and out of A&E for the best part of a year and everytime got sent home.
So maybe someone in the States might be able to help you out mroe than me.
Izzy X
I'm amazed that your daughter got taken in right away... i was in and out of A&E for the best part of a year and everytime got sent home.
So maybe someone in the States might be able to help you out mroe than me.
Izzy X
Hi Iz, I just got a call from the Psychiatrist...K is very non-compliant and defiant...they are going to start dosing her with Depakote...and we will most likely start weaning her off just before she goes to rehab....the Psychiatrist and Social Worker extended her hold for an add'l 14 days, then off to rehab, maybe in state, maybe out of state, not sure yet. I'm most likely gonna take a Family Leave from work. Wow, things are so much different in Britain in regard to medical care then here in the US...I have been helped all the way around and no waiting, it's just boom, and she's here, boom and she's there...I am one grateful Mom today.
Hey VWGirl... I wish you the best with your daughter... she sure does have one great mom... I wish I could just get in somewhere but it doesn't happen like that here unless you've almost killed yourself.
I have to do a lot of the coping myself... My Psychiatrist wont see me in a crises... she just sends out an appointment for two weeks later and by that time I'm over it so I'm never actually learning how to cope when things like that do happen.
I'm supposed to be getting Psychology next month... so we'll see how that goes...
Anyway... good luck and I wish you and your daughter the best...
Izzy X
I have to do a lot of the coping myself... My Psychiatrist wont see me in a crises... she just sends out an appointment for two weeks later and by that time I'm over it so I'm never actually learning how to cope when things like that do happen.
I'm supposed to be getting Psychology next month... so we'll see how that goes...
Anyway... good luck and I wish you and your daughter the best...
Izzy X
Hey, Iz thanks, I wish my daughter felt like she wanted me as her Mom...that makes me so sad and made me tear up...but Izzy, hang in there....I wish you could get the help you need; I wish it was easier for you, but for some reason your HP is taking you thru all this for a higher purpose and I truly believe that and I hope you do too.
Hey VW... your daughter does love you... she's just caught up in her own stuff right now... I promise you she'll see how much you love her and she'll know you did what you did for her...
It took me a long time to get to grips with the fact everyone around me thought I needed to be in a Psych ward... I felt they just wanted to get rid of me... out of sight out of mind... maybe your daughter feels a bit like that at the moment... I can certainly identify with her being defiant and non compliant... that was me too.
I hope you can stay strong but also don't let her take every last bit of energy from you worrying about her. My mum did with me and I felt awful...
I'm sure I'm not the only one on here thinking about you and hoping your daughter makes it. You know you have our support...
And don't worry about me... I'm as tough as old boots lol!!!
Izzy X
It took me a long time to get to grips with the fact everyone around me thought I needed to be in a Psych ward... I felt they just wanted to get rid of me... out of sight out of mind... maybe your daughter feels a bit like that at the moment... I can certainly identify with her being defiant and non compliant... that was me too.
I hope you can stay strong but also don't let her take every last bit of energy from you worrying about her. My mum did with me and I felt awful...
I'm sure I'm not the only one on here thinking about you and hoping your daughter makes it. You know you have our support...
And don't worry about me... I'm as tough as old boots lol!!!
Izzy X
Oh, Izzy, I just sit here and cry after reading your post...maybe it's all finally hitting me now...thanks for being there for me.
No problem VW... maybe I can help you understand a bit how your daughter might be feeling about all this... as I've been in similar situations myself...
But you know you can ask me anything and if I can make comment I will...
Take care. I know you can get through this... you beat the drink... you can do anything...
Izzy X
But you know you can ask me anything and if I can make comment I will...
Take care. I know you can get through this... you beat the drink... you can do anything...
Izzy X
Thanks Iz....why is she still so defiant after already four days in the hospital? You'd think it would be easier just to comply. They gave her Depakote, did I tell you that already, what is that? She is refusing to see us...some friends came by but the hospital has now banned her friends, they are a bunch of hooligans...so they are not welcome there. Thanks again for any suggestions or advice you have to offer.
Hey VW I got this off the net for you:
The uses of DEPAKOTE ( DEPAKOTE, DIVALPROEX ) include:
Manufactured by Sanofi. Used, alone or with other drugs, to treat certain types of seizures in the treatment of epilepsy. It also is used to prevent migraine headaches and to treat various psychiatric illnesses, such as bipolar disorder and aggression.
She's not complying because she doesn't want to be there... I would have done exactly the same thing at that stage in my recovery too... I didn't think there was anything wrong with what I was doing... I thought I could stop the drink at anytime but I soon found that it wasn't as easy as I first thought. I knew I had a problem.
I really don't think your daughter is going to go along with this because she may think she doesn't have a problem... She may think that doing drink or drugs 'once or twice' is nothing... that is until it escalates out of control...
I know this is hard... but you know what I'm going to say is right... she's going to have to realise herself that she has problems... it's gonna be a hard struggle because if she's anything like me she'll be as stubborn as a mule... But I think you should stick with her treatment plan.
Good luck VW...
Izzy X
The uses of DEPAKOTE ( DEPAKOTE, DIVALPROEX ) include:
Manufactured by Sanofi. Used, alone or with other drugs, to treat certain types of seizures in the treatment of epilepsy. It also is used to prevent migraine headaches and to treat various psychiatric illnesses, such as bipolar disorder and aggression.
