We understand there have been differences in opinions. However, the goal of this board is to provide support for addiction recovery. We ask that you refrain from attacks and negative posts and get back to the topic of recovery.
Thank you,
The Moderators
Moderators,
I hope you don't mind but I saw some rules on another site and cut and pasted them here. It seems it covers alot of the problems going on this website.
Here's a quick overview of the types of comments and discussions you may find here, and some of the guidelines we must set to protect members who want to feel safe here:
Personal Attacks and Flames - These are directed at a specific person or group of people in a derogatory or antagonistic manner. Frequently personal attacks are identifiable by the words "you, did x" or "X (name of person) is a _____"
Attempting to discredit a person through their posts on another group or list, or through their past actions, constitutes a personal attack. We attempt to grow - this can be a daunting task, especially when our past actions are constantly thrown in our faces despite our efforts to change and make amends.
Attacking because we feel attacked is also considered a personal attack and will be handled as such. Please try to bear in mind that the person with whom you are disagreeing may perhaps be spiritually sick and leave it at that.
Personal Experience - This is based upon our own lives and the lives of those we have learned from. Our experience can be based on the Big Book or NA basic text, as in fact many of us have found, and it can at times contradict what others have stated to this board. Keep the personal attacks out of it, and this is fine.
Personal Opinions - Again, these are thoughts and opinions which we have as individuals. Please feel free to discuss them within the parameters mentioned above. Try to stay focused on the primary focus of the group, and keep the flames and personal attacks out of it.
Debates - Are logical arguments and/or discussions held between two or more parties on a specific topic. These do not revolve around the person or character of any person.
Arguments - We use the word argument here to define mean-spirited attacks, veiled assumptions and threats, and questions which are meant to derail the purpose of this group.
Questions - We want to make a distinction between any questions you may have and what we have defined above as arguments and debates. Please feel free to post any questions you may have if they are related 12-step recovery, how you related to a particular message, or if you feel your question otherwise is pertinent to this group.
I hope you don't mind but I saw some rules on another site and cut and pasted them here. It seems it covers alot of the problems going on this website.
Here's a quick overview of the types of comments and discussions you may find here, and some of the guidelines we must set to protect members who want to feel safe here:
Personal Attacks and Flames - These are directed at a specific person or group of people in a derogatory or antagonistic manner. Frequently personal attacks are identifiable by the words "you, did x" or "X (name of person) is a _____"
Attempting to discredit a person through their posts on another group or list, or through their past actions, constitutes a personal attack. We attempt to grow - this can be a daunting task, especially when our past actions are constantly thrown in our faces despite our efforts to change and make amends.
Attacking because we feel attacked is also considered a personal attack and will be handled as such. Please try to bear in mind that the person with whom you are disagreeing may perhaps be spiritually sick and leave it at that.
Personal Experience - This is based upon our own lives and the lives of those we have learned from. Our experience can be based on the Big Book or NA basic text, as in fact many of us have found, and it can at times contradict what others have stated to this board. Keep the personal attacks out of it, and this is fine.
Personal Opinions - Again, these are thoughts and opinions which we have as individuals. Please feel free to discuss them within the parameters mentioned above. Try to stay focused on the primary focus of the group, and keep the flames and personal attacks out of it.
Debates - Are logical arguments and/or discussions held between two or more parties on a specific topic. These do not revolve around the person or character of any person.
Arguments - We use the word argument here to define mean-spirited attacks, veiled assumptions and threats, and questions which are meant to derail the purpose of this group.
Questions - We want to make a distinction between any questions you may have and what we have defined above as arguments and debates. Please feel free to post any questions you may have if they are related 12-step recovery, how you related to a particular message, or if you feel your question otherwise is pertinent to this group.
Everytime I see that Avatar from the moderator I think of "Jurassic Park"....coming in for the kill.LOL
just kidding around with ya.
BTW....A lot of life's stuff is about Recovery.Its not just talking about drugs.Ive got to learn how to disagree,challenge and confront without being mean or harsh.Im trying but I still fail at times.I dont get that rush anymore when I do get mean and hateful.It always makes me feel bad later.Thats also what amends are for.
This board has helped me in some of those areas.Im also learning what not to share on here.Its not always a good ideal(for me) to share real private things on here.Ive made some good buddies on here that I feel better doing that through e-mails.Who knows? That could come back and bite me in the a** someday.
Im not perfect either.I still will read those incendiary post and enjoy every minute of it.
Maybe,someday that wont even appeal to me.
just kidding around with ya.
BTW....A lot of life's stuff is about Recovery.Its not just talking about drugs.Ive got to learn how to disagree,challenge and confront without being mean or harsh.Im trying but I still fail at times.I dont get that rush anymore when I do get mean and hateful.It always makes me feel bad later.Thats also what amends are for.
This board has helped me in some of those areas.Im also learning what not to share on here.Its not always a good ideal(for me) to share real private things on here.Ive made some good buddies on here that I feel better doing that through e-mails.Who knows? That could come back and bite me in the a** someday.
Im not perfect either.I still will read those incendiary post and enjoy every minute of it.
Maybe,someday that wont even appeal to me.
Dear Moderators,
Just wanted to say "thank you" for all of your hard work and everything else that comes with your job.
I know that without this board, I dont know what would have happened to me or where I'd be today. Know that you help hundreds of people daily and, in turn, I think that everyone should make an extra effort to make the Mods job a little easier by trying to keep little personal "quarrals", not related to recovey, through e-mails. Also, when you see one of those nasty little "trolls" posting some BS, try to just totally ignore them and they will eventually go away.
I think some may take this board for granted - I know the moderators work hard at their job and I think that everyone that this board has helped should make a special effort to make the Mods job a little easier!!
Have a great weekend,
Love,
Marie
Just wanted to say "thank you" for all of your hard work and everything else that comes with your job.
I know that without this board, I dont know what would have happened to me or where I'd be today. Know that you help hundreds of people daily and, in turn, I think that everyone should make an extra effort to make the Mods job a little easier by trying to keep little personal "quarrals", not related to recovey, through e-mails. Also, when you see one of those nasty little "trolls" posting some BS, try to just totally ignore them and they will eventually go away.
I think some may take this board for granted - I know the moderators work hard at their job and I think that everyone that this board has helped should make a special effort to make the Mods job a little easier!!
Have a great weekend,
Love,
Marie
Dear Mods,
Thank you for the reminder.
And I take this opportunity to apologize for a few neg posts I did write.
I will be more aware.
And I agree with Tim's post.It's about boundaries too.
Thank you for the reminder.
And I take this opportunity to apologize for a few neg posts I did write.
I will be more aware.
And I agree with Tim's post.It's about boundaries too.
I agree with Tim, whenever I start rolling with the poison I am ultimately the one who feels bad. Being in the thick of the negative drama is old behavior for most, I think. Part of my addiction was that I never thought I had a part in anything. I thought it was everyone elses fault. Taking a look at what I can do differently and what my part is helps me on a daily basis.
Cheers,
Rachel
Tim,
I want your key lime pie recipe. If you don't mind.
I want your key lime pie recipe. If you don't mind.
For every minute you are angry,
You loose sixty seconds of happiness.
Anger is just one letter short of danger...............
Travis
You loose sixty seconds of happiness.
Anger is just one letter short of danger...............
Travis
Brooke quotes-Tim,
"I want your key lime pie recipe. If you don't mind."
Im saving that for Roger.LOL
If you are serious,e-mail me timlincoln@aol.com.Remember,this is my recipe.Although its a basic recipe,I do a twist to it that will knock your socks off.Also,the secret is to get real key lime juice.Not the fake sh*t.
"I want your key lime pie recipe. If you don't mind."
Im saving that for Roger.LOL
If you are serious,e-mail me timlincoln@aol.com.Remember,this is my recipe.Although its a basic recipe,I do a twist to it that will knock your socks off.Also,the secret is to get real key lime juice.Not the fake sh*t.
to the mods and anybody else........i have found myself getting involved with all the negativity......i apologise for my actions...... i get a bit defensive sometimes and i am not proud of it........again i am sorry for getting involved.
have a happy christmas.
chris
have a happy christmas.
chris
Dear Lovebird,
The moderators might not mind if you cut and paste something from another online group, but if it is done without the permission of the managers of that other group, it is not netiquettely acceptable. Please do not post anything from that group again without asking manager persmission. If, by chance, you did ask for permission from a manager, then please cite that fact when you post.
Thank you,
mdp1954
The moderators might not mind if you cut and paste something from another online group, but if it is done without the permission of the managers of that other group, it is not netiquettely acceptable. Please do not post anything from that group again without asking manager persmission. If, by chance, you did ask for permission from a manager, then please cite that fact when you post.
Thank you,
mdp1954
Huh? I thought unless something had a copyright then it could be copied and pasted without asking anyone's permission.... I guess that is what I get for thinking...