She's not complying because she doesn't want to be there... I would have done exactly the same thing at that stage in my recovery too... I didn't think there was anything wrong with what I was doing... I thought I could stop the drink at anytime but I soon found that it wasn't as easy as I first thought. I knew I had a problem.
I really don't think your daughter is going to go along with this because she may think she doesn't have a problem... She may think that doing drink or drugs 'once or twice' is nothing... that is until it escalates out of control...
I know this is hard... but you know what I'm going to say is right... she's going to have to realise herself that she has problems... it's gonna be a hard struggle because if she's anything like me she'll be as stubborn as a mule... But I think you should stick with her treatment plan.
Good luck VW...
Izzy X
Hi Iz, Yep, I do realize that I am powerless over K's recovery but not her safety. She will be in the institution as long as it takes...I'm taking her school work over this afternoon. My Company pays 100%. Then when she shows signs of willingness she will be sent about two hours away from us to an Inpatient Residential Treatment center, also covered by my insurance...if that doesn't work she will be shipped off to an out-of-state facility which is a total lock down for a year. Or she can go to juvenile hall, I have no problem sending her away. Thanks for all your information, I appreciate it so much...I'm so self obsessed that I forget to ask in my messages how you are doing, how are you holding up and how is your Mom....how does she manage thru all this (or how did she). Thanks again.
Hey VW...
Yesterday my house was like a warzone.
My mum got so fed up at my dad because he broke a promise he made me which cost me a hell of a lotta money... and then it all went downhill from there...
I really honestly don't know why my mum married my dad... he's done nothing but give her grief from the day they met. She told me that one time they'd gone on holiday and went hillwalking and because mom took a different route down from dad he wouldn't speak to her at all so she just packed up all her stuff and went home coz what was the point of being there and him being a total wanker about it...
Then yesterday a whole new can of worms came out. I'd always suspected at the back of my mind that my dad was violent to her... she said yesterday that he pulled her across the floor by the hair the night before my sisters Christening because he thought it was a load of bulls***...
He maintains he's only ever hit me twice in my life... well what are all the memories I have of being s*** scared of him... too frightened to go home after school because of what mood he might be in and what i was gonna have to take the blame for next... he's pulled me across the floor by my hair too so I know what he's capable of... He once kneeled on my chest so hard I thought I had cracked ribs coz I couldn't breathe right for about a week after he'd bruised me so bad and he did that because he asked where my mum was and I didn't know. I could only have been about 10...
He's a classic abuser... he hates the fact I have to talk about him when I'm discussing my problems with the people who are trying to help me... because he's at the root of most of them...
How does my mum cope? What with me being ill and him being a total moron... she says. "That's what women do" Put up with being made to feel like a useless worthless piece of s***... which is what he's told me I am on numerous occassions.
So right now I am not in the best place mentally coz it's just one revelation after another with my family... they make me feel so ashamed the stuff I know...
I've got lots to talk about with the alcohol counsellor as I'm trying to get to the bottom of why i drink...
And me and mum support each other... because it's only us who know what it's really like to live with my dad...
I have an elder sister whose married now but she always said to me she was jealous of me because I had dad growing up and I've always maintaned she was the one who was lucky... she grew up loved and cared for... I grew up in fear.
Anyway... yeah I'm feeling good about the whole not drinking thing. I think it'll all come together when the time is right.
Izzy X
Yesterday my house was like a warzone.
My mum got so fed up at my dad because he broke a promise he made me which cost me a hell of a lotta money... and then it all went downhill from there...
I really honestly don't know why my mum married my dad... he's done nothing but give her grief from the day they met. She told me that one time they'd gone on holiday and went hillwalking and because mom took a different route down from dad he wouldn't speak to her at all so she just packed up all her stuff and went home coz what was the point of being there and him being a total wanker about it...
Then yesterday a whole new can of worms came out. I'd always suspected at the back of my mind that my dad was violent to her... she said yesterday that he pulled her across the floor by the hair the night before my sisters Christening because he thought it was a load of bulls***...
He maintains he's only ever hit me twice in my life... well what are all the memories I have of being s*** scared of him... too frightened to go home after school because of what mood he might be in and what i was gonna have to take the blame for next... he's pulled me across the floor by my hair too so I know what he's capable of... He once kneeled on my chest so hard I thought I had cracked ribs coz I couldn't breathe right for about a week after he'd bruised me so bad and he did that because he asked where my mum was and I didn't know. I could only have been about 10...
He's a classic abuser... he hates the fact I have to talk about him when I'm discussing my problems with the people who are trying to help me... because he's at the root of most of them...
How does my mum cope? What with me being ill and him being a total moron... she says. "That's what women do" Put up with being made to feel like a useless worthless piece of s***... which is what he's told me I am on numerous occassions.
So right now I am not in the best place mentally coz it's just one revelation after another with my family... they make me feel so ashamed the stuff I know...
I've got lots to talk about with the alcohol counsellor as I'm trying to get to the bottom of why i drink...
And me and mum support each other... because it's only us who know what it's really like to live with my dad...
I have an elder sister whose married now but she always said to me she was jealous of me because I had dad growing up and I've always maintaned she was the one who was lucky... she grew up loved and cared for... I grew up in fear.
Anyway... yeah I'm feeling good about the whole not drinking thing. I think it'll all come together when the time is right.
Izzy X