If I am wrong, could someone please clarify. I'm serious on this question..I sure don't want to get into trouble for copying and pasting information.
If I am wrong, could someone please clarify. I'm serious on this question..I sure don't want to get into trouble for copying and pasting information.
Pam you are correct, if anywhere on any board it has copy rights then no you can't without permission, if it does'nt then it is open for all to do as they please.
I've been on this board for almost a year now, the fights come and go. They always will.
I remember Sammy posting something that still stays with me. Whose porch is so clean here that they feel the need to sweep anothers porch?
My porch needs to be swept daily.
Redd
I remember Sammy posting something that still stays with me. Whose porch is so clean here that they feel the need to sweep anothers porch?
My porch needs to be swept daily.
Redd
so was that post copyrighted?
Thanks for answering my question. Now, I too would like to know if the article had a copyright.
Copyright laws on the internet are hard to control...
Like the fact that so many have claimed to have contributed in the odd bickering on the board.
Not me of course..Im perfect...I never stoop to such levels...lololol..right.
He without sin, cast the first stone...lolol
Wack...awww ma....
( from a previous thread i posted...lolol)
Hugs to all,
Big hug to moderators,
who have a tough job
sorting through the posts,
reading mis-spelled words ( guilty)
and typos.....(guity)
and keeping us ON TRACK...
Ali
Like the fact that so many have claimed to have contributed in the odd bickering on the board.
Not me of course..Im perfect...I never stoop to such levels...lololol..right.
He without sin, cast the first stone...lolol
Wack...awww ma....
( from a previous thread i posted...lolol)
Hugs to all,
Big hug to moderators,
who have a tough job
sorting through the posts,
reading mis-spelled words ( guilty)
and typos.....(guity)
and keeping us ON TRACK...
Ali
MDP54,
I wasn't aware this material was copywritten. Can you please clarify where you are coming from? Are you in the legal field?
Lovebird
I wasn't aware this material was copywritten. Can you please clarify where you are coming from? Are you in the legal field?
Lovebird
What the hell...........
TIMS KEY LIME PIE
You have to get the right Key lime Juice.It is not green.Whole Foods are a speciality food store that will carry it.If you can find some real key limes,then you can juice them.Thats a bit tedious but this is just another little element that will make you the "Queen of the Day".You can usually find the juice.Make sure its from Florida or Persia.
First-
Make your crust.I do a pate brisee.Its gives it a butery type of a crust.
Heres how to make the dough.If you have a cuisinart use the pastry blade.
1 1/4 cups of all purpose flour
3/4 stick of real unsalted butter cold,cut into bits
2 tblsp cold veg shortening
1/4tsp salt
3 tblsp ice water
In a large bowl blend with your finger tipd the flour,butter,veg shortening and salt until the mixture resembles meal.
Add the ice water,toss the mixture until the water is incorporated and form into a ball.
Lightly knead the ball,with the heal of the hand a few seconds to distribute the fat and form back into a ball,Dust the dough with flowe,wrap it in wax paper and chill for 2-3 hours.
Pre heat oven to 400.Press the dough into a 9" pie pan and leave a 1/2 " over hang.You dont rolll out the dough.Thats nice.
Crimp the edges decoratively.Prick the bottom with a fork. and chill the shell for 30 minutes
Take out shell,roll out wax paper and weight it down with raw rice or raw beans.
Put in the lower third of the oven and bake for 10 minutes
Take out,remove the wax paper and rice or beans,and bake for another 10-15 minutes more until it is lightly colored.Transfer to a rack,and let it cool.
Make the Filing-
3 egg yolks
1/2 cup of frshly squeezed or bottled Key lime juice.I would definitely try to find real key limes
1 lemon and one regular lime.
1 cup chilled heavy whipped cream
one 15oz.can sweetened condensed
3 tblsps. of confectionary sugar
In a bowl mix the egg yolks until light and lemon colored
Add the lime juice and some lime rind., 1 teaspooon.
Beat in the condensed milk
*Now....here comes my little secret.I will add one extra egg yolk,they call for 3 but I put in 4.I will put in the 1/2 cup of freshly squeezed key lime juice but then I will add 4tblsp of fresly squeezed lemon juice.I will mtch that with about 3 more tblsp of codensed milk.
Pour this custard into the cooled crust.
Reduce the heat to 350.Bake the pie in the middle of the oven for 15 minutes,transfer to a pie rack[which for me is the top of my gas burner.
Let the pie cool completely,I mean at least an hour.
In a well chilled bowl that youve had in the freezer,beat the whipped crem untill it holds almost stiff peaks.(Actually, the thought of eating this is giving me a stiff peak.LOL)Sift the confec.sugar in it until it holds almost stiff peaks.
Put on to top of the pie with a spatula.Chill in the refrig.about an hour.
* My second little touch.Ill grind some real lime,put in a bowl,add a couple of tsp.of key lime juice or more if needed.Mix it up with some sugar.Put it out on a cookie sheet lined with foil and use that as a topping on the whipped cream.It looks pretty and its kind of like a candied lime pieces.
TIMS KEY LIME PIE
You have to get the right Key lime Juice.It is not green.Whole Foods are a speciality food store that will carry it.If you can find some real key limes,then you can juice them.Thats a bit tedious but this is just another little element that will make you the "Queen of the Day".You can usually find the juice.Make sure its from Florida or Persia.
First-
Make your crust.I do a pate brisee.Its gives it a butery type of a crust.
Heres how to make the dough.If you have a cuisinart use the pastry blade.
1 1/4 cups of all purpose flour
3/4 stick of real unsalted butter cold,cut into bits
2 tblsp cold veg shortening
1/4tsp salt
3 tblsp ice water
In a large bowl blend with your finger tipd the flour,butter,veg shortening and salt until the mixture resembles meal.
Add the ice water,toss the mixture until the water is incorporated and form into a ball.
Lightly knead the ball,with the heal of the hand a few seconds to distribute the fat and form back into a ball,Dust the dough with flowe,wrap it in wax paper and chill for 2-3 hours.
Pre heat oven to 400.Press the dough into a 9" pie pan and leave a 1/2 " over hang.You dont rolll out the dough.Thats nice.
Crimp the edges decoratively.Prick the bottom with a fork. and chill the shell for 30 minutes
Take out shell,roll out wax paper and weight it down with raw rice or raw beans.
Put in the lower third of the oven and bake for 10 minutes
Take out,remove the wax paper and rice or beans,and bake for another 10-15 minutes more until it is lightly colored.Transfer to a rack,and let it cool.
Make the Filing-
3 egg yolks
1/2 cup of frshly squeezed or bottled Key lime juice.I would definitely try to find real key limes
1 lemon and one regular lime.
1 cup chilled heavy whipped cream
one 15oz.can sweetened condensed
3 tblsps. of confectionary sugar
In a bowl mix the egg yolks until light and lemon colored
Add the lime juice and some lime rind., 1 teaspooon.
Beat in the condensed milk
*Now....here comes my little secret.I will add one extra egg yolk,they call for 3 but I put in 4.I will put in the 1/2 cup of freshly squeezed key lime juice but then I will add 4tblsp of fresly squeezed lemon juice.I will mtch that with about 3 more tblsp of codensed milk.
Pour this custard into the cooled crust.
Reduce the heat to 350.Bake the pie in the middle of the oven for 15 minutes,transfer to a pie rack[which for me is the top of my gas burner.
Let the pie cool completely,I mean at least an hour.
In a well chilled bowl that youve had in the freezer,beat the whipped crem untill it holds almost stiff peaks.(Actually, the thought of eating this is giving me a stiff peak.LOL)Sift the confec.sugar in it until it holds almost stiff peaks.
Put on to top of the pie with a spatula.Chill in the refrig.about an hour.
* My second little touch.Ill grind some real lime,put in a bowl,add a couple of tsp.of key lime juice or more if needed.Mix it up with some sugar.Put it out on a cookie sheet lined with foil and use that as a topping on the whipped cream.It looks pretty and its kind of like a candied lime pieces.
Dear :Lovebird,
I never said the material was copyrighted, I said: "it is not netiquettely acceptable." In other words, copying and pasting things that are read on other recovery boards is not very polite. Even if it is not copyrighted, they are someone elses words and out of respect for the managers of that board, it would be have been nice if you have asked before you copied it. But, I neglected to thank you for not taking credit for the words yourself. Thank you Lovebird.
mdp1954
I never said the material was copyrighted, I said: "it is not netiquettely acceptable." In other words, copying and pasting things that are read on other recovery boards is not very polite. Even if it is not copyrighted, they are someone elses words and out of respect for the managers of that board, it would be have been nice if you have asked before you copied it. But, I neglected to thank you for not taking credit for the words yourself. Thank you Lovebird.
mdp1954
